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where do you medical clone to if stn inaccessable
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JD Echo
Ninja Ratter Elite
#1 - 2013-04-11 16:48:50 UTC
just back to eve after a lay-off. My character is in a Nul stn that is now unfriendly so cant access the medical icon to change the location of my medical clone. if i leave the stn and pod express where am i likely to go to? medical home stn is inaccessable, any ideas please.

tks
mkint
#2 - 2013-04-11 16:52:28 UTC
station being inaccessible is only about docking. med clone will still take you there.

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JD Echo
Ninja Ratter Elite
#3 - 2013-04-11 16:59:27 UTC
i am already there with my active clone and a spare, the stn also is where the medical close is registered. what i dont want is to undock - die - end back inside the stn in the spare clone but with no way to update the clone so any subsequent death only 900,00 sp is protected

probably not being clear on my issue
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2013-04-11 17:18:19 UTC
JD Echo wrote:
i am already there with my active clone and a spare, the stn also is where the medical close is registered. what i dont want is to undock - die - end back inside the stn in the spare clone but with no way to update the clone so any subsequent death only 900,00 sp is protected

probably not being clear on my issue



You have a couple options here:

1 - Attempt to contact the owners of the station for temporary blue status to get your stuff out.
2 - Try and contact a local resident pilot and see if they will escort you
3 - Make a run for it
4 - Petition CCP to move you and your assets to a lowsec system or the closest NPC nullsec system


1 and 2 will likely get you scammed
3 will likely get you killed
4 will likely get denied by CCP

May I ask, where are you?

FC, what do?
JD Echo
Ninja Ratter Elite
#5 - 2013-04-11 17:37:16 UTC
think you probably right, stuff i dont worry about and happy to die in a ball of fire on exit but really dont want to be in a situation where i die and cant upgrade the clone and still be faced with being stuck in the stn. i will chat with the corp who own the stn

tks for the idea
Steven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-04-11 17:37:38 UTC
highonpop wrote:
JD Echo wrote:
i am already there with my active clone and a spare, the stn also is where the medical close is registered. what i dont want is to undock - die - end back inside the stn in the spare clone but with no way to update the clone so any subsequent death only 900,00 sp is protected

probably not being clear on my issue



You have a couple options here:

1 - Attempt to contact the owners of the station for temporary blue status to get your stuff out.
2 - Try and contact a local resident pilot and see if they will escort you
3 - Make a run for it
4 - Petition CCP to move you and your assets to a lowsec system or the closest NPC nullsec system


1 and 2 will likely get you scammed
3 will likely get you killed
4 will likely get denied by CCP

May I ask, where are you?


5. This is why you should have jump clones and at least one of them in high sec....problem solved.
Haulie Berry
#7 - 2013-04-11 17:46:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
Steven Koskanaiken wrote:


5. This is why you should have jump clones and at least one of them in high sec....problem solved.


And if the OP had access to some sort of time machine, this might have been a useful post, but he doesn't, so it's pretty worthless, right? Right.

I would try the petition, OP - I've heard (though never done it myself) that people who have been out of the game for a while typically do have some success with that method.

They might not be willing to move your stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are willing to at least move *you*.

You could also use an alt to do a little bit of scouting for yourself and check for gate camps. It won't be as good as a second account scout, of course, but it will be better than nothing.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2013-04-11 17:57:51 UTC
By the sounds of it, the OP wants to move his medical clone to a station he does not have access to. Unfortunately that is not possible.

It is standard procedure for new outpost owners to revoke all medical clone contracts. This moves the medical clones to the location of their corporate headquarters. However, jump clones cannot be evicted and will always remain.

You can only move your medical clone to a station you are docked in, or to one of the hisec stations of your starting NPC corp (always available).

If your stuff is stuck in a station, then you can either risk trying to get it out, or just sell it all (with Marketing level 1 trained you do not need to be able to dock, and with level 4 you only need to be in the same region as most regions are less than 20 jumps across).
Haulie Berry
#9 - 2013-04-11 18:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
Tau Cabalander wrote:
By the sounds of it, the OP wants to move his medical clone to a station he does not have access to. Unfortunately that is not possible.



No. He's already in a station where he cannot access the medical service. His medical clone is also located in either the same station, or some other inaccessible station (allegedly*).

He wants to move himself, or his medical clone, or both, to anywhere else.

