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Official Protest - Mittani should be removed from CSM - *** UPDATED RESPONSE POSTED ***

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Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#221 - 2011-10-17 02:31:56 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

:deep breath:

just a second, i've got the mittani on the phone. here, let me pass it to you.

:over speakers:

"hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!"

I'd rather have someone who knows what hes doing but disagrees with my opinions at the helm than some absolute moron with similar goals. anyone your average highsec pubbie would vote for would, in all likelihood, only understand a fraction of the game and have a tenacious at best grasp of it.



Quoted for perfectly cromulent use of the word tenacious.

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#222 - 2011-10-17 02:34:07 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
If any of you trust a politician, I don't know what to tell you. Try not to drown in a puddle of rain?

The luxury of my popularity is that I don't have to bother lying to my voters about who and what I am. You get exactly what you voted for: a manipulative sadist who makes no apologies for who or what he is. And that's the kind of leadership the CSM requires if it's to accomplish anything when dealing with CCP; already CSM6 has demonstrated that with its lengthy record of successes.

I bet you're deretsun, all fluffy on the inside~

Nyan
The Apostle
Doomheim
#223 - 2011-10-17 02:36:17 UTC
Comrade Commizzar wrote:
What is this?? Are some of the Peasants awaking to the state of their serfdom under the oppression of their Feudal Lords??

Well to the OP I say "Welcome to the real world."

However, having preached for some years the truth of the economic slavery under which most of you peons exist
(due entirely to your ignorance and indifference for the most part I might add)
I must warn you that unless YOU DO SOMETHING TO UNITE THE WORKER'S OPPOSITION to said Overlords...

NOTHING WILL COME OF IT...

You are as they say "The sounding of brass cymbals in the wind.."

On the other hand organize, educate, motivate, and lead the proletariat masses to take up their hammers and scythes and...

SLIT THE THROATS OF THEIR MASTERS !

and maybe you will start something then...

Comrade Commisar, we have a small problem. The Mittani likens himself, in a fashion, to Stalin (while he quotes Karl Marx - which is quite disturbing).

In order for you to be as effective in the Rise of the Peasants, you too must also become Stalinesque....

But we need less pointless deaths. Not more.

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#224 - 2011-10-17 02:53:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Chopper Rollins
The Apostle wrote:


But we need less pointless deaths. Not more.



Well that's no fun.

Edit: By which I mean, it's the distribution of pointless suffering that makes me unhappy. When the bears are pushed into a solid shape by relentlessly being slammed, maybe their tormentors could suffer some lol losses.
Not holding my breath over here, but still.

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Celery Man
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#225 - 2011-10-17 02:55:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Celery Man
Just Another Toon wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Scamming and Ganking are allowed. If you trust someone because of a Title you should stop doing that immediately.

Being an A$$hole is not grounds for removal from office, just ask any elected official anywhere at anytime. If you do not like him then ether find a real crime that is against the rules and provide evidence or wait till his term expires and vote him out next term.



YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT

It is a problem when you hold a position of trust...they want to scam fine BUT THEY STEP DOWN FROM CSM - SIMPLE AS



YOU are missing the point.

I voted for the mittani and if he scammed me out of my fortune and burnt all that I owned in this game to dust, i would vote for him once again and with more passion than the first time. I want someone in charge of the CSM who understands the game better than me, and by your whole point of view its clear you really really REALLY do not understand this game.

Its Eve ffs... we came here to get away from players like you.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#226 - 2011-10-17 02:57:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Weaselior wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:

the ppl that voted for the CSM so theyd "either burn it down or fix it" are the ppl you want to blame. Well them an pretty much all of DRF lol
and all of the "high sec pubbies" that didnt care to vote


you're supposed to switch to an alt when agreeing with yourself


I was reiterating a point... it got ignored by the qq around it lol

Renan Ruivo wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:

this, guys
the ppl that voted for the CSM so theyd "either burn it down or fix it" are the ppl you want to blame. Well them an pretty much all of DRF lol
and all of the "high sec pubbies" that didnt care to vote


you're supposed to switch to an alt when agreeing with yourself


Oh my god i think that was a fail post


yes, youre right, blame mittani and the csm, not the ppl that voted for them to do exactly what theyre doing right now....

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#227 - 2011-10-17 02:59:12 UTC
Phew, While reading this thread, for a second there, I thought the CSM ran CCP and EVE. Like they were the ones in power.
They are only advisers.

CCP really is dumb enough to not be able to tell when one of their advisers has a vested interest in a part of their world?
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#228 - 2011-10-17 03:00:40 UTC
non judgement wrote:
Phew, While reading this thread, for a second there, I thought the CSM ran CCP and EVE. Like they were the ones in power.
They are only advisers.

CCP really is dumb enough to not be able to tell when one of their advisers has a vested interest in a part of their world?


apparently not....
they were all about "stay the course" an all till recently, that shows the intelligence we're working with

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#229 - 2011-10-17 03:04:43 UTC
One is an alliance leader of one of the biggest alliances in game having a vested interest. The other is development decisions.

