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Quick demo on how to Multi-box in EVE using ISBoxer. Went ratting in Navy Omens...
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ShadowandLight
Trigger Happy Capsuleers
#1 - 2013-04-07 06:15:16 UTC  |  Edited by: ShadowandLight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlm4XrR0VvU

Let me know what you think.

Ill make another video soon showing mining and how to effectively use multiple accounts.

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Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#2 - 2013-04-07 09:45:48 UTC
considering the popularity of multi-boxing I can see this thread going downhill quickly Smile

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
Thelonious Blake
Miles Research and Development
#3 - 2013-04-07 10:06:27 UTC
Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-04-07 10:19:54 UTC
Nice video. But I don't think I would particularly enjoy running 16 accounts like that myself.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-04-07 10:28:38 UTC
Thelonious Blake wrote:
Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.


No

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Thelonious Blake
Miles Research and Development
#6 - 2013-04-07 10:51:43 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
No

OK.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-04-07 11:03:29 UTC
Thelonious Blake wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
No

OK.


Good!

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#8 - 2013-04-07 11:27:12 UTC
Thelonious Blake wrote:
Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.


Depends. Having 2-3 isn't bad, more so then that yes.

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Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#9 - 2013-04-07 11:35:57 UTC
Thelonious Blake wrote:
Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.


Having one account in an orca effectively caddying a set of spaceships around for me is fun, and other ways the 2 accounts work together. That and having a full trained indy acct, that isn't messed in with this characters combat training.

What I didn't find fun was plexing an account, so I wound up paying for both of mine, so that eve doesn't become like 9-5.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-04-07 13:42:49 UTC
Domina Trix wrote:
considering the popularity of multi-boxing I can see this thread going downhill quickly Smile


It's not that multiboxing is evil (I multibox), it's when players don't use good judgment when using so many alts. If you were in a game and met a 40+ multiboxer, you'll learn quickly to dislike them being in group activities (no real way to counter them. Tactics like identifying and killing the main don't even work anymore). It makes a game not a "game" anymore.

In WoW it's gotten to be in PvP with such multiboxers it's which team with less bots and multiboxers wins. Lead a BG there when a 40 boxer showed up. Manage to make the dude wait almost 2hrs for his "guaranteed win", but the outcome was assured as there's no means in the instance to remedy the situation.

Solo activities no one cares. But in groups it becomes a bot vs bot fest. That isn't good.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-04-07 13:54:35 UTC
I have no idea why CCP do not consider this an exploit but they really should.
I run multiple accounts a LOT myself but don't use any lame ass software to bot it.

If I was to change one single thing about EVE EULA it's make this garbage a ban-able offense.

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ShadowandLight
Trigger Happy Capsuleers
#12 - 2013-04-07 15:23:00 UTC
Thelonious Blake wrote:
Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.


There is certainly a point of diminishing returns depending on what you want to do with your alts. Dual boxing PVP accounts is pretty doable but beyond that it becomes hard to keep track of the battlefield.

Thats why mining (for an example) is one area where you can maximize the effectiveness of your alts, although keeping up with the hauling can be tough :)

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-04-07 15:42:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentamon
Jack Miton wrote:
I have no idea why CCP do not consider this an exploit but they really should.
I run multiple accounts a LOT myself but don't use any lame ass software to bot it.

If I was to change one single thing about EVE EULA it's make this garbage a ban-able offense.


rage! Big smile


I think you should use a separate computer for each of your accounts, and with specs that only CCP allows! So there mr smart guy!

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-04-07 15:45:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentamon
So how exactly does the OP hurt you in EVE.

Jump in with a small fleet and watch his computer melt.

Easy kills.

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-04-07 16:13:57 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
So how exactly does the OP hurt you in EVE.

Jump in with a small fleet and watch his computer melt.

Easy kills.


Have you met a multiboxer with such software? I show who I met...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amDdn8Iiqc0

Managed to ride his tail for almost 2hrs (only option available, as 35 accounts shooting at you is instagib). We pulled back so he wouldn't get his IWINs, and did our best to waste his time. Until he had a friend on OUR side who did his best to give him 40+ deaths by running up to him to die.

That's how these dudes "win".

You face that, you will never think it's "easy" to kill them, nor that it should be in the game.

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Thelonious Blake
Miles Research and Development
#16 - 2013-04-07 18:28:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Thelonious Blake
Ace Uoweme wrote:
[...] nor that it should be in the game.


These guys pay their taxes, as everyone else. They also need some IQ and much dedication to achieve this.

I don't see how this hurts CCP, and neither, as I think of it, the player community too.

This is not World of Warcraft, you know, and there is no best ship, or best setup and etc. Every ship has it's drawbacks. His omens, for instance, have only 27 kms of range. If they had more range they'd lack tracking or something else...

OP also said that he's very easy target for smart bombs while multibox mining. I'd also say - try bombing him with sb fleet in 0.0 and watch his omens trying to warp away...

I made a rather lenghty post, but it got lost Sad this is what I recalled.

Edit: Oh, also... Don't you think that disallowing players to multibox would be against the sandbox?
xarjin
Galactic Deep Space Industries
Brave Collective
#17 - 2013-04-07 18:54:21 UTC  |  Edited by: xarjin
ShadowandLight wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlm4XrR0VvU

Let me know what you think.

Ill make another video soon showing mining and how to effectively use multiple accounts.


Great video thanks.

more transparency and direction about multiboxing in eve is whats needed. this can only serve to further help dilute misunderstanding about multiboxing being botting.

As someone that knows dozens of people within the multiboxing community including the author of pwnboxer who liked your video aswell i might add i'll be sure to pass this video around to others to promote eve multiboxing :)

Another friend of mine multiboxes eve with 9 carcals and he'e been playing for around month and lives in nullsec.

Multiboxing 9 Carcals
Deriah Book
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-04-07 22:26:08 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
I have no idea why CCP do not consider this an exploit but they really should.
I run multiple accounts a LOT myself but don't use any lame ass software to bot it.

If I was to change one single thing about EVE EULA it's make this garbage a ban-able offense.


That being said, I have met players in Eve for whom this type of box control would be, not only not a benefit, but a hindrance to their effectiveness.

So the question is, does this type of functionality hurt Eve?

If that mini swarm in the video came upon you, would it enhance your game? Sure, there is a lot of DPS. But there is also a fundamental flaw in how the pilot approaches the engagement mentally. Strategically.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#19 - 2013-04-07 23:20:43 UTC
Be a man, try that without a cheat program. Blink
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-04-08 00:42:17 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
I have no idea why CCP do not consider this an exploit but they really should.
I run multiple accounts a LOT myself but don't use any lame ass software to bot it.

If I was to change one single thing about EVE EULA it's make this garbage a ban-able offense.

More quality posts from Jack Miton. Apparently multiboxing software is "botting".

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
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