His concern is that if he tries to leave and gets podded, he will medclone back to the same station, and now he has to try to get back to empire with no med clone, risking SP loss.

*If, as you said, his clone was revoked and moved to empire/corp HQ, he shouldn't have a problem. Not... not really sure if you can check your med clone location without access to the medical service, so it's entirely possible he only *thinks* has a med clone there.
JD Echo
Ninja Ratter Elite
#10 - 2013-04-11 18:09:58 UTC
yes the medical clone is in the same stn i am in - no the medical clone has not moved even though i am persona non gratis as not in the corp or alliance who own the stn.

must admit i did think that medical clones were recocated but that has not happened.

tks for the replies - its appreciated
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-04-11 19:39:42 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Haulie Berry wrote:
Steven Koskanaiken wrote:


5. This is why you should have jump clones and at least one of them in high sec....problem solved.


And if the OP had access to some sort of time machine, this might have been a useful post, but he doesn't, so it's pretty worthless, right? Right.

I would try the petition, OP - I've heard (though never done it myself) that people who have been out of the game for a while typically do have some success with that method.

They might not be willing to move your stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are willing to at least move *you*.

You could also use an alt to do a little bit of scouting for yourself and check for gate camps. It won't be as good as a second account scout, of course, but it will be better than nothing.


Has nothing to do with time travel. Only takes a single skill and a null-sec station (which he had) and a bit of common brain.

First thing I did when I moved to null is place a JC in high-sec. If I get locked out, I can use the JC in high-sec to relocate my med clone whenever I need.

Also...if you have not logged in for a longer period of time (the definition is based on CCP employee's idea of long), they might move you once. This will include your current clone + the ship and all what is loaded in it's cargohold.

They will move you to the nearest possible station that is NPC in empire (so could be low-sec).

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Ronix Aideron
Zymurgy Corp.
#12 - 2013-04-11 19:41:44 UTC
I would suggest getting on right after a downtime and making a run for it. This should increase your chances.

Start the day off slow and taper off from there.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-04-11 19:43:11 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:

*If, as you said, his clone was revoked and moved to empire/corp HQ, he shouldn't have a problem. Not... not really sure if you can check your med clone location without access to the medical service, so it's entirely possible he only *thinks* has a med clone there.


Obviously you never opened your character sheet and noticed that there is something called Homesystem (= Med. Clone location).

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Haulie Berry
#14 - 2013-04-11 19:55:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
J'Poll wrote:

Has nothing to do with time travel. Only takes a single skill and a null-sec station (which he had) and a bit of common brain.



Care to explain how that helps him with his problem today? Oh, you mean... it doesn't? At all? Not in the least?

Yes, he "should" have done that. No ****, captain obvious.

How much you want to bet he already figured that out? I'm thinking, "Gosh, wish I had set up a jump clone before I took a break from the game," is a thought that has probably crossed his mind already, and without the benefit of your brilliant insight.

His question was, "How do I fix my problem today?"

The response, "You should have set up a jump clone back when you played before some years ago, problem solved," couldn't possibly be any less useful.

You know, unless he has a time machine.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-04-11 20:06:42 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Haulie Berry wrote:
J'Poll wrote:

Has nothing to do with time travel. Only takes a single skill and a null-sec station (which he had) and a bit of common brain.



Yes, he "should" have done that. No ****, captain obvious.

How much you want to bet he already figured that out? I'm thinking, "Gosh, wish I had set up a jump clone before I took a break from the game," is a thought that has probably crossed his mind already, and without the benefit of your brilliant insight.

His question was, "How do I fix my problem today?"

The response, "You should have set up a jump clone back when you played before some years ago, problem solved," couldn't possibly be any less useful.


You already do know that it can help him the next time.

Or other players who read this before they join their first null-sec corp...

Also. If I personally know I will be away from the game for a while, I take all my important stuff to high-sec and also my main clones. Just in case. Worst thing that can happen is that I have to move stuff back to null. But at all times I'm protected against being locked out of any service etc.

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Haulie Berry
#16 - 2013-04-11 20:09:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
J'Poll wrote:
Haulie Berry wrote:
J'Poll wrote:

Has nothing to do with time travel. Only takes a single skill and a null-sec station (which he had) and a bit of common brain.



Yes, he "should" have done that. No ****, captain obvious.

