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Am I too stupid to play EVE?

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Shane Saken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-04-15 19:20:06 UTC
Stonkeep wrote:
btw, I sent you 50mil to help you start over. Good luck.


And its players like this that give us noobs a fighting chance that has such a intense learning curve.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#22 - 2013-04-15 19:21:56 UTC
I almost quit at 3 months because all I seemed to be able to do was get my butt kicked over and over again. 7 years later I still get my butt kicked over and over again... I've just found a way to make a living at it.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-04-15 19:24:41 UTC
Many off us started like you and many of those still are playing.
I even have fun losing a lot off isk in a way that's new to me....
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#24 - 2013-04-15 19:30:03 UTC
Rocketfeller wrote:
I seriously need to know if EVE is beyond my capabilities. I have been playing for several hours each week for three months now, and I currently have almost nothing to show for it. I am trying to find my niche in the game, but so far the only thing I am good at is losing. I do want to like the game, but I can't help thinking that I am "doing it wrong" and I'm not so sure I can be cured.

How long does it generally take to get the hang of the game?



When it clicks, it clicks. And don't worry - some outstandingly stupid people in EVE seem to thrive well enough.

Really, it's not so much about intelligence as attitude.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#25 - 2013-04-15 19:32:35 UTC
Rocketfeller wrote:


All criticism is accepted. Constructive criticism is appreciated.


EVE is all about life lessons. You know those stupid boring cliche bits of advice that old people like to give out? "If it looks too good to be true it is", "Everyone's got an angle", "Follow the money", etc etc.

Well in EVE they're all true.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#26 - 2013-04-15 19:34:07 UTC
As a new player, knowledge about how Eve's systems work is far more valuable than any amount of isk you can reasonably make as a new player.

I know it sucks to lose 50m when that's all that's in your wallet, or even 500m as a month old player, but in time these losses will be meaningless. I've lost everything I had 3 times: once due to a pirate, once due to an IPO scam, and once due to not playing for 6 months and buying plex. But now, I can make a loss on a trade valued at 10x those losses, and it's no big deal. Granted, I've been playing since 2005, but you'll soon find that your experience will start to give you a momentum that can't be stopped by petty scams and gankers. Eventually you will have multiple accounts to PVE with, corp/personal connections to easy income, trading knowledge, etc. As a new player, just focus on learning the game, and try not to worry about isk too much ;)

Now, if you said that you were just grinding lvl 3/4 missions, I wouldn't have bothered to write this, but each time you took a hit you tried out a new system (mining, trading, etc). That's how a true Eve player approaches the game, and playing this way means that adversity will only make you a more capable player in the end.
Rocketfeller
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-04-15 19:39:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Rocketfeller
Stonkeep wrote:
...btw, I sent you 50mil to help you start over. Good luck.


Thanks very much - I'm grateful.

I hope it didn't sound like I was asking for handouts - I really wasn't. I try to be self-reliant (and I know that can be a fault sometimes, and that joining a corp as suggested would be a better idea than trying to go it alone). But I'll do my best to make your contribution grow and eventually pass it on to another newbie down the line.

New lesson for me: Not everyone in EVE means me harm, at least not ALL the time...
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#28 - 2013-04-15 19:42:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Losing everything you have hurts, but the OP has the right attitude. He's gotten back up and tried again, that puts him way ahead of the curve when it comes to newbies.

Eve hooked me on my 4th trial, Apocrypha had a lot to do with me getting it. I've weathered a Ponzi Scheme and a margin trading scam (my first billion, decimated to 250mill) so far, respect is due to the scammers though, the ponzi was very professionally done, and the margin trading scam relies on your greed.

edit - I see you've been introduced to pay it forward, keep the faith. Many a newbie gets their start from that, myself included.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#29 - 2013-04-15 19:56:40 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Nah.

The fact that you're questioning yourself instead of blaming the game for failing to babysit you already puts you miles ahead of most people.

You probably just need to find some friends who can give you a little bit of advice about some of the less intuitive aspects of the game.


So much this.
Harbonah
Short Bus Window Licker
#30 - 2013-04-15 20:02:30 UTC
Rocketfeller wrote:
Stonkeep wrote:
...btw, I sent you 50mil to help you start over. Good luck.


