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null sec should get more conflict (yes another one)
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brutalbutneutral
Prepare To Meet Thy Doom
#1 - 2013-04-16 13:01:31 UTC
Look at the north/west for instance. Only carebears live in those places. LAWN, SMA, TNT, FCON, TEST, GOONS, -FA-, .EXE. There only getting fat in there carebearing regions.

It is still beyond my understanding why you would want an all out jerk fest blueing each other. Where's the honour in that. Isn't it getting boring. Or is eve only about isk these days and not about fun. Cry

Please CCP , please let the summer expansion have a sov overhaul where even smaller corps can get sov so having sov is fun again. Make it something worth fighting for.

Now please let the troles out.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2 - 2013-04-16 13:10:32 UTC
brutalbutneutral wrote:
Please CCP.

Do it yourself.

Oh god.
Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-04-16 13:12:24 UTC
"CFC isn't getting enough attention. someone make an alt and troll GD"

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.
terzho
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-04-16 13:14:03 UTC
brutalbutneutral wrote:
Where's the honour in that.


lol
Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-04-16 13:15:17 UTC
You had two opportunities to use 'they're', 'their', or 'there'. You chose 'there' both times and were wrong both times.

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Dave Stark
#6 - 2013-04-16 13:16:12 UTC
brutalbutneutral wrote:
There only getting fat in there carebearing regions.
brutalbutneutral wrote:
Make it something worth fighting for.


ladies and gentlemen, i present to you a contradiction.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#7 - 2013-04-16 13:20:55 UTC
OP lives in some alternate Eve-universe I've not seen. GSF alone is on 20,000 killmails a month, but you know, it's all about ratting for blue donuts or whatever the daily meme is.

Sov war sucks balls, and if your only definition of "non boring" is sov war, then you'll probably be "bored" a long time. Meanwhile, anyone actually involved and not just watching from the sidelines is having a pretty good time.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-04-16 13:22:32 UTC
i'm too horrible to form a group large and cohesive enough to challenge somebody for their sov

why doesn't CCP hold my hand in the process

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Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-04-16 13:38:33 UTC
Andski wrote:
i'm too horrible to form a group large and cohesive enough to challenge somebody for their sov

why doesn't CCP hold my hand in the process

Although your point makes sense, you know well enough that the way things are currently there is no way to really challenge the sov of the power bocs.

It's why HBC didn't go after you, unless it's all about the tech after all...

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-04-16 13:43:12 UTC
sure there is

do it the exact same way we've taken swathes of space from our enemies in the past

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-04-16 13:49:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
i mean it's entirely possible to take sov from large powerblocs but nobody wants to do it because they don't want to do what every successful group in 0.0 has managed to do and form a large cohesive group

because they lack the ability to organize and lead they just whine to CCP to make large groups less relevant, since you know, anyone can form a large group because it's so easy so why bother?

yet with the apparent ease of forming a large group they don't wish to do that and take sov from anyone because it's not easy to form a large group as it turns out

the excuse du jour is "they have too much tech income!!!!!!!" but there are historical cases of blocs with much less income challenging blocs with much more income and successfully taking their sovereignty

guess there's really no excuses left!

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Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-04-16 13:59:53 UTC
I would love to form a massive corp and take the sov from goons or test... (Or the more likely, die horribly trying). It would be a laugh and rather fun, for both parties involved.

Only problem I have is im so new that a) I dont have the skills to fly anything bigger than a cruiser just yet (so taking sov in a cruiser would just be plain hilarious when I get hotdropped by super caps) and b) no one who can fly super caps, to rival the goons, will take orders from a noob (even though they dont mobilise themselves to do it).

I can imagine the goons or test would be up for a good scrap, because they've probably (note I say probably) got bored of no one really challangeing them...

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#13 - 2013-04-16 14:05:31 UTC
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
I would love to form a massive corp and take the sov from goons or test... (Or the more likely, die horribly trying). It would be a laugh and rather fun, for both parties involved.

Only problem I have is im so new that a) I dont have the skills to fly anything bigger than a cruiser just yet (so taking sov in a cruiser would just be plain hilarious when I get hotdropped by super caps) and b) no one who can fly super caps, to rival the goons, will take orders from a noob (even though they dont mobilise themselves to do it).

I can imagine the goons or test would be up for a good scrap, because they've probably (note I say probably) got bored of no one really challangeing them...


So where do you get your information about the state of 0.0 from?

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-04-16 14:15:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Resource "redistribution" coming up... maybe that will shake things up.

Or not.

Either way, OP... you need to undock first. P

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Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-04-16 14:24:36 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
I would love to form a massive corp and take the sov from goons or test... (Or the more likely, die horribly trying). It would be a laugh and rather fun, for both parties involved.

Only problem I have is im so new that a) I dont have the skills to fly anything bigger than a cruiser just yet (so taking sov in a cruiser would just be plain hilarious when I get hotdropped by super caps) and b) no one who can fly super caps, to rival the goons, will take orders from a noob (even though they dont mobilise themselves to do it).

I can imagine the goons or test would be up for a good scrap, because they've probably (note I say probably) got bored of no one really challangeing them...


So where do you get your information about the state of 0.0 from?


I'm sorry, I dont follow What?

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#16 - 2013-04-16 14:25:01 UTC
brutalbutneutral wrote:
Or is eve only about isk these days and not about fun. Cry


But isk IS fun.


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Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-04-16 14:28:12 UTC
brutalbutneutral wrote:

It is still beyond my understanding why you would want an all out jerk fest blueing each other. Where's the honour in that. Isn't it getting boring. Or is eve only about isk these days and not about fun. Cry

Please CCP , please let the summer expansion have a sov overhaul where even smaller corps can get sov so having sov is fun again. Make it something worth fighting for.

Now please let the troles out.

If you don't like what you see in 0.0 and think that it is terrible go in and change it.

Get a group of people together you could call them a corporation perhaps and then work with other like minded groups perhaps we could call that an Alliance. Then, as this thing we're calling an Alliance go and invade.

If you cannot do that for whatever reason you could just fly around in that "safe" region of space and create some chaos. Go ahead. All that is there, according to you, are carebears who are getting 'fat.'

Smaller corporations -can- get Sov if they are willing to try. The problem very few are wiling to make the attempt so the situation remains the same but that isn't CCP's fault it's the players involved. Personally, I don't mind it since there is a LOT of effort and work that goes in to maintaining the Alliances involved.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-04-16 14:41:16 UTC
Andski wrote:
sure there is

do it the exact same way we've taken swathes of space from our enemies in the past


That would require :effort: so it will not happen.

Give me my region for free! I am a paying costomer so I deserve it!
YuuKnow
The Scope
#19 - 2013-04-16 14:43:29 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Well, from human history conflicts are usually either spurred by economic reasons, religous reasons, resource scarcity, or plays for power. Lets look at these

1. Economic reasons: nope, the regions provide plenty for all, enough to fund hundreds of billions in super caps. No economic incentive/gain for war, just losses really
2. Religous reasons: doesn't apply to eve
3. Resource Scarcity: nope, resources self-regenerate quickly in Eve
4. Plays for power: not in the alliances so I don't know the ambition levels.

If CCP were to want to mix it up then they should look at mixing up one or two of the above. From the Odysessy notes it looks like its on the list to be addressed hopefully.

yk
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-04-16 14:52:02 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
1. Economic reasons: nope, the regions provide plenty for all, enough to fund hundreds of billions in super caps. No economic incentive/gain for war, just losses really


No they don't, most of 0.0 is worthless except for the north and parts of the southwest

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