Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You really that sure?

Most people’s complaints have been that the optimal bonus would have very little impact on normal combat drones not the tracking bonus. I would also find it strange if your supposition regarding the tracking bonus being useless for non sentry drones is true, that CCP has given out tracking bonuses to the Tristan and Navy Vexor neither of which seems entirely based around sentry drones.

Having tested the Domi on Singularity and Duality and having analysed the combat logs I am happy that within the game the tracking plus optimal bonus results in more applied damage by Ogres regardless of however Drone tracking allegedly applies.


Shield Gank fits can still put out over 1500dps, and can still hit 1100dps with Blasters and a hefty armour tank.


My sentries keep firing and I end up nearer to my target and now far away from my destructible DPS source, if you want to switch flights then disconnect from them and deploy heavies, you can reconnect to them if needed. Or you scoop and drop again in a new location; these are tactical choices and are far from dull.

Do I think it has reached its full potential? No. But it is drones that need tweaking at this point more than the Domi.

May I note you, that MJD makes a 100km leap? You need 3 DLA with perfect skills to cover this gap, or your sentries will just hang there doing nothing.

Yep, it's from your ship to target.

Hey CCP Rise i just watched the stream from fanfest where u talked about the battleship changes in front of the big screen ..... you seemed a tad bit nervous as if you could feel the eyes of the many broken hearted gallente battleships pilots that want to rage hehe.

dont take it bad man ... i can tell that you are trying to do a good job and i like all your changes except the gallente ones but 3/4 aint bad and gallente BS were bad anyway so meh .... hehe. i will ask you to consider this as a long time domi pilot(mainly navy domi now)


A good trade off and compromise for the many upset domi pilots that dont like the change .... leave the faction domi as it is ... besides its a faction ship and a gallente pilot still needs some incentive to train large railguns spec ... almost all hype's and megas are blaster boats and will never be used with railguns in a fleet doctrine or pvp scenario. without the faction domi retaining the hybrid bonus there will be almost 0 incentive to train large t2 railguns for a gallente pilot. caldari will use them but not gallente.

so please CCP Rise ... leave the faction domi as it is. you will have a fallback strategy to point to if people dont like the reguler dominix change ... they can get a faction domi. and we can see how it plays out in the long run. also you are giving gallente pilots more incentive to train large railgun spec. most people that use hype and mega just train the blasters spec. we need at least 1 gallente ship that says you definatly want large railgun spec to use me properly and the faction dominix has to be it.

Except, you know, powergrid restrictions and applied DPS keeping you from putting on tachyons and arties having crappy dps, making large rails often the best weapon for the job in many cases. Other than that zero incentive.



As someone who flies a faction domi regularly, I'd much rather have the drone tracking bonus than the hybrid bonus.

I was also always under the impression that drones would not *automatically* orbit at such a speed that they don't do full damage.

Guess I was wrong.

This mechanics is absolute rubbish, and I hope CCP will look at it soon. Then the new Domi won't be as bad as I thought it will be...

I am still very worried about the sheer dps potential coming from that Megathron without any significant weakness in durabiluty with 8 lowslots and only 500 less armor hitpoints than the Amarr Apocalypse battleship.

The Megathron in the current condition can pack a serious punch...
Megathron punch so hard people rarely get to deploy their set of heavy drones in a fight before their target is down.

Currently I find the Megathron balanced by the choice of having 3 plates + 1 damage mod or 2 plates + 2 damage mods.

Losing some drone power and a hi-slot which might have held a heavy neutralizer is a small price to pay for getting MORE gun dps and a lowslot for an extra plate or damage mod - or nanofiber/tracking enhancer/eccm whatever... This is a huge buff to one of the ships that didn't really need it - And the gameplay doesn't get changed at all.

I liked the initial proposal much better that suggested a role change - I like a Megathron with 7/5/7 layout a lot. Then I don't mind the ship having a RoF bonus and only 75-100 drone bay...

That is, has been, always should be, the point of the Megathron - *if* it gets on top of you, you are going to get ripped to pieces.

What is really required, is for the 'Jaws' theme music to play when a blasterthron is on grid with you...

You know, CCP, I had some pretty strong opinions on Gallente battleships and the changes didn't sit well with me, so I decided that instead of getting properly upset I'd give it a couple of weeks and then come back, hoping that when things had had some time to settle, things would get better.

They have not gotten better and I'm very deeply disappointed.

Let me break it down for you:

Hyperion
- Having two less turrets breaks the Hyperion's model, since it very clearly has eight turret hardpoints. It's literally built into the model. It needs to have eight turrets. That's the Hyperion's entire raison d'etre.
- Giving it a 10% damage bonus instead of a 5% one will not fix the ship, because the problem is nothing to do with the amount of damage it deals. When it's fitted for damage, it's one of the most dangerous ships in the game but it's let down by its serious lack of survivability.
- You give the excuse of not changing its repair bonus to something more useful because you guys want to fix both active tanking and armour tanking. Cool! I'm all for that - but don't leave a ship supporting a broken mechanic in the meantime unless you mean to fix active tanking and armour tanking at the same time.
- Another problem you haven't solved is that the Hyperion is still a less useful version of the Megathron. You need to give it a role far more differentiated from the Megathron. The Gallente currently lack a viable sniper platform - consider that.

Megathron
- A rate of fire bonus on turrets that use capacitor is a very bad idea unless you commensurately increase its capacitor recharge rate. It will also cause the guns to consume more ammunition which will have a negative effect on its battlefield endurance.
- The Megathron - and blaster boats in general - desperately need more manouverability. The only advantage the Megathron currently possesses over the Talos is that the Talos has vastly less survivability than the Megathron, but this is quickly negated by the fact that the Megathron is often dead long before it gets into range of what it's trying to shoot at.
- Dropping the drone bay is a bad idea.

Dominix
- The tracking speed/optimal range bonus is essentially entirely worthless for non-sentry drones. If you want the ship to buff sentry drones specifically, give it to it as a role bonus and free up the other Gallente Battleship skill bonus for something else.
- The Dominix, believe it or not, does benefit from its hybrid bonus, but if you're not going to give it back, consider giving it a remote repair bonus - this is one of the uses to which it's unusually suited.

A hybrid falloff bonus would be awesome on the Hyperion - it would give it greater range flexibility with blasters, but it would also make it a scarily effective rail sniper while still being different from the Rokh.