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You don't, which means you're pretty far down the list for campaigning on what researchers would prefer.



So you're campaigning for only yourself?

(Yep, the "I's" have it).



Doesn't compute, as a WH candidate scored higher than you...71% vs 57%... and isn't running on an industry platform.



Third, I...

At this stage, don't think you're campaigning for industry, but for yourself.

I will not matter, the reason you are low on his list is because he wants to get more effectively free stuff, for doing nothing.

He should say that you are low on the free loader card.

And this is the biggest problem I hear with a lot of players in their criticism of CSM candidates. There is this strange belief that just because a player is null sec, low sec, industrial or PvE, that they are going to gut the game entirely for those that don't play in their particular play style so that their play style can have life on easy mode. If you are an industrialist, I encourage you to shout up those people you believe are going to do the best job for you. I'm probably not going to be in your top 5 of vote choices, but to think that I'd go out and destroy your game instead of working to improve it, just because it isn't my main focus is narrow sighted and toxic to what the CSM needs to be in order to be effective.

I can't really play with you because you are demonstrating an inability to comprehend what you are reading. Playing with you requires pages of pyramid posting just to keep you on track, which would only result in a closed thread. Disagreeing with me is one thing, putting your fingers in your ears and humming, while completely ignoring anything that I am saying is another.


If you don't agree with me fine, but you can't just say Naah, not address it, not pose a legitimate counter argument (to what I am saying) and continue onward to parroting your side--of which--I have already addressed and completely contradicted.


You are a weak debater. Thus I cannot "play" with you. At best I can amuse myself by calling you a stupid poopyface.

No, its called an uninformed CSM refusing to reach out to the community to truly understand their needs. It's a communications failure leading to a breakdown of information causing an improper opinion to be pushed. If you believe that the CSM, or its members, are acting on the simple goal of screwing over a portion of the player base for no reason other then to screw them over, there is nothing I can say to you to change your mind. I however refuse to believe that is the case.

Now, if you believe that the CSM in the past has made decisions that are more beneficial to their playstyle, more beneficial to their region of space and more beneficial to their constiuency, I won't argue that point and while being on the receiving end of such a change (And I've seen 3 in the last year directly hurt my coalition), makes it look like the former is the case, being able to see and understand both sides of the argument shows that the actions were done with what the CSM saw as the best interests of the game, not simply to screw over a certain segment of the population.

You can insert all your perception is reality, and so on analogies here, but I simply refuse to believe that, and despite all of the issues in CSM 7, including being extremely disunited, no where in the hundred of pages of meeting minutes can I find anything along the lines of "Lets make life miserable for XXX".

Nice try at what exactly? I'm merely pointing out the fact you have no evidence and the fact it makes no difference to the fact, that subscription figures are at an all time high.

You can make excuse all you like.

Oh wait that is all you seem to be capable of doing.

Here is another well mannered CSM (want-to-be) being constructive, and giving the player base well informed information in a respectful and dignified manner.

You can't prove that subs are not at an all time high via the growing trend of multiple accounts either. Now can you? I however have years of subjective experience, being that I have personally recruited at least 2,000 pilots into various corporations and alliances. I have dealt with individuals on forums that you have never even heard of and have been in contact with more then my share of pilots on a personal level for somewhere around 5 years.


I have worked on supercarrier production operations. I have been asked to be a guest speaker at certain notable eve schools. I have dealt with mission runners and -10 pilots, rookies and 100m sp tycoons. And through it all, permeating all manner of professions in EVE, the change over the past couple of years has been very noticeable. Everyone and everybody are all getting that second account, at least. It is just "in style" now more then it used to be. Many of my old friends now have 3,4 and 5 accounts. Some have more.



So when you say "find me a website that proves it"
I say...

Maybe log in and go talk to some people. You know... engage them a little. Then you too can benefit from eve's social medium.




The number of alt accounts making up EVE sub's will never be something CCP will allow to go public. It makes for bad publicity. To learn that a sizable % of your player base is a supporting toon and not a real person would be bad advertising. This is information you have to acquire in game, over years of above average sociable interactions. If you do not have such interactions... then you sir have no room to speak.

To simply say "it is not so because it is not on the internet" is the new age stupidity of wiki- warriors.