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199 euro for 13 plex ? when bought seperatly they cost only 195 euro ?

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tEcHnOkRaT
WipeOut Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2011-10-17 09:56:04 UTC
how come that u have to pay for a bulk trade more then if u buy them seperate
199€/13 = 15,307 euro bulk prise

when u buy 30 days gametime it costs only

14,95 euro * 13 = 194,34

so i wondering now is something wrong with ur calculator or does the pen write what it wonts ?
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-10-17 10:02:44 UTC
Plex != game time.

You cannot trade game time.
GreenSeed
#3 - 2011-10-17 11:01:17 UTC
plex cost more than game time, those extra 5 euro/dollars are the reason they let you "activate" accounts with plex.


and yeah, this is why everytime i see some clueless person assume CCP dislikes ppl having alts, or playing with plex i just facepalm. CCP loves plex. they allow them to charge 20 usd/ euro for montly subscription, when the industry average is 14.95.
Claire Voyant
#4 - 2011-10-17 11:26:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Claire Voyant
I would guess most people pay closer to $17.50 for PLEX because they buy GTCs for $35 and convert them to two PLEX. $20 is the single PLEX price and is mainly for people that can't afford $35 or don't know what they are doing.
Chevalleis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-10-17 13:22:03 UTC
Didn't we go throught this in the last spike?
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#6 - 2011-10-17 13:43:55 UTC
And PLEX is like for 400+ mil for the masses.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
malaire
#7 - 2011-10-18 09:15:48 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
Claire Voyant wrote:
I would guess most people pay closer to $17.50 for PLEX because they buy GTCs for $35 and convert them to two PLEX. $20 is the single PLEX price and is mainly for people that can't afford $35 or don't know what they are doing.

You can also just buy 2 PLEX for $35. The $20 price only applies if you buy single PLEX.

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Zendon Taredi
Tier Four Technologies
#8 - 2011-10-18 12:03:27 UTC
199 euro is 274 dollars last time i checked. idk why you think that europeans should cough up another 75 bucks for the same thing.
steave435
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-10-18 13:33:38 UTC
Zendon Taredi wrote:
199 euro is 274 dollars last time i checked. idk why you think that europeans should cough up another 75 bucks for the same thing.

Someone in a similar thread said it was due to EU countries charging VAT taxes on it, while the US doesn't. I'm not 100% sure if it's true, but makes sense.
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2011-10-18 15:39:32 UTC
steave435 wrote:
Zendon Taredi wrote:
199 euro is 274 dollars last time i checked. idk why you think that europeans should cough up another 75 bucks for the same thing.

Someone in a similar thread said it was due to EU countries charging VAT taxes on it, while the US doesn't. I'm not 100% sure if it's true, but makes sense.


Yep, there is VAT involved for European residents. To be more precise (taken from our Account Management page):

wrote:

European Union E-commerce Directive 2002/38/EC, Regulation 792/2002 stipulates that all EU residents must pay a Value Added Tax (VAT) on electronically supplied services including online games. CCP is thus obligated to add a VAT on all payment transactions for customers living within the EU.


CCP Spitfire | Marketing & Sales Team @ccp_spitfire
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2011-10-18 15:40:19 UTC
the reason is because ccp is not good at things and doesn't realize 1 dollar != 1 euro, and prices everything at the same amount of dollars or euros

in essence european players subsidize americans

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2011-10-18 15:41:26 UTC
as you can probably guess, the VAT does not happen to always equal the difference in value between dollars and euros

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Claire Voyant
#13 - 2011-10-18 17:26:28 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
as you can probably guess, the VAT does not happen to always equal the difference in value between dollars and euros

Damn people, this is MD. If PLEX is cheaper in one currency or the other, just convert and save money. If it's not worth the bother, then stop complaining.
malaire
#14 - 2011-10-19 07:09:12 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
as you can probably guess, the VAT does not happen to always equal the difference in value between dollars and euros

Maybe CCP thought that it is "close enough" to use same numerical price for EUR and USD instead of changing prices daily according to exchange rates.

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Maggeridon Thoraz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2011-10-19 23:43:24 UTC
well if you buy gtc for 34 usd and live in eu and have cc you can get a lot of more plexes.

34 usd for 2 plexes is around 24 euros. thus you could get 3 plexes more
Gizan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-10-20 06:03:15 UTC
confirming any euro person that whats this deal needs to send me their 199 euros to my paypal, and i will spend my 200 usd for the 13 pelxs, :)
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#17 - 2011-10-20 07:18:01 UTC
Weaselior wrote:


in essence european players subsidize americans


That just made this game a whole lot better for me.
Companion Qube
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-10-22 08:05:23 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
in essence european players subsidize americans

I like knowing that there's a cheese-eating surrender-monkey somewhere paying for part of my eve time.
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-10-23 08:41:13 UTC
Tasko Pal wrote:
Weaselior wrote:


in essence european players subsidize americans


That just made this game a whole lot better for me.


flip side is a more americans part with real cash for plexes and more europeans/russians actually play for free, hope i ruined your day. Pirate
Gizan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-10-23 16:49:50 UTC
i have only paid for 2 of my accounts, and that was the first month i played in 2008, since then is only been plex's/gtc's that i bought with isk, playing MULTIPLE accounts since then.
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