How much you want to bet he already figured that out? I'm thinking, "Gosh, wish I had set up a jump clone before I took a break from the game," is a thought that has probably crossed his mind already, and without the benefit of your brilliant insight.

His question was, "How do I fix my problem today?"

The response, "You should have set up a jump clone back when you played before some years ago, problem solved," couldn't possibly be any less useful.


You already do know that it can help him the next time.

Or other players who read this before they join their first null-sec corp...



"Hey guys, I made a mistake, how do I fix it?"

"Well, you shouldn't have done it in the first place, problem solved!" is an asinine response.

Some of your posts are good, but you pretty clearly (and frequently) get off on berating people who have already said, "Hey, I made a mistake," for the fact that they made a mistake, despite the fact that they've already said they made a mistake, and are looking for a way to correct it in the future tense. Don't try and play it off like that's for the benefit of future generations; it's just your thing that you do.Lol
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-04-11 20:12:43 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Haulie Berry wrote:
J'Poll wrote:

Has nothing to do with time travel. Only takes a single skill and a null-sec station (which he had) and a bit of common brain.



Yes, he "should" have done that. No ****, captain obvious.

How much you want to bet he already figured that out? I'm thinking, "Gosh, wish I had set up a jump clone before I took a break from the game," is a thought that has probably crossed his mind already, and without the benefit of your brilliant insight.

His question was, "How do I fix my problem today?"

The response, "You should have set up a jump clone back when you played before some years ago, problem solved," couldn't possibly be any less useful.


You already do know that it can help him the next time.

Or other players who read this before they join their first null-sec corp...



"Hey guys, I made a mistake, how do I fix it?"

"Well, you shouldn't have done it in the first place, problem solved!" is an asinine response.

Some of your posts are good, but you pretty clearly (and frequently) get off on berating people who have already said, "Hey, I made a mistake," for the fact that they made a mistake, despite the fact that they've already said they made a mistake, and are looking for a way to correct it in the future tense. Don't try and play it off like that's for the benefit of future generations; it's just your thing that you do.Lol


And by not hleping future people you will end up with the same question over and over on the forums.

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Haulie Berry
#18 - 2013-04-11 20:15:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
J'Poll wrote:


And by not hleping future people you will end up with the same question over and over on the forums.


Oh, I fully agree that making information available to new players is a wonderful thing to do.

What I'm asserting is that it was pretty obviously not the intent, here, but rather a thinly transparent excuse to justify being a ****, and that this is a common feature of your otherwise generally informative posts.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-04-11 20:17:20 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Haulie Berry wrote:
J'Poll wrote:


And by not hleping future people you will end up with the same question over and over on the forums.


Oh, I fully agree that making information available to new players is a wonderful thing to do.

What I'm asserting is that it was pretty obviously not the intent, here, but rather a thinly transparent excuse to justify being a ****, and that this is a common feature of your otherwise generally informative posts.


Why would I say exactly the same if it's already mentioned in the post above me. I just added the 5th possible option as a solution (or even to prevent the problem in the first place).

***Yes. Steven is my RvB alt. Had him logged in on my cell phone as I was expecting a "important" RvB mail. Forgot to switch characters to post on the forums***

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Haulie Berry
#20 - 2013-04-11 20:26:24 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Haulie Berry wrote:
J'Poll wrote:


And by not hleping future people you will end up with the same question over and over on the forums.


Oh, I fully agree that making information available to new players is a wonderful thing to do.

What I'm asserting is that it was pretty obviously not the intent, here, but rather a thinly transparent excuse to justify being a ****, and that this is a common feature of your otherwise generally informative posts.


Why would I say exactly the same if it's already mentioned in the post above me. I just added the 5th possible option as a solution (or even to prevent the problem in the first place).

***Yes. Steven is my RvB alt. Had him logged in on my cell phone as I was expecting a "important" RvB mail. Forgot to switch characters to post on the forums***


Except the 5th possible option was pretty obviously not an option for solving his present-day problem because it's literally impossible for him to undertake that solution today. He would have had to set it up waaaaaaaay back whenever he last played.

Stating, "problem solved" after presenting this non-option that so clearly cannot solve the problem he actually has in the present makes it really apparent that it wasn't posted in an effort to help the OP, nor for the benefit for new players who might make a similar mistake.

Or, in other words, that was NOT one of your generally informative posts. Blink
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