EVE General Discussion

Well, no one raises an eyebrow when highsec gankers use the bumping mechanics to kill freighters with a minimal number of ships.
How is bumping titans any different, regardless of how it got there? Ship price? The name "titan"? It drops the best loot?

because a freighter pilot or w/e can ctrl+space to stop warp, and regain control of his ship. a warp on the login like this, cannot be aborted... and thus the pilot has no control. this mechanic also only effects supercapital ships - because they are the only ship classes that warp slowly enough for this mechanic to work.

In essence, the bumping is not the problem, but the fact the pilot cannot do anything with his ship after he has logged in (like aborting the warp etc - which cannot be done otherwise nobody would ever go back to their log-out spots). Changing the mechanic to give a pilot control of his ship is flawed.

SOLUTION?
the only simple solution i see to this is making the ship 'invulnerable' in the same way you are after you undock - this would mean that whilst the pilot's ship has to return to it's logoff spot before he gains control, it will also mean bump ships would fly straight through the ship, and he would not be at risk until he lands at the logoff location

Well, the "stop warp" part was fixed ... however, you can still bump a freighter to hold it in place indefinitely .... or move it offgrid to a direction that you want.



Bumping IS a problem. CCP just don't want to bother fixing it until the noise level gets to a certain level.
As per OP, the titan has an option to counter this. On the other hand, a freighter without mod slots has no counters.

In response to a petition to this issue, CCP confirmed the flag system is working as intended. So, you logoff, warp 1 mil k, sit in space 60 secs, get engaged with 14 secs to go, activates flag, ship dies pod dies. Using "Safe Logoff" your post log warp is not visible, you do not sit in space for 60 secs.

Then CCP (or, more accurately, the GM who can't confirm such a thing to begin with) is wrong.

This is what the responsible dev actually has to say on the matter:

…so if it doesn't work that way; if it's actually possible to give people flags while they're logged off, don't petition it — bug report it. They may think it's working as intended when in reality, it doesn't, thereby making the GMs say very very incorrect things.

And I've seen other devs saying differently.

Supers are coddled enough as it is. Anything that makes their existence a little more risky can only be a good thing.

When lone pilots own and move titan alts around null to gank ratting Carriers then I feel that titans need a hit of reality. An expensive one.

I was wondering how long it would take till someone gets to this junction, you've exceeded all expectations
What is the core mechanic that made all of this possible and has a far more reaching impact (even during the olden times)?

The power of BUMP.

Its a little too much micromanagement. There is a way to deal with it (CCP programically).

Upon Logon, keep the Ship cloaked until it hits warp, once in warp, cloak drops.

I can't see how this could actually be allowed. Yes super's are "coddled", but this mechanic isn't a neutralizing factor for them..

Its more like "I'm stalking your actual life, and you have no defense except within the first 1 seconds of logging on, dscan, Analyze it ALL, and logoff.

Or Logon, Logoff, Logon, Logoff, see who pops in local due to logoffsky tricks, logon, logoff..

Send alts.. yes legion of alts for the preparation of you logging on...

Thats a little... you get the picture.