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WH "Coalitions" Blobs, Blue Lists, and bob.

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ktown Hekard
Llama Sombrero Syndicate
The Burning Contingent Alliance
#241 - 2013-05-21 19:55:34 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
ktown Hekard wrote:


Just an idea here, but why not organize even number fight, between parties who cant agree on anything and let chips fall where they may?


Because that in itself is anti-wh. Arranged fights go against the very nature of wormhole space. Don't let any of these "we only want good fights" idiots fool you. Wormhole pvp is mainly ganking, with the rest blobbing and the once in a blue moon good fight that actually happens by sheer chance. That is wormhole space.




Ah i see, ok ty lots to learn
ktown Hekard
Llama Sombrero Syndicate
The Burning Contingent Alliance
#242 - 2013-05-22 00:25:30 UTC
Meytal wrote:
joebro1060 wrote:
Then recruit for your corp and bring more people. Don't be mad if someone brings 5 more people than you to a fight because their people are ready to pew at any time and yours are not. The term "blobbing" is reserved for use when a roaming gang of 20ish gets responded to by a fleet of 200. That is what a real "blob" is.

This.

Many times, our own corp has people in the hole, or nearby, just goofing off, watching potential targets somewhere else, running PI, shooting each other for laughs, or whatever. But when we find something that we can actually shoot, we drop everything else and form up. We're not going to tell half our players to go back home because the number of active corp members means we outnumber our targets 2:1. We're going to let everyone share in the results of the hunt. Going home might not even be possible in the short term.

W-space is different from everywhere else. Because there is no free intel channel, the name of the game is Hunt and Be Hunted. You hunt for and stalk your target(s) until you can pounce. So, yes, there is a lot of what could be called "ganking", but think of those nature documentaries you never wanted to watch as a kid. It's the same thing here, except the documentary is about you. And, like in nature, while you are stalking your target here, you can count on someone stalking you, ready to pounce when you are most vulnerable from your own engagement.

Sometimes the hunt is rich and you find many targets, or you find another hunting group who wants to fight to see who will be Alpha. And then sometimes the hunt is scarce and you find only a few stragglers, if you find anything at all.

Once the hunt is over, the targets have been caught (and usually killed, though sometimes released), we are satisfied until the next time. This is when deals are made regarding survivors and whatever is left ... unless it turns into a three-way.

Edit: Forget "Shark Week". It's Shark Week here every day, and you're the shark.

Sometimes you can roam around W-space like you do in Null or Low, hoping that you bump into targets, but that's not normal. People who don't like the hunt of W-space and prefer the mindless wandering can go to Low and Null where they can find that kind of action; this game has a wide range of play styles available. The rest of us relish and cherish the hunt in W-space.

(Also keep in mind, every T3 that dies helps our income stream, and every T2 that does helps Null's income stream. Which group would you rather prop up?)





Oh great point, ime sorry ime still a noob so much to learn, tyvm for clarification on the terminology and it's correct usage, i learn something new everyday so ty:)
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#243 - 2013-05-24 06:40:14 UTC
Its all just helicopter-dicks and faffing about tediously for hours on end.
Rengas
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#244 - 2013-05-24 07:26:02 UTC
Nathan Jameson wrote:
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Wormhole pvp is mainly ganking, with the rest blobbing and the once in a blue moon good fight that actually happens by sheer chance. That is wormhole space.


Which is why so many wormhole entities are now using wormhole space as a staging ground from which to base roams into low sec and null. They're like guerrilla tunnels through enemy territory, complete with their own gold mines!

What a novel idea!

chris elliot
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#245 - 2013-05-24 07:49:34 UTC
Nathan Jameson wrote:
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Wormhole pvp is mainly ganking, with the rest blobbing and the once in a blue moon good fight that actually happens by sheer chance. That is wormhole space.


Which is why so many wormhole entities are now doing what Aquila/VoC have been doing for years because it is much more fun and sucks much less dong than wh fights.



Fixed it for you.
Xtrah
Overload This
TURBOFEED OR GLORY
#246 - 2013-05-24 10:37:21 UTC
chris elliot wrote:
Nathan Jameson wrote:
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Wormhole pvp is mainly ganking, with the rest blobbing and the once in a blue moon good fight that actually happens by sheer chance. That is wormhole space.


Which is why so many wormhole entities are now doing what Aquila/VoC have been doing for years because it is much more fun and sucks much less dong than wh fights.



Fixed it for you.


Really? It's like saying everyone else is copycats of AHARM because they moved into high class WH space. P

Also, I can't believe you live in WHs and think WH fights sucks. Some WH fights are amazing, because tactics matters more than numbers. At least it used to.
Xtrah
Overload This
TURBOFEED OR GLORY
#247 - 2013-05-24 11:51:38 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
ktown Hekard wrote:


Just an idea here, but why not organize even number fight, between parties who cant agree on anything and let chips fall where they may?


Because that in itself is anti-wh. Arranged fights go against the very nature of wormhole space. Don't let any of these "we only want good fights" idiots fool you. Wormhole pvp is mainly ganking, with the rest blobbing and the once in a blue moon good fight that actually happens by sheer chance. That is wormhole space.


There is no nature of WH space. There is no set way of doing anything, it's become something it was never intended to be, but that's the sandbox. Chain collapsing, sleeper farming with 5-15 dreadnoughts and ninja gassing, when was this nature of WH space? These "idiots who only want good fights" exists just fine, sure most kills is mainly ganking but for where in EVE doesn't this apply?

The reason I'm still in WH space is exactly this, the great fights that keeps on happening over and over again. It's why I'm in NoHo, because regardless of odds we have a mentality where we just do it anyway if it might end up in a good fight, be it taking a fight outnumbered, teaming up with our fellow WHbros to wreck havoc in nullsec, or just phail at fighting in someone elses home system. Even though we lose, it's not necessarily a bad fight. It's not what I remember, and it doesn't mean I can't try again the next day. Smile
Rengas
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#248 - 2013-05-24 15:41:11 UTC
Xtrah wrote:
chris elliot wrote:
Nathan Jameson wrote:
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Wormhole pvp is mainly ganking, with the rest blobbing and the once in a blue moon good fight that actually happens by sheer chance. That is wormhole space.


Which is why so many wormhole entities are now doing what Aquila/VoC have been doing for years because it is much more fun and sucks much less dong than wh fights.



Fixed it for you.


Really? It's like saying everyone else is copycats of AHARM because they moved into high class WH space. P

Also, I can't believe you live in WHs and think WH fights sucks. Some WH fights are amazing, because tactics matters more than numbers. At least it used to.

My favorite WH tactic is the hours of waiting while both parties try to scout the other and then inevitably run away when one side brings more/warps caps to the hole.
QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers
Atrax Hollow
#249 - 2013-05-24 17:25:35 UTC
Everyone should take the hard knocks approach.

Me - "Hey debes we just rolled into (insert major WH entity here)"

Debes - "Everyone reship into heavy armor t3s no scouts needed warp to their hole, jump in and start spamming local"

Fights ensue, people die, fun had, bob happy.
Gary Bell
Black Dragon PHP
Brave Collective
#250 - 2013-05-24 17:34:47 UTC
TROLL ASSAULT BEST ASSAULT!