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Something tells me Dust 514 might be in trouble...
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Hrothgar Nilsson
#21 - 2013-04-05 17:15:29 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
PlayStation 4 will cost $799 for the base model, $899 for the ultra elite whizbang model with 20% more storage.

Yeah, I'm sorry, you're pulling a Neo Geo at this point.

You never took Econ 101, did you? It's called skimming.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-04-05 17:15:57 UTC
The PS3 was crazy expensive when it was released, its going to be ok after a while.
IbuyAlts
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-04-05 18:01:46 UTC
fukier wrote:
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
Djana Libra wrote:
Last time i checked Dust is for the PS3 so ur problem would be??


Er, nevermind, I had an idiot moment. Thought Dust was for PS4.



think eve classic vrs eve premium... dust will be on ps3 for years after it comes to ps4...



ohh yeah the good old days
Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-04-05 18:14:53 UTC
You mean you took a video where someone said that HL3 was going to be released on wiiU and gabe said that it could produce amazing graphics seriously for more than one second ?

Bad posts are not welcome on these forums.  -CCP Falcon
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-04-05 18:18:22 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Confirming that that price will never come down, that production of the PS3 will stop the instant that the PS4 launches, and that all existing PS3s will sublime into vapour.

PS who can remember the price the PS3 launched at? Google tells me $599. If we assume inflation at 4% for 6 years since, that equates to $750 today.
That makes no sense.
What background brings you to the idea that inflation justifies
a price increase regarding computer related stuff ?

There's not one single computer, or peripheral,
that got more expensive in the last 6 years.

Am i missing something here ? I really don't understand how you can
apply inflation to this. It just makes no sense to me.
Can you explain ?


The prices of electronics go down.
Down.
Down.

In a ring of fire.
A ring of fire.

*dumdidum*
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#26 - 2013-04-05 18:40:50 UTC
Zenos Ebeth wrote:
You mean you took a video where someone said that HL3 was going to be released on wiiU and gabe said that it could produce amazing graphics seriously for more than one second ?


Even we ultra-geniuses have our lapses :(
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#27 - 2013-04-05 18:42:04 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:

PS3 is a console whose generation is ending, to be replaced by the PS4. Dust is still very new, and if it wants any hope of success, it'd have to be ported to the PS4. The PS4 having such a stupidly high launch price (in combination with the probability that Planetside 2 will also be on PS4) is Bad News Bears for Dust. If it's true, of course.


This might be true if you assume all PS3 owners are dumb enough to throw away their PS3s and buy PS4s to run a PS4 port of a PS3 quality game that already exists on their PS3.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-04-05 18:49:08 UTC
I'm not entirely sure that video is legit. Half-life 3 for the Wii U? Nobody can be that stupid, surely?

Dodixie > Hek
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2013-04-05 18:50:07 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Confirming that that price will never come down, that production of the PS3 will stop the instant that the PS4 launches, and that all existing PS3s will sublime into vapour.

PS who can remember the price the PS3 launched at? Google tells me $599. If we assume inflation at 4% for 6 years since, that equates to $750 today.
That makes no sense.
What background brings you to the idea that inflation justifies
a price increase regarding computer related stuff ?

There's not one single computer, or peripheral,
that got more expensive in the last 6 years.

Am i missing something here ? I really don't understand how you can
apply inflation to this. It just makes no sense to me.
Can you explain ?


Yes. He's being sarcastic.

Dodixie > Hek
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-04-05 18:55:04 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
They kept making PS2s for a long long time (Wikipedia says until late 2012), and they sold well, mebbe the same will happen for PS3?


It's possible, I guess. Dust really does have awful timing, though, due to it largely being a turd created by the CCP of old that the CCP of new (i.e. post Summer of Rage) is desperately trying to polish into something that they can use.

You sound awfully angry about something. Have you even played the game? It seems most people who pan DUST as much as you do haven't even tried it and they're just mad that it's not a PC game.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#31 - 2013-04-05 19:03:25 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
They kept making PS2s for a long long time (Wikipedia says until late 2012), and they sold well, mebbe the same will happen for PS3?


