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Republic Security Services to cross Federal border at Bei at 20:00 to extradite criminal illegally

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2013-04-12 14:56:33 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Halete, I think it is possible that you may be confusing Bloodbird for Andreus.

I don't normally read every post on the IGS (because I have vastly better things to do with my time), so it's possible I missed it, but I really only recall you having those arguments with Andy.


I wish this were the case. Andreus is just... Andreus. This BloodBird character on the other hand is some paint-sniffer who, incapable of rational discourse, seems to get his kicks by tossing the name 'Angel' around for everybody who ideologically opposes him. I have gone into excruciating length before with him about the fact that I am not.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#42 - 2013-04-12 14:59:43 UTC
Halete wrote:
The Republic flaunting it's fraught incompetence is hardly news.

In a way this is amusing to me. The RSS mimic a petulant, unruly hound, waddling away in dejection after being sprayed by Daddy DED for growling at it's mother Federation.

Ridiculous, convoluted, capricious demon of a republic. Look at what the Minmatar Republic are without it's watchmen. Remember Yulai. I hope that from this, the Federation take a lesson about the nature of their allies. Such an impulsive, warlike nation cannot be allowed to exist without a firm hand at the leash and a diligent board of whistle-blowers. They will not respect your judicial process, Gallenteans, the terrorist state only know one purpose in life, and that is to destroy. They will walk over you like they walked over the Amarrian peace treaty if you allow them the chance.

I beseech my good brothers and sisters; look around you. For those of you who love peace, who strive for our Minmatar ideals, please look around you and realize that the Republic is not a home for you. It is a lying, violent ***** and it will corrupt your hard work, steal the sweat from your brow and with it fuel it's senseless war engine.




So, what would you have us do, Pilot? Abandon our homes, our culture and our lives? For what?

I prefer to remain in my adopted nation and make changes from the inside rather than abandon it in a time of transition. Please remember that we're the newest of the empires and are also going through major political changes now. It takes time to build a stable nation but, that's exactly what we're working towards.

Instead of lobbing grenades from the sideline and harping on every misstep you could join us in shaping the Republic, if you're really that concerned. Otherwise, allow us to go about our business without the sneering commentary.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-04-12 15:14:36 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:

So, what would you have us do, Pilot? Abandon our homes, our culture and our lives? For what?.


Sorry, but I have to laugh at this post in light of; the news.

You're doing a perfectly good job at that yourselves. So allow me to sneer.

I have no interest in helping your Republic, so why should you expect me to offer support I cannot possibly comprehend.

So here I am about to hit 'Post'...

What in the blighted cesspits of Starkman Prime? Your culture, dear? Blast you, cursed whelp *****. Your culture? The Republic didn't give you a damned bit of your culture worth keeping. No, that is the doing of your tribe, dear. There isn't one shred of culture the Republic has given you worthwhile. Damn you, woman.



"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#44 - 2013-04-12 16:06:20 UTC
Halete wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:

So, what would you have us do, Pilot? Abandon our homes, our culture and our lives? For what?.


Sorry, but I have to laugh at this post in light of; the news.

You're doing a perfectly good job at that yourselves. So allow me to sneer.

I have no interest in helping your Republic, so why should you expect me to offer support I cannot possibly comprehend.

So here I am about to hit 'Post'...

What in the blighted cesspits of Starkman Prime? Your culture, dear? Blast you, cursed whelp *****. Your culture? The Republic didn't give you a damned bit of your culture worth keeping. No, that is the doing of your tribe, dear. There isn't one shred of culture the Republic has given you worthwhile. Damn you, woman.





Maybe she means the sort of culture you get on a petri dish.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Ophelia Kiselouvre
Both Hands on the Keyboard at All Times
#45 - 2013-04-12 16:53:06 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Maybe she means the sort of culture you get on a petri dish.

Except that they're not actually talking about mold, so exactly why are you butting in, old man?

It ain't like this is about you.

