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TIBUS HETH ANGRILY DENOUNCES CALDARI PRIME DMZ, BLASTS ISHUKONE AND SUVEE PARTICIPATION

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2013-04-04 17:00:42 UTC
TomHorn wrote:
TomHorn applauds and salutes the State Leader as he watches replay of the speech.

Even though large tracts of space around Caldari Prime have fallen into the grip of the Federation Navy and all the odious apparatus of Gallente Federation rule, we shall not flag or fail.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Caldari Prime,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our planet, whatever the cost may be,
we shall never surrender,


You weren't there, Mr Horn.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#22 - 2013-04-04 18:26:30 UTC
Anyone else notice how....ill....Heth is looking lately?

If he doesn't want to do us all a favor and just die already some time soon, he really should stop by my office in Elonaya. His personal physicians obviously are not up to the task, he needs true professional help.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-04-04 19:59:04 UTC
And this is why the man is plainly unsuited to leadership. He's parochial, small-minded and venomous.

Leaders need to be calm, they need to see the bigger picture, and they need to see the opportunities rather than the obstacles. Heth is able to do none of these things, and never has been.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Toluijin Chagangan
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-04-04 20:29:25 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Stuff
Two frogs will never give birth to a human.
more inane ramblings


Neither will two iron shod jackboots, but you seem to miss the point here.


Seven Tribes.
One Matari People.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-04-04 20:45:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Caviar Liberta
It just shows that Tibus Heth was simply using Caldari Prime, the Shiigeru and her supporting fleet as propaganda tools. After this was removed he simply is shown to nothing more than a propagandist. After the threat was removed from the Gallente home system open dialog was allowed and we were more than happy to talk about Caldari Prime.

Unlike what a vocal minority might have you think, us Gallente are not the monsters we are made out to be concerning the Caldari citizen who reside on Caldari Prime.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-04-04 20:49:02 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
All we need now is a Victory! And Tibus Heth will lead us to Victory!

I can't help but notice how much more desperate and denialist you come with every passing day.

It's deeply satisfying.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Paladinhunt
Drip Inc.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#27 - 2013-04-04 22:23:00 UTC
You might be a litte off your crock if you find yourself mortal due to a disease and later having to fend off groups of rivaling power who are guaranteed to outlast you in the long run.

Enjoy being in the footnotes of history, Heth o7
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#28 - 2013-04-05 00:04:00 UTC
Quote:
If you or anyone else endangers this proposal by your stubbornness, pride and selfishness you can rest assured I will be on the other side of the field to stop you. Traitors to the State (and make no mistake, if you oppose the will of the CEP, especially by force, you are a traitor to the State) will receive no quarter nor mercy.


Your an appeaser Khross ! Appeasement will only lead to the handing over of our planet Caldari Prime, to Gallente Federation rule in the end Khross, and the murder of many more innocent Caldari citizens by this odious regime. Mark my words Khross.

Your views are extremely sinister and extremely dangerous Khross. I wouldnt be surprised if the Caldari Providence Directorate or Templis Dragonaurs pay you a visit soon and the CEOs of the Mega Corporations.

Your an extremely dangerous citizen Khross, and need to be watched very closely in my honest opinion.

TomHorn finishes his broadcast with a call for all Caldari Nationalist to continue the fight where ever they maybe and continue there support for the State Leader Tibus Heth. Broadcast switches off the picture fizzles out
Talvitoku
Doomheim
#29 - 2013-04-05 00:17:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Talvitoku
Anything that forwards the cause of Caldari Prime is good and anything that stands in our way is bad. Tibus Heth is rapidly becoming the latter instead of the former.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#30 - 2013-04-05 00:21:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
TomHorn wrote:
Quote:
If you or anyone else endangers this proposal by your stubbornness, pride and selfishness you can rest assured I will be on the other side of the field to stop you. Traitors to the State (and make no mistake, if you oppose the will of the CEP, especially by force, you are a traitor to the State) will receive no quarter nor mercy.


Your an appeaser Khross ! Appeasement will only lead to the handing over of our planet Caldari Prime, to Gallente Federation rule in the end Khross, and the murder of many more innocent Caldari citizens by this odious regime. Mark my words Khross.

Your views are extremely sinister and extremely dangerous Khross. I wouldnt be surprised if the Caldari Providence Directorate or Templis Dragonaurs pay you a visit soon and the CEOs of the Mega Corporations.

Your an extremely dangerous citizen Khross, and need to be watched very closely in my honest opinion.

TomHorn finishes his broadcast with a call for all Caldari Nationalist to continue the fight where ever they maybe and continue there support for the State Leader Tibus Heth. Broadcast switches off the picture fizzles out


I'd say that the CPD has moved against the CEP and thus forfeited it's legitimacy, but in truth the only forces Executor Heth was able to field were the Templis Dragonaur. Still... those pilots and the ones behind the scenes who gave the orders are most definitely guilty of crimes against the State. Crimes which I hope the CEP holds against them.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#31 - 2013-04-05 00:21:32 UTC
Fine of you to speak of the murder of innocent Caldari citizens and Tibus Heth in the same breath Horn-haan. It wasn't too long ago that KK Homeguard forces did just that [murdered Caldari citizens] under the watch of your king. Your devotion to a single man rather than the State is far more telling of a dangerous citizen than Khross-haan could ever hope to be.

A meritocracy means that those who show merit are meant to lead. If you have any respect for the ideals of our State, you'll be sure to hold Heth accountable to that ideal as well.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#32 - 2013-04-05 00:21:35 UTC
Nor was I there, Talvitoku-haan. One battle does not a patriot make, nor does one absence a patriot disprove.

