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Deopheel Dalonne
Eridu Productions
#1 - 2011-10-17 13:15:37 UTC
Goons like to identify with the IIIrd Reich ("GoonWaffe" and also the uniforms of certain goons like Andski and others).
Goons like to identify with islamic terrorism (Jihad, Osama bin Laden in a recent Mittani post)
Mitanni likes to compare himself to Stalin (same post as above).

Ok, this is a game. But there is a limit. Once it is crossed, it just becomes distasetful.

Look at this quote, for example:
The Mittani wrote:
Pay no attention to this kulak and his revisionist line; the People's Soviets of Goonswarm have a free and open accounting of their finances, and our socialist science has brough about the closest realization of socialism ever seen in EVE.

This is really not funny. When "kulaks" were targeted by the soviets in Ukraine in the 1930s, millions died in a state-induced artificial famine.

Do we really want to play alongside individual who consider such dreadful memories as toys to have fun with ?

Does CCP want to have such people as customers ?
BLACK-STAR
#2 - 2011-10-17 13:18:02 UTC
lol, man, Waffe is Weapon in german.

stop with these terrible, distasteful threads.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#3 - 2011-10-17 13:19:27 UTC
Must have lost a Hulk...
**** off... Troll Elsewhere

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Bosquit
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#4 - 2011-10-17 13:19:47 UTC
Deopheel Dalonne wrote:
Goons like to identify with the IIIrd Reich ("GoonWaffe" and also the uniforms of certain goons like Andski and others).
Goons like to identify with islamic terrorism (Jihad, Osama bin Laden in a recent Mittani post)
Mitanni likes to compare himself to Stalin (same post as above).

Ok, this is a game. But there is a limit. Once it is crossed, it just becomes distasetful.

Look at this quote, for example:
The Mittani wrote:
Pay no attention to this kulak and his revisionist line; the People's Soviets of Goonswarm have a free and open accounting of their finances, and our socialist science has brough about the closest realization of socialism ever seen in EVE.

This is really not funny. When "kulaks" were targeted by the soviets in Ukraine in the 1930s, millions died in a state-induced artificial famine.

Do we really want to play alongside individual who consider such dreadful memories as toys to have fun with ?

Does CCP want to have such people as customers ?


I don't like or dislike the goons but honestly do you really think that when people say these things that it's a personal attack on those who died, no. Lighten up, people like you are those that give groups like the anti-defamation league it's power.

"Insert Philosophical Statement Here"
Jokerface666
Intergalactic Expeditionary Corp
#5 - 2011-10-17 13:22:45 UTC
i don't like the goons, but i don't like you even moar, so i told you already, GTFO, and leave our game alone!
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-10-17 13:24:04 UTC
So he's like Stalin, a paranoid psychopath but in interner spaceships and trolls people who insult him. The thing about goons is the more reaction and attention you give them the more they enjoy baiting and trolling. Your post by its very nature feeds the goin fire, as do all the other goon posts on these forums.
Katsumi Kaminari
#7 - 2011-10-17 13:27:33 UTC
So what do you propose then? Ban Goonwaffe's 1st Amendment rights all in the name of being tasteful? Who's the fascist now?

In blossom today, then scattered: Life is so like a delicate flower. How can one expect the fragrance To last forever? - Vice Admiral Ohnishi, Kamikaze Special Attack Force
Hershman
Creepers Corporation
#8 - 2011-10-17 13:35:39 UTC
No, you don't understand. If they can offend, upset or anger you then it is an overglorified act of victory to them.

See... going over the line internet woo-ha is how some nerds get their whoopies. It makes goons look into themselves and find a smirk, a bright period of reckoning resembling the contrast they feel in their day to day lives.

This kind of joy is cultivated through years of scarce social interaction.

So let them have their fun. It's ok.

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Baphommet
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-10-17 13:48:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Baphommet
I f'n love the goons. I think they're hilarious.

References to negative historical events is a good thing. It makes reading more fun, makes interesting parallels and gives us tears of over-sensitive people like you.

It's not like you can feel threatened in any way by Mittens, he's just some well versed internet spaceship nerd.

edit: And if you're upset over a loss from them, learn to lose ships.

.
Prencleeve Grothsmore
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-10-17 13:50:21 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS

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Deopheel Dalonne
Eridu Productions
#11 - 2011-10-17 13:52:32 UTC
Hershman wrote:
No, you don't understand. If they can offend, upset or anger you then it is an overglorified act of victory to them.

I know.

Hershman wrote:
So let them have their fun. It's ok.

No, beyond a certain threshold, such things are not to be tolerated. And the goons are way past it.

