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BREAKING: Boston Marathon rocked

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Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-04-16 01:57:11 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Anya Klibor wrote:
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
Kw1jybo wrote:
Saudi individual in custody, termed a 'suspect'.

As a former Marine, Semper Fi, stay safe, and go get 'em.


Police have said this is false and that they have no one in custody.


2046 EST: Police are questioning a suspect.

[Update, 8:55 p.m. ET] A Saudi national with a leg wound was under guard at a Boston hospital in connection with the bombings at the Boston Marathon, but investigators cannot say he is involved at this time and he is not in custody, a law enforcement official said Monday evening.




Translation: We don't want this Saudi dude getting a biggot-attack.
Bear in mind that the Boston Marathon is a world-wide attraction. This famous race draws runners from everywhere on the globe. I'm willing to bet there were North Koreans and Iranians running.



Edit: Death toll now at three, inculding an eight-year-old child. Emergency surgeons are reporting ball bearings in wounds.


What news org. are you getting this from? Everything I'm reading says otherwise.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#42 - 2013-04-16 02:05:49 UTC
CCN's 'This Just In' blog.

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-04-16 02:06:44 UTC
just watch it for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtnMS3bb_O8

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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-04-16 02:56:46 UTC
There's a lot of hatred being sent towards the Boston Police Department, Massachusetts National Guard, and the state government concerning the "lack" of security present. As a "first responder", I will say that the response from all the police, medics, and National Guard present was excellent. I am proud of how they reacted, and their willingness to run headfirst into that danger.

Two bombs detonated. We all ran in, not knowing if a third would go, or a fourth. We put our lives on the line, hoping we could save more. The gamble was worth it. Three deaths, and it could have been worse given the congestion.

No matter how people phrase it, it's still going to be remarkable either way. Thank your local police, firefighters and paramedics daily for their willingness to sacrifice themselves so you can live, ladies and gents.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-04-16 03:05:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Stegas Tyrano
Do they expect an army of policemen to attend every public event?

Sounds like you have an abundance of armchair expert analysts in the US.

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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-04-16 03:09:15 UTC
There's a lot of people claiming that this should never have happened, that intelligence should have been better. They wonder how one person could do this, when in reality there were probably multiple perps. It's Call of Duty warriors telling us how to do stuff they don't understand.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-04-16 03:13:51 UTC
Anya Klibor wrote:
There's a lot of people claiming that this should never have happened, that intelligence should have been better. They wonder how one person could do this, when in reality there were probably multiple perps. It's Call of Duty warriors telling us how to do stuff they don't understand.


Multiple perps who also look nothing like your media reinforced stereotypical terrorist.

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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-04-16 03:17:20 UTC
More than likely. I won't throw away possibilities; it's possible this could be a white supremacist as much as it could be a North Korean operative.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#49 - 2013-04-16 03:18:01 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
Do they expect an army of policemen to attend every public event?

Sounds like you have an abundance of armchair expert analysts in the US.
Yes and yes.

Certain political, social,and media forces have sold a bill of goods to the Common Man that there should be no risk, that if they were willing to grant certain powers to the government, that all would be made safe and cozy.

When reality intrudes, as it always does, those same Common Men first blame the government, only to be told that they hadn't yet surrendered *enough* power to the government, and it will only need just a liiiiitle bit more of their power and freedom to make everything safe again. It's called 'Security Theater' and this country has some of the worlds formost actors in that theater of the absurd.

It's not the Left only, nor the Right only. People who wish to control the lives of others can be found in each camp. Indeed, the camps are sick mirrors of each other. All this enabled by the fact that the American 'Common Man' is a lazy swine, politically-speaking. So long as his slops trough is full, he will continue to await the day when public servants become the masters.

Anya Klibor wrote:
There's a lot of people claiming that this should never have happened, that intelligence should have been better. They wonder how one person could do this, when in reality there were probably multiple perps. It's Call of Duty warriors telling us how to do stuff they don't understand.

Multiple or single, organized or lone-wolf - the average citizen doesn't know enough to wipe his backside when it comes to security OR investigation. They want everything to be a TV show or movie, with magic all-seeing eyes and forensics. And they want everything wrapped-up and done in under ninety minutes so they don't have to miss their favorite 'reality' show.

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Jaq Royale
Royale Strategic Imperative
#50 - 2013-04-16 05:55:50 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:


Thank you for the video.
I wonder how long it will be before the blame game starts.
My guess: 72 hours.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2013-04-16 06:52:45 UTC
Anya Klibor wrote:
There's a lot of people claiming that this should never have happened, that intelligence should have been better. They wonder how one person could do this, when in reality there were probably multiple perps. It's Call of Duty warriors telling us how to do stuff they don't understand.