That said, Mr. Horn, what service -have- you done for the State? Before you let more phlegm fly, please demonstrate to us that your words are worth more than mere wind?

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Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#33 - 2013-04-05 00:31:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Khross
TomHorn wrote:


Your an appeaser Khross ! Appeasement will only lead to the handing over of our planet Caldari Prime, to Gallente Federation rule in the end Khross, and the murder of many more innocent Caldari citizens by this odious regime. Mark my words Khross.


An appeaser? My service record would argue with you more loudly than anything I could say so I will simply leave it at that.

TomHorn wrote:
Your views are extremely sinister and extremely dangerous Khross. I wouldnt be surprised if the Caldari Providence Directorate or Templis Dragonaurs pay you a visit soon and the CEOs of the Mega Corporations.


Perhaps they will. I will treat them to tea and offer them the hospitality that is due any Caldari when visiting another.

TomHorn wrote:
Your an extremely dangerous citizen Khross, and need to be watched very closely in my honest opinion.


You're quite right, I am dangerous. I do hope I am being watched and I will tell you why.

I hope that with every breath I take, every word I speak and every action I choose to make that I serve as an example to my Caldari kirjuunen of what it means to walk with wisdom, courage, honor and integrity. I hope that every step I take along the Way is a beacon for others to follow that will lead them to the honored halls of their ancestors and bring them pride in being all that they can be among the Caldari. Furthermore, I hope that I serve as an example to those outside of the State of the qualities and virtues we Caldari possess, so that when they look upon me they see the embodiment of all that the Caldari are.


I hope that if nothing else can be said of me it is that I lived and breathed heiian. This should be the aspiration of all Caldari.

What concerns me pilot is not that you imply groups such as the CPD and the Templis Draganaurs will pay me a malicious visit and remove me from the picture but that you seem to be okay with this implication as a part of life in the Caldari State. The State has no home for these sorts of shadowed boogie men.

Bright stars and clear horizons.

~Malcolm Khross

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-04-05 00:45:21 UTC
We don't need any "DMZ"s.
There should be no rules when you dealing with those, who don't follow rules.
Fight gallente everywhere!
In Caldari Prime, in Gallente Prime, in space and on ground!
There will not be a place where they will be able to hide!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2013-04-05 01:00:39 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
We don't need any "DMZ"s.
There should be no rules when you dealing with those, who don't follow rules.
Fight gallente everywhere!
In Caldari Prime, in Gallente Prime, in space and on ground!
There will not be a place where they will be able to hide!


But then you BECOME those who don't follow any rules in turn!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-04-05 01:11:03 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
We don't need any "DMZ"s.
There should be no rules when you dealing with those, who don't follow rules.
Fight gallente everywhere!
In Caldari Prime, in Gallente Prime, in space and on ground!
There will not be a place where they will be able to hide!


But then you BECOME those who don't follow any rules in turn!

You know, you can't poke your enemy's face with a flower, if he has gun pointed at you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#37 - 2013-04-05 01:12:53 UTC
A saying I heard once, though I know not from where:

The willow bends, the oak breaks.

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Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2013-04-05 01:41:29 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
We don't need any "DMZ"s.
There should be no rules when you dealing with those, who don't follow rules.
Fight gallente everywhere!
In Caldari Prime, in Gallente Prime, in space and on ground!
There will not be a place where they will be able to hide!


But then you BECOME those who don't follow any rules in turn!

You know, you can't poke your enemy's face with a flower, if he has gun pointed at you.


When my enemy is pointing a gun at me, I use my boots on his face, not a flower. But when he says "Wait. Let's talk." it helps to have more tools in your belt than just a hammer.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-04-05 02:22:55 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

You know, you can't poke your enemy's face with a flower, if he has gun pointed at you.



Why not? If they are simply pointing it at you and not firing, not swatting, pushing, or shoving you away, you most certainly can prod them with a flower. A readied weapon is a threat of course, but it is not a physically harmful action. If one has the conviction and courage to be undaunted by that threat then that threat has no sway over your own actions. True enough a threat of force is effective enough in most cases, but not against those with true dedication to their causes. Perhaps you should reexamine your conviction if you feel you could not act in the face of a threat.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#40 - 2013-04-05 02:24:59 UTC
TomHorn wrote:
Quote:
If you or anyone else endangers this proposal by your stubbornness, pride and selfishness you can rest assured I will be on the other side of the field to stop you. Traitors to the State (and make no mistake, if you oppose the will of the CEP, especially by force, you are a traitor to the State) will receive no quarter nor mercy.

Your views are extremely sinister and extremely dangerous Khross. I wouldnt be surprised if the Caldari Providence Directorate or Templis Dragonaurs pay you a visit soon and the CEOs of the Mega Corporations.

Your an extremely dangerous citizen Khross, and need to be watched very closely in my honest opinion.

TomHorn finishes his broadcast with a call for all Caldari Nationalist to continue the fight where ever they maybe and continue there support for the State Leader Tibus Heth. Broadcast switches off the picture fizzles out

You disgust me sir. To imply terrorists would visit an upstanding Caldri Citizen who has fought for his nation to kill him for following the orders of the central authority of the Caldari is a serious threat indeed. It's also an example of the insidious disease that is the Provist threat; that is not, and never has been the way a proper citizen acts.

Even if Heth is a 'leader' the CEP is the authority in the State. He works for them. A LOYAL citizen carries out their directive; if a loyal Caldari citizen is carrying out Heth's directive, it is only on the condition the CEP has sanctioned that directive.