Whether or not it pleases them, something should be done about it. More explicitly, CCP should ban them. Both from the game and the forums. You just cannot have fun with certain things.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2011-10-17 13:56:57 UTC
Lol Humour.

Also, OP, you should probably read a bit closer who is calling whom what.
Proser Pino
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2011-10-17 13:59:15 UTC
Prencleeve Grothsmore wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS


if you have no clue what waffe or german words in general mean, dont speak about it. we used to have a WEHRmacht and currently a feuerWEHR. what does it mean? our fire service is full of nazis?...
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-10-17 14:00:29 UTC
Katsumi Kaminari wrote:
So what do you propose then? Ban Goonwaffe's 1st Amendment rights all in the name of being tasteful? Who's the fascist now?


Im pretty sure your amendments mean feckk all in Iceland

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Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-10-17 14:02:51 UTC
Deopheel Dalonne wrote:
No, beyond a certain threshold, such things are not to be tolerated. And the goons are way past it.

Whether or not it pleases them, something should be done about it. More explicitly, CCP should ban them. Both from the game and the forums. You just cannot have fun with certain things.


Did you scientifically formulate your avatar for maximum derpface? Seriously, I just want to reach through my monitor and slap the ever-loving crap out of it. It's delicious.

Oh, wait, sorry, I forgot, this is a "Goons are big ol' meanie heads thread." Fascist flavor, apparently. So er, I mean... I wish to send your avatar to a Siberian mine to live out the rest of it's days. Am I doing it right?

Harden the **** Up, kiddo. You're not going to get rid of a 7000+ member alliance because we have a tendency to spout off ironic propaganda based on people in other threads calling us Hitler, Stalin, etc etc.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#16 - 2011-10-17 14:05:46 UTC
Its people like the OP who make it so the 'N' word is dubbed out of the film 'Blazing Saddles' when its shown on American TV.

Wholesale uproar because they dont understand something like satire or sarcasm.

You just sound like a massive butthurt prat who had his hulk touched in an innopropriate place.... Grow UP!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Katsumi Kaminari
#17 - 2011-10-17 14:09:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Katsumi Kaminari
Skippermonkey wrote:
Katsumi Kaminari wrote:
So what do you propose then? Ban Goonwaffe's 1st Amendment rights all in the name of being tasteful? Who's the fascist now?


Im pretty sure your amendments mean feckk all in Iceland


Okay smart guy, here you go. Iceland plans future as global haven for freedom of speech.

In another note, where in the EULA does it state that you cannot offend anyone? Hmmmmm......

In blossom today, then scattered: Life is so like a delicate flower. How can one expect the fragrance To last forever? - Vice Admiral Ohnishi, Kamikaze Special Attack Force
thoth rothschild
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-10-17 14:12:07 UTC  |  Edited by: thoth rothschild
The german language is a so called "toolkit language"

What does that mean.
The Lnaguage itself has a very limited amount of words ~ 300k
New Words and new Word meanings are created by combination of already existing words.
It is possible to concat nouns & adjectives & verbs in an endless amount to create new substantives.

This does not mean that a single word has a negative meaning. Maybe a certain combination of nouns / verbs has a terrible negative touch but the base nouns do not have one.

Donau-Dampf-schifffahrts-kapitäns-mützen-Abzeichen-Farbe...............

So Please, do not try to interpret the usage of a german noun without the knowledge of this language.
Jenn Makanen
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-10-17 14:21:19 UTC
Katsumi Kaminari wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
Katsumi Kaminari wrote:
So what do you propose then? Ban Goonwaffe's 1st Amendment rights all in the name of being tasteful? Who's the fascist now?


Im pretty sure your amendments mean feckk all in Iceland


Okay smart guy, here you go. Iceland plans future as global haven for freedom of speech.

In another note, where in the EULA does it state that you cannot offend anyone? Hmmmmm......



Heh. Of course, even if it were an american company, they could ban you from talking about whatever they felt like, all without infringing any rights. First Amendment rights, in regards to free speech, are between the Government and the People. Not the People and other people (or corporations. which are people in your country. Odd, I know.).

Too many people seem to think that the first amendment means they can say whatever they want, whereever they want, and no-one can tell them to shut up. The answer to that is BZZZT, try again.
Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
#20 - 2011-10-17 14:25:05 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Lol Humour.

Also, OP, you should probably read a bit closer who is calling whom what.


Humor? You think 2 - 8 million people dying of starvation is funny? That's really mature I must say.

Maybe I lack a sense of humor, but I don't find that humorous at all.

Stop the spamming, not the scamming!
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