As the IRA said, we only need to get lucky once.
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#52 - 2013-04-16 08:33:44 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


How big is a grenade?


grenades produce very little smoke, very little flame. that was much bigger than a grenade
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-04-16 09:28:24 UTC
Anya Klibor wrote:
There's a lot of people claiming that this should never have happened, that intelligence should have been better. They wonder how one person could do this, when in reality there were probably multiple perps. It's Call of Duty warriors telling us how to do stuff they don't understand.


These people are always the most isolated or insular in society i find. The same with most armchair hotshots.

Truly FDR was right when he said the only thing to fear is fear itself. 3 people dead is very low and a credit to the responders. How many people in boston were killed yesterday in car accidents?

Of course as Silens said a little bit more freedom will be sacrificed for security and its sad.

I live in a country that has been wracked by terrorism with suicide bombings but really it didnt change our lives. I wasnt here in the bad days of the early 2000s when buses and restaurants were exploding but the people managed to develop a strong skin and change their thinking that made most people very realistic.

Americas relative national naivety is both a great asset and a negative as then people go nuts over things like this and dont see themselves spiting themselves.

Honestly id like to take every armchair patton and give them a rifle and see how it feels to have a cold hard dose of reality.

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#54 - 2013-04-16 09:39:11 UTC
Sup Graygor~!

//I'm gonna log in and fly around, and pretend this never happened.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#55 - 2013-04-16 10:05:52 UTC
3 this time, I daresay the perps are underachievers compared to 9/11.

Why bother cowering in fear when you can continue as usual with a spot of common sense in hand. I always thought our response to terrorism was the wrong direction, by all means tighten security but ceding over lumps of rights for safety? Whose safety, seems like our MP's used a chunk of that safety over the expenses issue.

The bomber will always get through.

Boston o7

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2013-04-16 10:12:41 UTC
Exactly. Dont bow down to terror and dont let fear run your life.

My mrs when she was in school missed her bus which was blown apart by a suicide bomber. You cant live in fear the whole time as that isnt living.

Life is short, enjoy it and live it well and dont worry about these kinds of things.

That said, reasonable precautions and common sense are a must. But its a fine line when emotions are running high like now.

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#57 - 2013-04-16 10:23:55 UTC
Aye, come together in defiance of this. Unfortunately many more seem to be adamant to blame those protecting them more than the perps themselves.

Civic duties noted to be learned from in this : First Aid is something that should be taught in schools and need to find a class for myself... Only 3 dead, that ladies and gentlemen is what happens when competent medical assistance is sitting right ontop of a terrorist attack.

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#58 - 2013-04-16 11:24:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
resembled a movie explosion, disturbingly. though it wasn't--wet fuel explosions burn black smoke

I hope first responders and bystanders receive counseling

i still haven't watched further videos. nope

I left the military after I discovered on my third deployment that I didn't want to do it anymore,
and the only reason to keep my head in the game was for my platoon. that's when I understood
people deserve the choice of putting themselves in harm's way.

I feel so lopsided right now
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#59 - 2013-04-16 11:54:03 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Graygor, I wish I could give your posts in this thread more +1s.... Well said. Kirjava & Rain6639, likewise.
Indeed, well done to all for remaining civil and thoughtful.


I was raised by a warrior and soldier. I learned that life isn't safe, but that it has to be lived anyway. So many have been protected so thoroughly that they've lost all contact with reality - Success leading to failure. It's long past time to take the padding off, and allow people to get bruised and bloodied as they grow up.

I was pretty sure those bombs were low-explosive, and news trickling out seems to confirm. This was a very efficient attack, if the intent was to create maximum fear from minimum resources expended. Targeting could hardly have been better, and if you mean to spread fear, body count is far less important that maximum pain and horror. Multiple devices are reported to have failed, not unexpectedly - home-brew bombs tend to be very unreliable. This could've been radically worse, and now we've got hard evidence.

Someone, or some people had best dig themselves a deep hole, and pull it in after themselves. Boston is a city that doesn't forget, and there's an awful lot of concentrated vengeance coming...

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#60 - 2013-04-16 11:58:13 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


How big is a grenade?


grenades produce very little smoke, very little flame. that was much bigger than a grenade

Bigger, but with a lower burn rate. Pipe bomb probably, about the size of a 16 or 24oz soda can, if my mis-spent youth can be relied upon. Gunpowder or ANFO, or some similar homebrew.

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