Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Heavy drones mentioned with the Dominix.

I am concerned that CCP still seem to think anyone really uses them.

^^^ for me as well really.

This is my main beef. Gallente drone boats get the bandwidth to field heavier drones, but not the capacity to field adequate spares. As a result you end up playing the recall, re-deploy game constantly since drones are still wicked easy to kill.

Pretty sure all of these proposed Gallente BS changes should be deleted and re-worked by other members that ACTUALLY play their game rather than rely on metrics that have almost no real world applications. I'm also pretty sure that Kil2 is not up for the task of taking the lead on balancing anything at this point. Not trying to be mean or anything bro, but damn, you've managed to fail pretty hard pretty damn fast.

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who the **** would fly domi over the geddon now, worthless.

to think i was excited that kil2 got hired by ccp becase you actually played the game. are these actually your changes? what the **** was the point of hiring you?

these changed are bad and you should feel ******* bad.

please quit, thx.

I am struggling to find any good points in what you have done here... I really am. Point by point:

Hyperion:
8/4/7 does at least give it an extra low. However, since you didn't add any powergrid or to it, you are still going to be struggling to actually fit an active tank to it. Then too, it now can't use the dual cap booster setup without someone else around to tackle for you... and if you have more than about 2 people in fleet you would be better off having someone in a logi to rep you anyways, due to how horribad active armor tanking is on large ships. Active shield tanking works because you can use oversized reps on undersized hulls - see XLASB cyclone if you need an example. Until you can manage something equivalent to that with armor tanking, it isn't going to make a comeback, no matter how hard you try.

Additionally, blasters have short enough range that you aren't going to see buffer blaster hyperions like you do pulse abaddons because they don't have enough range - and the only environment that you might see them (WH's) won't use them due to mass restrictions anyways. As for rail fits... they will be less mobile than rohks, and the rohks range bonus means that they can use antimatter out to more effective ranges anyways. And there is a reason why "sniping" nowadays is done by attack battlecruisers, not battleships.

Go back to the drawing board, and try to come up with actual, viable uses for this ship that are more than just fringe cases.

Megathron:
You just swapped the slot layout with the hyperion. You are an idiot. One of the big reasons why the hyperion was so bad was BECAUSE OF ITS SLOT LAYOUT! You seem to be under the assumption that a 5/6 slot layout will work for armor tanking. Let me inform you - it won't. The only way that this will see use is as a shield tanked ship... not as armor tanked. If you want armor tanking to actually be viable on it, drop that "utility highslot", which it doesn't have the pg to fit anything in anyways for a midslot, instead of taking away one of its lowslots. A 7/5/7 slot layout megathron may actually see some use. Also... why the hell did you take away 25mbit bandwith? That just seems rather arbitrary... and this is the damn drone race too. Give it the phoons bay - 125 bandwith/175 capacity. What exactly you expect people to do with only 100mbit bandwith is beyond me - aside from just being capricious.

Domi:
Well... the domi needed some love anyways. At the moment though I'm struggling to see any use for this instead of the new geddon. The geddon gets missiles, can use neuts more effectively, can armor tank just as well, and they both do the same drone damage with the same drone bay. Also... give both of those ships their missing slot back. Despite what seems to be going through your heads, having extra drone bay is NOT worth loosing an extra slot - unless of course you are revamping drones to not be ******** pieces of junk with a UI out of the 90's that is.

Sorry if this seems a little hostile, but, seriously - these changes will NOT see gallente battleships used more.

-Arazel

Dominix(6/5/7): Fittings: 9000 PWG, 600 CPU
Armageddon(7/4/7): Fittings: 14500 PWG(-2000), 550 CPU(+65)

One large turret difference.
PWG difference: 5,500
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator: 2000 PWG.

Remaining PWG: 3,500

WTF??? In the words of Chris Carter... "Come on man!"

Even less useful than the hype in that config tho which is kinda lol - granted doesn't suffer quite as bad armor wise in some ways an interesting change but as a replacement for the mega... its a joke.



Pretty much all you needed to say there :P

I lolled, so harsh but so damn true.

At this point it seems that anyone with even the slightest intellectual capacity is in agreement with you.


Kil2 should just go back to using OP ships and pretending hes good. The only people that liked his streams were baddies anyway.

Seriously first take a gallente bs out and get some fights with them and then try to write a half decent change proposal.
I dunno who came up with those changes, but he needs either to be sent to drug rehab or asylum, because this is beyond terrible.

Why can't you look at each ship individually and not as a part of a blob? People still fly small gang/solo and I for one don't care how your sniper domi/shield mega/?hype fit into your grand 0.0 blob design.


Furthermore what I hate the most is constant dumbification of EVE, what's next not being able to undock if not fitted to CCP standard or buying fitted ships from market?

Lose the tier concept all together, ballance ships individually, stop assigning new terrible roles to classic battleships. fire the people responsible, leave EVE the sandbox it is.