Hi~~~♥

Liuni Kalthis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-04-12 16:54:45 UTC
Halete wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:

So, what would you have us do, Pilot? Abandon our homes, our culture and our lives? For what?.


Sorry, but I have to laugh at this post in light of; the news.

You're doing a perfectly good job at that yourselves. So allow me to sneer.

I have no interest in helping your Republic, so why should you expect me to offer support I cannot possibly comprehend.

So here I am about to hit 'Post'...

What in the blighted cesspits of Starkman Prime? Your culture, dear? Blast you, cursed whelp *****. Your culture? The Republic didn't give you a damned bit of your culture worth keeping. No, that is the doing of your tribe, dear. There isn't one shred of culture the Republic has given you worthwhile. Damn you, woman.


Halete we don't need more Minmatar bashing after yesterday's events. Please stop, I fear it will go someplace bad.
Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-04-12 17:01:04 UTC
I dunno. The way I see it, it's not the Republic (or the Federation, for that matter) that Halete's making look incompetent...

Bio and writing

(Nothing I say is indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated)

Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#48 - 2013-04-12 17:26:30 UTC
Now is the time for skilled diplomacy. If the Ray of Matar dies while in Federation medical care, the ramifications could be significant.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)

Liuni Kalthis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-04-12 17:27:35 UTC


We both know those battleships weren't just for the Ray of Matar, at least be honest with one another.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#50 - 2013-04-12 18:00:28 UTC
Halete wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:

So, what would you have us do, Pilot? Abandon our homes, our culture and our lives? For what?.


Sorry, but I have to laugh at this post in light of; the news.

You're doing a perfectly good job at that yourselves. So allow me to sneer.

I have no interest in helping your Republic, so why should you expect me to offer support I cannot possibly comprehend.

So here I am about to hit 'Post'...

What in the blighted cesspits of Starkman Prime? Your culture, dear? Blast you, cursed whelp *****. Your culture? The Republic didn't give you a damned bit of your culture worth keeping. No, that is the doing of your tribe, dear. There isn't one shred of culture the Republic has given you worthwhile. Damn you, woman.





I tried to be civil with you and discuss this in an adult manner. It appears that you have no intention of doing the same but, would rather lie, name call, make incendiary comments and in general be a rude ****. Fine, I'll waste no further time with you. Welcome to a spot on my block list along with other lunatics like Luftschreck and Kim.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#51 - 2013-04-12 18:06:49 UTC
I have to agree with the Republic, the breach of patient privacy in this case is shocking, but on the evidence available to me the conclusion that moving her would reduce her chances of survival seems like a reasonable one.

However much the Republic may wish Chief Midular be back in their care, I hope they're pragmatic enough to prefer the best medical option over the best political one.

There's been no mention of cloning in all this. Is that not an option in her case for some reason, has she chosen not to have a backup prepared, or is that information simply confidential? It seems to me that a former Prime Minister, a tribal chief, and a Ray of Matar would definitely have access to that technology if she desired it.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#52 - 2013-04-12 18:15:57 UTC
Apparently her injuries make cloning an uncertain prospect.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-04-12 18:37:02 UTC
yes, I'm referring to a cold backup here. I'm perfectly aware that a transneural burning scanner is not appropriate to use on a patient with brain swelling.

I know capsuleers are used to burn cloning and tend to forget that cold cloning exists, but every time you hear of a non-capsuleer getting cloned, that's how it's done. Restore from backup. I once knew a researcher, got blown out into space in a lab accident, she was back at work the very next day after they loaded her neural profile from storage. Otro Gariushi could have done it if somebody hadn't been catastrophically stupid and stored all his clones and his neural profile on the Malkalen HQ station.

I'm wondering why this has not been mentioned as an option in Karin Midular's case. Is it because she's a Ray of Matar?

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-04-12 23:38:38 UTC
Shintoko Akahoshi wrote:
I dunno. The way I see it, it's not the Republic (or the Federation, for that matter) that Halete's making look incompetent...


