Warfare & Tactics

Oh god, there's so much to answer and my english is submediocre. However I'll try.

First and foremost, I am more than aware this is not an argument I can win in a topic on the unofficial FW forums. Most people posting here are in FW and they are in FW for a damn good reason, they want the instant action and carefree style that it brings. So, definitely not trying to win the argument, rather trying to voice a different opinion, and after spending the last three and a half years in FW, I'd like to kid myself that I have at least a vague clue.


Let's start with "drama !=content" . For a lot of people drama fuels the reasons to go out there and pew the living **** out of eachother. I hate to use what is already an overused word, but it provides the narrative. Why do you think that when we took all systems, Ladi had the biggest attendence, had people staying up in the middle of the night, etc ? Sure, partly because it was the last system, but also partly because all the drama and forum sperg over the years created a lot of bad blood and people wanted to see any incarnation of PERVS evicted.


Not everyone finds some mediocre CCP lore reason enough to take part. Surprisingly not everyone finds BC stats reason enough to take part. So this is what drama does, refines in to narrative and gives people a reason to take part. Hell, look at null, there's very little drama left, everyone is buddy buddy with everyone else for years. Result ? No more grudges, no more fights, bar the odd russians who aren't friends with eveyone else due to the language and cultural barrier.

Without the context, Eve is a mediocre PVP game, outdated graphics, a terribad UI and (less now) massively unbalanced ****. A lot of people, I'd dare say the majority, are playing it for the social experiment, the player driven narrative. Without that, might aswell play Crysis 3 or any other game that has awesome graphics and instant action.


As for the Rakapas siege, sure more fights would've been fun for the 20 of us spinning buttons and watching paint dry. However, taking Raka fast, then beeing able to move further and take all the systems created enjoyment for a lot more people. There's hundreds of people now proud they took part in an event that only happened twice in the history of FW. Should we have thrown that away just because you, me and a few others wanted to kill a 20 more dessies ? Which brings me to the next point.

Our supposedly different definitions of fun. Sure, we do see some things differently, but it's not only that. I find it hard to make the next argument without it seeming like an attack, so I'll just have to rely on the fact that you know I respect you and your opinions. But, to the point.

Selfishness. From an individual's perspective, no one, not even me, will argue that constant round the clock pvp is more fun. However, as I was pointing out to the previous paragraph, once you have assumed a leadership position, be it formal or informal, you have made a commitement to people to also facilitate their fun in game, otherwise they stop logging in. Accepting leadership resposability and then thinking only about your fun is the perfect way to end up with a bunch of inactives.

And last but not least, I can't agree with your staement that nullsec should be for this, lowsec for the other, etc. If people like us want to engage in BS fights in low, well, why not, and conversely, if you want to go roam in a caracal in sovspace, who am I to say no ? The ideea of progression trough PVE highsec > small gang lowsec > large fights and politics in nullsec is so unimagginative and opposed to a sandbox that it makes me cringe.

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