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OFFER: 2 Billion ISK development grant for the Akimamur United effort.

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Vikarion
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-04-12 23:55:16 UTC
As has been noted here, the Akimamur United initiative has been suffering from a lack of skilled workers and automated technology.

As a Caldari Patriot, I am offering to provide, immediately, 2 Billion ISK to provide transportation, training, and technology to alleviate the difficulties in the Akimamur constellation. While I do not wish to attempt to guide the local authorities or the companies involved, I will note that 2 Billion ISK is a vast fortune in Republic credits, and could be used to provide those willing with the necessary training and equipment to set up and run the necessary facilities and utilities. Moreover, if the labor shortage proves chronic, I am also sure that there are many Republic citizens elsewhere who would be happy to take advantage of such employment opportunities if provided with the means to move.

All I request is a contact to transfer the ISK to. I make this offer without demand of anything in return.

Since I am Caldari, and I do not lie to those I offer aid to, I will give my reasons for this offer.

First, I appreciate those who try to build a better life for themselves in hostile environments. As one might imagine, this is close to my heart as a Caldari.

Second, I wish to improve relations between the Caldari State, and the Minmatar Republic, and trying to help without trying to tell them how to live seems like a good way to start.

Third, I really hope this puts a finger in the eye of some Amarr out there, who seem to think that the State is their personal pet, and that they can hire or fire us as they wish.

I am sure that there are those in the Republic who will react to this with mindless foaming at the mouth. To them, I would point out that ISK has no smell - to wit, no matter who it is coming from, this will improve the lot of the Minmatar (provided it doesn't get funneled elsewhere).

I await a response.

-Vikarion
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#2 - 2013-04-13 00:46:22 UTC
Interesting that you don't include any stipulations in your pledge. For instance... that the initiative submits itself to a Caldari authority who could provide auditing for the involved corporations, acting as administrators and to ensure that the funds are appropriately allocated.

Just a thought.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Vikarion
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-04-13 00:59:33 UTC
Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:
Interesting that you don't include any stipulations in your pledge. For instance... that the initiative submits itself to a Caldari authority who could provide auditing for the involved corporations, acting as administrators and to ensure that the funds are appropriately allocated.

Just a thought.


I'm quite willing to give the Republic the benefit of the doubt, at least, to begin with. That's part of the point, actually.

How would you respond to someone offering ISK to Caldari war refugees, but only if the party involved "submits itself to a Minmatar authority who could provide auditing for the involved corporations"?

No, unlike the Federation and the Empire, the State does not treat other nations as entities that we should, by rights, be able to dictate terms to. This is an offer of pure monetary assistance, without strings. If they misuse it, I simply will refuse to help them again.
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#4 - 2013-04-13 01:15:52 UTC
Vikarion wrote:

No, unlike the Federation and the Empire, the State does not treat other nations as entities that we should, by rights, be able to dictate terms to.


Not so fast there. The investors in such a case as this, should, by all rights, be able to dictate the terms of the investment.

I wasn't being in any way unreasonable, so lets avoid the underhanded jabs, eh? Your first sentence would have sufficed as an explanation.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#5 - 2013-04-13 05:05:39 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Third, I really hope this puts a finger in the eye of some Amarr out there, who seem to think that the State is their personal pet, and that they can hire or fire us as they wish.


Maybe you should just renounce your family name, defect to the Republic and get it over with. I'm sure they'll enjoy spending your two billion on bombs & missiles before packing you up and sending you right back to the State.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Vikarion
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-04-13 05:42:06 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Maybe you should just renounce your family name, defect to the Republic and get it over with. I'm sure they'll enjoy spending your two billion on bombs & missiles before packing you up and sending you right back to the State.


It's always nice to see one of my initiatives bear fruit so quickly.

Unlike some I could name, I don't actually live in the Republic or work for it. I am a member of the State Protectorate, a loyal Caldari capsuleer, and I like it that way. However, as I have noted, I have little love for the Empire. Oh, certainly, I hate the Federation. But that doesn't mean I have to hate the Republic, or believe that the Empire is in the right.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#7 - 2013-04-13 05:59:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Vikarion wrote:
Unlike some I could name, I don't actually live in the Republic or work for it. I am a member of the State Protectorate, a loyal Caldari capsuleer, and I like it that way. However, as I have noted, I have little love for the Empire. Oh, certainly, I hate the Federation. But that doesn't mean I have to hate the Republic, or believe that the Empire is in the right.


You say you don't hate the Republic? Well, alright, fine. My uncle (RIP) was born in the Federation (I'm from Jarizza), and my family thinks that the State's little conflict with them is nothing more than a constant headache that we wish would just go away. Do you think we want to keep half our fleet on that border all the time? Do you know how much our diplomatic efforts to end this cold-war between the Empire & the Federation are undermined by the State's constant fighting? So I can empathize that point. But...

I've still always admired our Caldari allies.... well, most of them anyway, but I suppose some exceptions had to pop up eventually. But I still feel that, as a whole, the State is the best ally we could have. Every time we turn around someone is calling we Amarrians "too judgmental" ... and then laying down a bunch of their own judgmental hostility at us (hypocrisy is rampant in New Eden it seems). They're the only people to not go wagging their self-righteous fingers in our faces all the time or try to meddle in our own internal affairs. We've also pumped a lot of money into the State's economy over the years - something that even the most bitter & cynical Caldari can and should appreciate.

But since you don't appreciate it then I will enjoy the poetic justice of watching Republic take your money and then tossing you right back out.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Vikarion
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-04-14 16:33:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Vikarion
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
But since you don't appreciate it then I will enjoy the poetic justice of watching Republic take your money and then tossing you right back out.


As I said, I do not live in the Republic, or desire to. Nor am I intending to fund their war efforts. I am offering to fund development in a constellation. If they take my money and use it well, there may be more forthcoming. If they do not, there will not.

The fact that this humanitarian proposal irks you, simply because it is being provided to the Minmatar, is merely icing on the cake.

But let me ask you, since you are here, whether you would prefer I gave the ISK to the Empire.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#9 - 2013-04-14 16:45:24 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Nor am I intending to fund their war efforts. I am offering to fund development in a constellation.


You are implying that there is any difference in their ledgers?

Vikarion wrote:
The fact that this humanitarian proposal irks you, simply because it is being provided to the Minmatar, is merely icing on the cake.


An interesting and completely wrong assumption. If I honestly believed that one ISK of that money would go towards schools or hospitals I'd be right there with you. But I know better.

Vikarion wrote:
But let me ask you, since you are here, whether you would prefer I gave the ISK to the Empire.


Nope. We're doing just fine on our own, thanks. Always have been.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#10 - 2013-04-14 17:07:36 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
RAWR!


Same ****, different day

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"

Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
Electus Matari
#11 - 2013-04-14 23:17:34 UTC
Interesting offer.

I would suggest that you contact the RSS capsuleer liaison and ask to be put in contact with a representative of the company you want to assist. Given our nations are at war, if only due to our respective allies, any interaction between yourself and a Republic based group would come under their scrutiny anyway.

I'm assuming that you are clearing this with your own Mega's security people on your end.

Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.

BloodBird
The Crucible.
#12 - 2013-04-15 05:00:54 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Oh, certainly, I hate the Federation.


Geeh, really? I had not noticed.

Less sarcastic, I have long considered asking you to extrapolate on this. May as well be today.

So with your offer here firmly noted and the means to see it delivered in the works (I assume) would you mind to share, or do I have to continue assuming that it's just your thing?