There's a bit of a difference.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#230 - 2011-10-17 03:06:00 UTC
Celery Man wrote:
Just Another Toon wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Scamming and Ganking are allowed. If you trust someone because of a Title you should stop doing that immediately.

Being an A$$hole is not grounds for removal from office, just ask any elected official anywhere at anytime. If you do not like him then ether find a real crime that is against the rules and provide evidence or wait till his term expires and vote him out next term.



YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT

It is a problem when you hold a position of trust...they want to scam fine BUT THEY STEP DOWN FROM CSM - SIMPLE AS



YOU are missing the point.

I voted for the mittani and if he scammed me out of my fortune and burnt all that I owned in this game to dust, i would vote for him once again and with more passion than the first time. I want someone in charge of the CSM who understands the game better than me, and by your whole point of view its clear you really really REALLY do not understand this game.

Its Eve ffs... we came here to get away from players like you.

You would?!

And what's with "we" came here - who do YOU represent? You mean "we" should think like you do? This merely proves that Darwinism in Eve is just a mere concept. Not a practise.

"I" came here to get away from players like "you" - I was told the Eve playerbase had a higher IQ than the average game!

Obviously not.

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#231 - 2011-10-17 03:15:16 UTC
The Apostle wrote:

You would?!

And what's with "we" came here - who do YOU represent? You mean "we" should think like you do? This merely proves that Darwinism in Eve is just a mere concept. Not a practise.

"I" came here to get away from players like "you" - I was told the Eve playerbase had a higher IQ than the average game!

Obviously not.

Darwinism doesn't exist in any setting controlled by sentient beings capable of manipulating their environment. In eve, people work to ruin each other. Thats very different from natural selection. Don't use words you don't understand around here, you'll get called out on it.

I voted for mittens, and I think he's doing a well enough job as a CSM member, which is why I voted for him in the first place. I don't have a problem with his in game machinations, its the right of any eve player to plot and scheme using any tools available to them. If he can use the CSM title to gain an in game advantage without breaking the terms of the CSM agreement, more power to him.

The beatings will continue until posting improves. -Magnus Cortex

Official Eve Online changelist: Togglable PvP. - Jordanna Bauer
ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#232 - 2011-10-17 03:20:59 UTC
Just Another Toon wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
This thread pleases me.

I represent nullsec, hisec greifers, and anyone else who understands that EVE is a place for war and murder, not safety and weakness. As it happens, the voice of my constituents is far louder than the OP's cry for help; that is why I am the Chairman.

That I scam, kill, and gank and conquer are all reasons why my constituents feel that I represent their viewpoints accurately, and voted for me in the first place.

As for my RL, I was once an attorney in DC, but I retired and moved to Wisconsin last year.



Ah so you admit that you are representing 'Your constituency' as in goons and not the eve player base. What you put forward, is everything your constituents want. They represent all the is bad for eve, scamming, manipulation everything else.

Tell me, how can you be the chair of the CSM (which is supposed to represent all players) when all you do is represent yourself and the needs of your alliance.

Do what you like in game, but you should not be abusing your position, and should be removed.



Try for just one second to separate your in game activity from your real life.

In Game : You mine ice while the Mittani leads a bunch of chaotic trolls who murder, kill, steal and maim anyone they can for the lulz. You hate them and they hate you. Goons find this fun. You don't. We understand this.

Out Of game Alex G, who's online alter ego is The Mittani, sits on a player group that tries to influence the development of game rules to provide a better sandbox for us all to play in. Surprisingly, for such a Smug **** he actually does this quite well.

Alex doesn't seem to have a problem separating his CSM role from his In Game activities. You need to step back and see the difference as well.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#233 - 2011-10-17 03:31:13 UTC
We should do away with elections and make Mittens Chairman For Life and let him pick the rest of the council each year.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#234 - 2011-10-17 03:36:58 UTC
Mortis vonShadow wrote:
Well, you really are a waste of space, aren't you?

I'm not a Goon or a Goon alt, but I have to ask, have you ever read anything about The Mittani and what he does on the CSM for the overall gaming experience of EVE Online? I'll bet the answer is no, you have not. Because if you had, you would come to the realization that you don't know what you are saying.

First and foremost The Mittani is an "ingame" toon. His place on the CSM has nothing to do with it. How many GM's and Dev's that work for CCP are pirates and scammers/griefers? If you bother to look it up, you will see that quite a few of them are. Should they be fired for playing the game the way they like to play? Or should they just play the game all squeaky clean like?

Secondly, The Mittani's role on the CSM is one of the reasons we are having a huge revamp of the sov mechanics in nullsec, and with a play balance of the super capitals. He is also the voice of us hisec miners that have been screaming for years about the friggin' bots that are truelly ruining the game for us. He also leads the war on RMT's.