Thanks very much - I'm grateful.

I hope it didn't sound like I was asking for handouts - I really wasn't. I try to be self-reliant (and I know that can be a fault sometimes, and that joining a corp as suggested would be a better idea than trying to go it alone). But I'll do my best to make your contribution grow and eventually pass it on to another newbie down the line.

New lesson for me: Not everyone in EVE means me harm, at least not ALL the time...


I've contracted you a Covetor mining vessel. Sell it or use it, makes no difference to me. It's sitting in my hanger gathering dust and I'm tired of staring at it. Sometimes.... it stares back at me Twisted
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#31 - 2013-04-15 20:05:09 UTC
Rule number 1 of bankroll management. Never risk your whole wad.
Harbonah
Short Bus Window Licker
#32 - 2013-04-15 20:07:40 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Rule number 1 of bankroll management. Never risk your whole wad.


I thought that was a rule when going down to the local strip club?
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#33 - 2013-04-15 20:10:03 UTC
Harbonah wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Rule number 1 of bankroll management. Never risk your whole wad.


I thought that was a rule when going down to the local strip club?

No, that's Rule #18: "Never bring your wad to the strip club if your buddy doesn't have one of his own."

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Rocketfeller
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-04-15 20:11:51 UTC
Harbonah wrote:
I've contracted you a Covetor mining vessel. Sell it or use it, makes no difference to me. It's sitting in my hanger gathering dust and I'm tired of staring at it. Sometimes.... it stares back at me Twisted


Thank you very much. I'll try to keep it in one piece!
Daimon Kaiera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-04-15 20:13:02 UTC
Every time I try a new aspect of Eve that I've never done before, it's almost like starting an entirely new game. In short, you will never get "used" to the game - just certain parts of it.





Also, this thread could be a nice way of, since I've seen you have gotton 50m from someone, some free isk out of simply having a good writing/lying skill. Hell, I felt like doing it too.

But I'm not.

Because I just thought of the above.

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Harbonah
Short Bus Window Licker
#36 - 2013-04-15 20:14:20 UTC
The system its sitting in is calmer.... for mining. Keep your eyes open and you should do fine if you decide to take up residence there.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#37 - 2013-04-15 20:14:21 UTC
Harbonah wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Rule number 1 of bankroll management. Never risk your whole wad.


I thought that was a rule when going down to the local strip club?


Yea its one to remember when ccp give us Stripping in Stations
Rocketfeller
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2013-04-15 20:23:15 UTC
Daimon Kaiera wrote:
...Also, this thread could be a nice way of, since I've seen you have gotton 50m from someone, some free isk out of simply having a good writing/lying skill. Hell, I felt like doing it too...

When I got scammed and found out it was more-or-less CCP sanctioned (even encouraged by market mechanics) I considered learning how to do the scam and trying to use it on someone else. And I don't say that scammers shouldn't be allowed to play, since I get that EVE needs to remain dangerous in lots of ways. But that just isn't me. I hope the generosity shown here doesn't lead to a bunch of threads created for the purpose. Of course it's Eve, so...
Dave Stark
#39 - 2013-04-15 20:24:48 UTC
Rocketfeller wrote:
Daimon Kaiera wrote:
...Also, this thread could be a nice way of, since I've seen you have gotton 50m from someone, some free isk out of simply having a good writing/lying skill. Hell, I felt like doing it too...

When I got scammed and found out it was more-or-less CCP sanctioned (even encouraged by market mechanics) I considered learning how to do the scam and trying to use it on someone else. And I don't say that scammers shouldn't be allowed to play, since I get that EVE needs to remain dangerous in lots of ways. But that just isn't me. I hope the generosity shown here doesn't lead to a bunch of threads created for the purpose. Of course it's Eve, so...


50mil and such sums are generally trivial amounts for older players. often it's worth potentially throwing money to a scam if it has a potential of helping a new player with a good attitude.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#40 - 2013-04-15 20:32:06 UTC
3 months into the game I was trying to do level 3 missions in a badly fitted blackbird.