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EVE's ever growing ISK inflation cost rates.

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Ken 1138
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-04-10 22:26:29 UTC
With the summer expansion not that far away, the EVE economy is going to take a serious hit.

With Ship prices climbing all the time and the ship skill rebalance will make already expensive ships in much higher demand.

What's going to be done to adjust this? Will ship building costs go down to compensate or general money making things in EVE from bounties to rewards go up?

First time I bought a Charon it cost 680 mil, a raven about 100 mil. Ah the good old days Haha.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-04-10 22:37:01 UTC
Why should anything be done?

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2013-04-10 22:41:46 UTC
Three words:

Player Driven Economy.

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Wooly Akachi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-04-10 22:44:49 UTC
If you want ship prices to drop you need to find a way to drop the price of minerals.

like say by going mining. i would be happy if you did this so the next whelp fleet i'm in my ship will cost me less.
Ken 1138
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-04-10 22:44:52 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Three words:

Player Driven Economy.



Yes but try buying a 150-300 mil ship unfitted no less, when you're a new player who doesn't know how to make any ISK. I've explained this to new players I've met and was almost apologetic about the high costs. I think alot of T1 ships have very expensive to very ridiculous costs.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#6 - 2013-04-10 22:47:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
I'd be curious to see price charts for trit, pyer, and all core minerals from the start, and all new minerals or production materials from their introduction. Considering that someone was recently doing a Chicken Little routine over a trit price crash, and others gripe over the ISK/hour of mining scordite (as pyer is evidently in short supply, elevating prices), my guess is that prices are constantly fluctuating.

Guess CCP needs more profitable non-ISK PvE. ;)

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#7 - 2013-04-10 22:50:07 UTC
Ken 1138 wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Three words:

Player Driven Economy.



Yes but try buying a 150-300 mil ship unfitted no less, when you're a new player who doesn't know how to make any ISK. I've explained this to new players I've met and was almost apologetic about the high costs. I think alot of T1 ships have very expensive to very ridiculous costs.


A "New player" shouldn't be buying the most expensive t1 subcapital ships in the game.

Prices have always been in flux. They did not always used to be as low as they were pre-tiericide. I think the fact that t1 ships have a meaningful cost is good for game balance. Remember back when the smallest thing people seriously flew for PVP was a battlecruiser?
Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-04-10 22:52:13 UTC
Cheap ships doesnt mean healthy economy Attention
Ckra Trald
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-04-10 22:59:39 UTC
purchase ships now

afk for 4 years

get isk and win and win and then quit because incarna 2.0

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Ken 1138
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-04-10 22:59:43 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Ken 1138 wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Three words:

Player Driven Economy.



Yes but try buying a 150-300 mil ship unfitted no less, when you're a new player who doesn't know how to make any ISK. I've explained this to new players I've met and was almost apologetic about the high costs. I think alot of T1 ships have very expensive to very ridiculous costs.


A "New player" shouldn't be buying the most expensive t1 subcapital ships in the game.

Prices have always been in flux. They did not always used to be as low as they were pre-tiericide. I think the fact that t1 ships have a meaningful cost is good for game balance. Remember back when the smallest thing people seriously flew for PVP was a battlecruiser?



Despite not even naming a ship the cost wasn't for a sub-capital at all.


And to Athena Maldoran, expensive ships doesn't mean a healthy economy either.

Honestly After years of playing EVE even with the new-ish tutorial that came out a while back. To me EVE is less new player friendly than ever. You know how hard it is to convince people I know to play this game? Very, often ending in failure.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#11 - 2013-04-10 23:06:57 UTC
Some market items are actually falling in price like the basic PI resources and most of the ice products. Most of the basic minerals are either stable or slightly decreasing in price over the last 3 months.

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#12 - 2013-04-10 23:07:28 UTC
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Despite not even naming a ship the cost wasn't for a sub-capital at all


What?

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Honestly After years of playing EVE even with the new-ish tutorial that came out a while back. To me EVE is less new player friendly than ever. You know how hard it is to convince people I know to play this game? Very, often ending in failure.


EVE has never had a high retention rate.
Haulie Berry
#13 - 2013-04-10 23:16:17 UTC
Ken 1138 wrote:
With the summer expansion not that far away, the EVE economy is going to take a serious hit.



Show your work or GTFO.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#14 - 2013-04-10 23:48:32 UTC
Prices have (in real terms, as compared to isk per hour of standard activities) basically fallen ever since the game released. Only recently has CCP finally made moves to stop this process.

Ships got way too cheap, to the point where cap ships were nearly disposable.

Personally, I don't understand why people would be upset about this. Eve has hundreds of ships, many of which are cheap, mid-range ships in the cruiser/frig class. If prices were to rise again to the point where BS class ships actually signified a meaningful investment for a player, there would be a greater variety of ship classes used in gameplay.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#15 - 2013-04-10 23:52:09 UTC
need more bots
Frying Doom
#16 - 2013-04-10 23:53:24 UTC
I would recommend a massive Isk sink.

Say increasing the cost of NPC station slots to be slightly more expensive than a POS on a per slot basis.

Problem solvered Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-04-10 23:59:29 UTC
economic "solution" = screw some people over to help other people in an attempt to fix an imaginary problem dreamed up by people that feel entitled.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2013-04-10 23:59:48 UTC
Ken 1138 wrote:
With the summer expansion not that far away, the EVE economy is going to take a serious hit.
…based on, what exactly?

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With Ship prices climbing all the time and the ship skill rebalance will make already expensive ships in much higher demand.
By “climging all the time”, I presume you mean “staying fairly constant”, and I don't quite see how making it a bit more difficult to get into ships will increase the demand. Also, they're not really all that expensive to begin with. The prices now are a bit higher than when I started playing the game, and they weren't difficult to afford back then even though ISK was harder to come by.

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First time I bought a Charon it cost 680 mil, a raven about 100 mil. Ah the good old days Haha.
Those weren't the good old days. They were the bad old days when the prices were completely out of whack due to a massively inflated mineral injection.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-04-11 00:01:41 UTC

... waits for the self-entitled "Y Gen" brats of EVE to get off their CQ couches and make some effort. Just a bit... a smidge... crack a sweat, even.

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Frying Doom
#20 - 2013-04-11 00:14:20 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
economic "solution" = screw some people over to help other people in an attempt to fix an imaginary problem dreamed up by people that feel entitled.

No just lowering the difference between welfare benefits and those who risk capital.

Reward = Risk * Capital Expenditure.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
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