Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Please elaborate. What becomes unworkable with the resist reduction? Do all carrier pilots in the doctrine require carrier V?

Why are you constantly changing stuff that is not broken ?
5% per level is fine, it was fine 9 years so why change it ?

You're breaking this game up by doing this.

And 1% is so super low that it just doesn't make any sense.
It seems like you want to change that 1% just because you can and to annoy players who are playing for 10 years.

Not only that , but I've never heared anybody complain about resist bonus at all.
The only complaint slightly close to it is that repair bonuses aren't good, cause you need repairs to use it out ,and self repair looses its place as the fleet gets larger. So is that the repair bonus too good , or the self repair bonus too bad? You decide.

I'm fine with lowering the resist bonuses on T1 ships, but on T2? Really?
Shouldn't it be a big step up when you decide to invest in a T2 ship?
T1 ships is getting closer and closer to T2. Will there be a reason to fly a T2 in the future? (hopefully after all ships been rebalanced)

Right now I'm not even playing EvE, just having my sub. active, and changing skillque.
I'm mostly flying HAC's and probably will keep my sub going until I'll see the changes on them.

I was lucky enough to ask you a couple of questions the other night in a stream chat about this subject, but figured I would write a little something here about this specific subject about the nerfing, and another one that bugs me.

On the subject of slowcat carriers, you didn't say it but hinted to it, yes the primary slowcat carrier is the Archon with the resist bonus, but you seems to think this will be solved by nerfing the resist bonus, which won't change a thing, it'll just make the Archon slightly less tanky, it'll still be the best slowcat carrier by miles, and you have to realize there are more to this than just resist, for one the second most used carrier for slowcat, and only real other choice for usage is the Thanatos, and when you compare the two ships for slowcat setup, the Archon for one got a higher base armor hp, already making it better there, then ontop it got the resist bonus, while the Thanatos's second bonus is a fighter damage bonus which is completely useless on the slowcat setup, so even if you nerfed resist bonus to 1% the Archon would still dominate for the slowcat spot, it's a simple matter of having two bonus which supports the setup, not about how strong the bonus is, also it has a 7th low slot, where the thanatos only got 6, which just makes it even better, it can either use that 7th for a heavier tank or add damage without losing anything compared to the thanatos, in this case nerfing the resist seems like a uneducated nerf that won't actually change anything as the higher base hp and 7th low slot of the archon makes up for the loss regardless compared to the thanatos.


On the other subject would be the rokh, as I can only really talk from what experience I have from null, nerfing the resist on the rokh seems to be quite strange as the rokh in itself isn't exactly... well it seems strange, as the fact that the rokh is used so much isn't because it got like a huge buffer tank, it's the fact that it's a long range platform with a high RoF and a decent damage output, you said youself that remote repair is on the verge to being overpowered as it right now, the Rokh is good cause the range and RoF allows to easier break remote repair and work around it with a fast targeting switching alpha, nerfing that ship will only put it in a worse state to deal with alpha fleets, a nerf to the rokh like that is only gonna buff the alpha fleet further, and might end up leaving the maelstrom fleet as the only choice to deal with remote repair because of the silly alpha, and the resist on the rokh was what allowed it to also be able to enter a brawl without getting destroyed completely, it's what allowed it to be more than just a long range sniper, it was never good at brawling, and it would never out alpha a maelstrom fleet, but it could deal with remote rep and it had the ability to brawl, there is no clear alternative for that, unless you wanna use the apoc, which have been tried but possible because of high cap use or slot layout never really got far.

I would really love it if ccp took a deeper look for the ships in question for this apparently targeted blanket nerf and saw why those ships are so used, in most cases it's not because of the resist bonus being strong, but simply because there's not optimal alternative to the specific role of the ship, and just doing what a forum user would do be and nerfing the stat that seems on papir to be strong, might actually not have the affect you're searching, most ships can be put in line by changing more subtle things, hp, speed, targeting time, swap a slot from here to there, or even remove one, just going blindly towards the resist bonus and thinking all is good seems really uneducated to me.

Anyways that's my thoughts on this whole thing, of cause I can't really speak for all ships with resist, some like the abaddon seems a bit on the strong side at times, but I believe working with other stats could solve it.

that dull thud you can hear? it's the final nail in the hulk's coffin.

all hail king retriever.

Let's see how this affects active tanking, here we have fit with 2 LAR, Thermic Hardener and EM Hardener. The same fit is on Hyperion which has the 7.5% armor rep bonus and Abaddon which has 5% resist bonus which is dropping to 4%.

Without the bonuses both will have defense rating of 564 against Sansha.
With max skills Hyperion gets 776 defense against Sansha.
With current 5% bonus Abaddon gets 752 defense against Sansha.
With Odysseys 4% bonus Abaddon gets 705 defense against Sansha.

So in Odyssey Hyperion gains 212 more tanking ability with it's bonus where Abaddon will be gaining just 141.
That means after the nerf Abaddons 4% resist bonus will be 33% LOWER than Hyperions 7.5% rep bonus in active tanking.

When you think about it like this it is quite a hit to active tanking, do not like...

Would make sense as well, when 1000 ships shoot single dot in space the ammo are bound to affect each other ruining their trajectory and causing misses. The smaller the target the higher this effect would get. But since when did eve make sense anyway?

Actually, I have seen some people complain about the resistance bonus on the drake. However, that's probably because it's combined with the drake's good shield recharge and the sixth med. slot.

That's why you vote for somebody who's own personal interests mirror your personal interests. They are there to represent us, because we're supposed to vote in people who are like us.

At the very least, that's exactly who I voted in. People as close to me and my opinions as possible.