If you would bother to look up who the real Mittani is, you would find that he is a professional that works in a nations capital. He is not going to jeapordize his real life with some crap from a computer game.

Its not the Mittani that has an issue with blurring the lines between reality and EVE Online. No, it is you. You think that because there are people that play this game with dark intentions that somehow in real life they are bad people.

I feel sorry for people like you. You guys get on the forums and scream for CCP to help or to ban or change the game mechanics, but you all fail to realize, sometimes in games you will loose, as in life. Thats how a sandbox game is meant to be played.


My apologies for the almost total repost, but that says everything I wanted to write. Op and friends are badly mistaken if you think The Mittani's CSM responsibilities are in any way compromised. Like him or not, he has spearheaded a hell of a lot more positive things for Eve than you and all your friends combined.

'Nuff said.

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
The Apostle
Doomheim
#235 - 2011-10-17 03:53:03 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
The Apostle wrote:

You would?!

And what's with "we" came here - who do YOU represent? You mean "we" should think like you do? This merely proves that Darwinism in Eve is just a mere concept. Not a practise.

"I" came here to get away from players like "you" - I was told the Eve playerbase had a higher IQ than the average game!

Obviously not.

Darwinism doesn't exist in any setting controlled by sentient beings capable of manipulating their environment. In eve, people work to ruin each other. Thats very different from natural selection. Don't use words you don't understand around here, you'll get called out on it.

I voted for mittens, and I think he's doing a well enough job as a CSM member, which is why I voted for him in the first place. I don't have a problem with his in game machinations, its the right of any eve player to plot and scheme using any tools available to them. If he can use the CSM title to gain an in game advantage without breaking the terms of the CSM agreement, more power to him.

I suppose I am referring to the branch of Darwinism called "survival of the fittest". Poster I was referring to stated if he got scammed and burned to the ground he'd still vote for the doer of such evils Cool

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#236 - 2011-10-17 04:02:33 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
I suppose I am referring to the branch of Darwinism called "survival of the fittest"

:cripes:
Causalitii Eullon
Catalyst Consortium
#237 - 2011-10-17 04:02:45 UTC
Mortis vonShadow wrote:
Well, you really are a waste of space, aren't you?

I'm not a Goon or a Goon alt, but I have to ask, have you ever read anything about The Mittani and what he does on the CSM for the overall gaming experience of EVE Online? I'll bet the answer is no, you have not. Because if you had, you would come to the realization that you don't know what you are saying.

First and foremost The Mittani is an "ingame" toon. His place on the CSM has nothing to do with it. How many GM's and Dev's that work for CCP are pirates and scammers/griefers? If you bother to look it up, you will see that quite a few of them are. Should they be fired for playing the game the way they like to play? Or should they just play the game all squeaky clean like?

Secondly, The Mittani's role on the CSM is one of the reasons we are having a huge revamp of the sov mechanics in nullsec, and with a play balance of the super capitals. He is also the voice of us hisec miners that have been screaming for years about the friggin' bots that are truelly ruining the game for us. He also leads the war on RMT's.

If you would bother to look up who the real Mittani is, you would find that he is a professional that works in a nations capital. He is not going to jeapordize his real life with some crap from a computer game.

Its not the Mittani that has an issue with blurring the lines between reality and EVE Online. No, it is you. You think that because there are people that play this game with dark intentions that somehow in real life they are bad people.

I feel sorry for people like you. You guys get on the forums and scream for CCP to help or to ban or change the game mechanics, but you all fail to realize, sometimes in games you will loose, as in life. Thats how a sandbox game is meant to be played.

Oh, if I've offended you in some small way. I don't care. If you want to take it out on me in game, I live in Parses. I will honor your 1v1 and bring any boat you like, I fly them all, except the capitals.

I would give you a hug, seeing as how you need one, but you smell funny. Get out of your mothers basement and take a shower.

Have a nice day.


I dislike goons for many different reasons that aren't really relevant atm but they play the sandbox mmo well and some people can't handle it. This is not wow. Please grow up or uninstall eve
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#238 - 2011-10-17 04:02:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
non judgement wrote:
One is an alliance leader of one of the biggest alliances in game having a vested interest. The other is development decisions.

There's a bit of a difference.


theyre stupid or they dont care. Which is worse?

Thorn Galen wrote:


My apologies for the almost total repost, but that says everything I wanted to write. Op and friends are badly mistaken if you think The Mittani's CSM responsibilities are in any way compromised. Like him or not, he has spearheaded a hell of a lot more positive things for Eve than you and all your friends combined.

'Nuff said.


well since noone seems to understand this; list them please.

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#239 - 2011-10-17 04:11:02 UTC
The mittani has my full support.

listen op... that is if you still read this thread
nobody should have to explain to you that people elected to represent or liaison between the community and the company are typically PLAYERS of said game, and usually are high profile players.

now couple that with eve and you get

0/10 fail troll post is fail
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#240 - 2011-10-17 04:20:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
*double post*