Hahaha, I see how it is...

So be it.

Curse you all. Damn all of you. Only more names to go on the list. More who must die so that this wretched Cluster can finally thrive as the haven it deserves to be.

Hahaha.

Damn you, damn you for turning me into this. Don't you see that it is your own doing?! I have no choice...

You left me with no other options!

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-04-13 00:17:17 UTC
Halete wrote:
Damn you, damn you for turning me into this. Don't you see that it is your own doing?! I have no choice...

You left me with no other options!


The Sisters of Eve run a very nice recovery program for Crash addiction. I know it can be hard, and it looks like the universe is against you, but they want to help. You can do it, Halete! You can be well again!

Bio and writing

(Nothing I say is indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated)

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2013-04-13 00:29:42 UTC
Shintoko Akahoshi wrote:

The Sisters of Eve run a very nice recovery program for Crash addiction. I know it can be hard, and it looks like the universe is against you, but they want to help. You can do it, Halete! You can be well again!


Why... Why do you mock me? Don't you understand how much pain I am in? How could somebody be so cruel?

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

BloodBird
The Crucible.
#57 - 2013-04-13 01:52:30 UTC
Halete wrote:
Shintoko Akahoshi wrote:
I dunno. The way I see it, it's not the Republic (or the Federation, for that matter) that Halete's making look incompetent...


Hahaha, I see how it is...

So be it.

Curse you all. Damn all of you. Only more names to go on the list. More who must die so that this wretched Cluster can finally thrive as the haven it deserves to be.

Hahaha.

Damn you, damn you for turning me into this. Don't you see that it is your own doing?! I have no choice...

You left me with no other options!


Hilarious.

I actually came back here to respond, because I felt it might be wise to at least inform you of why I despise you and other people like you so much, and why I feel that A) you should not be afforded any respect or respite for the actions previously made, and B) that you have no right to rail on the Republic or the Federation for a thing.

And here you are having a complete melt-down and pretty much reinforce my viewpoint perfectly.

You have plenty of choices, by the way.



For the actual topic at hand, I can only echo many others here. Nothing I have seen denies the Republic or the Sebeistor tribe from traveling peaceably to Luminaire and taking part themselves, and I do hope Midular recovers enough to travel home soon. I know I would not want to remain in foreign lands if I was in such a state - I would want to go home to Intaki and recover among my kin. But I would also want to be alive for that to happen.

I hope calm minds prevail here and that the former Prime Minister is well soon. I respect her quite a lot, it pains me to see her suffer like this. Same goes without need of a mention for the rest of the dead and wounded.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-04-13 01:55:20 UTC
Halete wrote:
Hahaha, I see how it is...

So be it.

Curse you all. Damn all of you. Only more names to go on the list. More who must die so that this wretched Cluster can finally thrive as the haven it deserves to be.

Hahaha.

Damn you, damn you for turning me into this. Don't you see that it is your own doing?! I have no choice...

You left me with no other options!

Come at me, sis.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#59 - 2013-04-13 02:34:07 UTC
Aidari Flamesight wrote:
I'm glad that there wasn't an exchange of fire, though still disappointed we didn't get our man.

But hey, now New Eden knows we don't screw around. Still odd how some think we do but whatever.

"Our man?" How is he your man? Or is that a confession?

As to screwing around... looks more like screwing up.
Aidari Flamesight
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2013-04-13 03:08:13 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:

"Our man?" How is he your man? Or is that a confession?

As to screwing around... looks more like screwing up.


It was merely a sarcastic statement. This monster has acted against the Minmatar as much as the Gallente, if not more so considering that I'm pretty sure no Gallente leaders were butchered by him.

We haven't made any mistakes regarding this. We thank the Gallente for all the assistance they have provided, but it's time to stop looking like their lap dog.

"Do not count days, do not count miles, count only the number of slaves you freed."