It's possible, I guess. Dust really does have awful timing, though, due to it largely being a turd created by the CCP of old that the CCP of new (i.e. post Summer of Rage) is desperately trying to polish into something that they can use.

You sound awfully angry about something. Have you even played the game? It seems most people who pan DUST as much as you do haven't even tried it and they're just mad that it's not a PC game.


I hear dust is bad because it tastes all grapey and sour

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Hrothgar Nilsson
#32 - 2013-04-05 19:09:20 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:

What background brings you to the idea that inflation justifies
a price increase regarding computer related stuff ?

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_skimming

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-04-05 19:10:20 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:

What background brings you to the idea that inflation justifies
a price increase regarding computer related stuff ?

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_skimming

That's the worst formatting on wiki article I have ever seen.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#34 - 2013-04-05 19:23:27 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
That makes no sense.
What background brings you to the idea that inflation justifies
a price increase regarding computer related stuff ?

There's not one single computer, or peripheral,
that got more expensive in the last 6 years.
But we're not talking about a single computer or peripheral, now are we? We're talking about two completely different computers, released at completely different times, with a pricing determined by market segment.

Sony wanted the PS3 to be the premium console, so they charged a premium price.
Sony wants the PS4 to be the premium console, so they're going to charge a premium price.
The only thing that has changes is what Sony think they will have to include in order for the customers to buy the noise about it being a premium product.

You see this everywhere. A top-spec computer costs the same now as it did 10 years ago relative to the average income of computer enthusiasts. Same goes for TVs or cars or refrigerators or phones or whathaveyou. Yes, tech becomes cheaper, but the price points of the end product remain pretty much the same because manufacturers simply use that cheaper tech to cram more features into whatever it is they're selling.

Quote:
The prices of electronics go down.
Down.
Down.
Actually, the prices of electronics — as with most things — remain pretty constant if you look at relative performance in the marketspace. The only thing that gets cheaper is the stuff that doesn't add anything new over time.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2013-04-05 19:34:53 UTC
Except of course $800 base for a gaming console is still a ridiculous price.
The video is likely a late April Fools, especially considering the announcer says "at the reasonable price of $799 for the base model...", the article says the price is "extremely cheap", and no other gaming news source has verified anything in this article or video.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#36 - 2013-04-05 19:42:13 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Except of course $800 base for a gaming console is still a ridiculous price.
Sure, but that's a slightly different topic than why stuff costs what they cost and what relation that has to things like inflation and advances in manufacturing.
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-04-05 19:47:47 UTC
PS4 has issues, most notably that I won't be able to purchase used games.

I think I'd rather start crack instead. It's cheaper than buying new video games, and I'll still be high long after other people have finished the 15 minutes that games last these days.
Kontract Killa
256th Shadow Wing
Phantom-Recon
#38 - 2013-04-05 20:11:34 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
http://www.mevio.com/episode/327358/playstation-4-price-revealed-as-xbox-720/?utm_source=a1jnzt&utm_campaign=a1jnzt&utm_medium=a1jnzt

PlayStation 4 will cost $799 for the base model, $899 for the ultra elite whizbang model with 20% more storage.

Yeah, I'm sorry, you're pulling a Neo Geo at this point.


Sony hasnt confirmed a price yet. Anything you read till they officially announce the priced, will be nothing more than speculation and rumor.
handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#39 - 2013-04-05 21:24:47 UTC
Can't believe so many people fell for this.

Half LIfe 3 only on Wii-U...... Lol
Xbox 720 specs.... Microsoft doesn't even comment on how the controller looks
PS4 Price... Sony hasn't even shown the console itself, let alone a price

Baddest poster ever
Velarra
#40 - 2013-04-05 21:41:25 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
The prices of electronics go down.


Aside from perhaps RAM and its scarcity. Expensive early when very new, dropping in price and then rising much later before its an antique, but by no means ancient. Particularly older laptops that may use manufacturer specific ram. Or motherboards that will only accept very specific brands / qualities of ECC ram.