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Please, sirs, allow me a moment to interject from the en24 circlejerk.

(By the way, you all were hardly "covert")

This will be a quick personal statement, as I am not a TL diplo, leader, or any sort of person that pretends to be important in a game.


We, as in TL, have always provided "good fights" to anyone we rolled into or rolled into us. Any alliance can attest to us. We have no only provided fights, but have fought when we shouldn't we have fought in glorious 3 ways. We have fought in a null dive, only to come back and reship to armor to engage another WH entity.

We recall a time SSC caught some of us with Ventures- they let us go, we reshipped into armor, and we had a fight. This is Transmission Lost.

Most of us were not in the alliance when it was Narwals. There goes that excuse.

There was no intention of a "good fight." You brought an eviction fleet. You were looking for the Loveshack specifically, with EA.



If this was your op, why was Cipreh so desperate to find us? Why did Bane post this in Lost Pub?



This was an eviction from the start. Bane and Cip both knew about this from the beginning. Polarized may have done the legwork, but there's more that Max and Co. are helping to hide.





So all this talk about how the Loveshack had some sort of coup needs to stop. RIGHT NOW.



So what is my point in this? I'm not going to post a perspective or statement from TL. Maybe if the leadership wants I wil. However until all of them agree I suggest wait for the story to be said on TMC.


Also. All of you other WH dwellers out there. CSM elections are coming up. those of you in C5/C6 alliances, who follow the unwritten code of Bob.. that we respect those who fight, and evict those who scavenge resources with no respect to fighting.


KNOW THIS.

Know that Cipreh and Chitsa have shown that they will bring massive fleets to evict entities that provide fights. Know this that you now now have less people to have those fights, at least for the time being.


REMEMBER THIS

When you cast your votes. Remember who really will represent the preservation of the WH community. If you were going to cast any vote for these two, you may want to reconsider... lest you find yourself under the guns of a nullsec-sized fleet.

I should open a tinfoil hat stall in TL's WH and make a fortune.

Oh wait....Never mind.

Hey guys,

Just wanted to say Zer01 + POSHU had lots of fun with this operation. Although we have friends on both sides of this conflict we had alot of fun being the defenders for once . Either way all of our guys had lots of fun on comms and we enjoyed shooting each other haha. Hopefully we can all move forward from this and resume the good fights soon. I hope to see you all on the battlefield.

The first point, it agrees with me so we'll leave it at that.

You say this was not an EA op, however the logs tell a different story. I hear there are more incoming in a soon-to-be-posted article on TMC. I guess we'll have to wait for those. That being said, in the course of the past week I have heard it go from a massive invasion fleet, to a ~gudfights~ fleet, to an eviction fleet.

Stop pretending it wasn't. Polarized seeded in 12 caps (because EA has few, let alone ones that can't leave your C2). They seeded in 9 Bhaals, and most of the time numbers ranged from 80-130.

BUT even that doesn't stop the glaring evidence, which is after both ~gudfights~ you participated in an eviction. If you're going to lie, at least be better at it.

Marmites were hired THE SAME DAY as the invasion fleet began rolling. Considering TL hasn't been in a war in almost a year (except for the small corp that ended up falling apart because of us) it seems like a pretty funny coincidence. Oh and look, the eviction is done and the Marmite war is ending.



As to your ass, I can only suggest Icy Hot. Just keep it off the balls. Trust me.

Vincent Gaines you truly need to get a new tune. I am busy so will keep this short.

Bane went to gunner and explaned that some people wanted to leave TL and that he would like to take the name. He gave him time to talk it out and said things like "I do not want to be a ****" and "want to give you guys time to talk about it". The reply was to do a midnight vote to change ownership with an alt corp putting it over the top. This is also with MOST of the corps acually in the allaince not being on the on the councel and able to vote.

Bane came to the loveshack guys and tried to talk about it and they did a midnight take over. SO all deniels of there being some shaddy business needs to .. how did you say it. STOP RIGHT NOW.

EA was asked to join polarized. We did not start this we where ask to come in. No one was paid.

You KNEW for 3 days that we where rolling in and did NOTHING until the last day. Then did not have any courdination with your Alliess when they did get in to help. THEN through a ***** fit at them for trying to help.

I know that nothign we say will change your mind. Arguments can legititmly made about eveictions vrs fights and so forth. Mabye your leadership should conduct themself in such a way that they do not annoy so many people to this lvl.

Edit: Polarized battle report http://evenews24.com/2013/04/04/battle-report-video-operation-patty-cake/

Nobody twisted 1%'s arm. Nobody twisted R-NAT's arm. DDOWN industry was put in months before this happened. Who was discussing tin-foil again? I don't even need to bring up the name issue. Both Bane and yourself have shown that it's still a painful memory and really you should just let it go.

Of course, seems like you couldn't when Cipreh came on comms Monday evening asking for the name back.

We knew you were coming, we knew the names of your scouts. We dispatched at least one and had another in just a pod. We knew you were rage rolling to get in, and we kept sig watch and hole control for 3 days. We did not "do anything" if you are referring to batphoning because we don't run to friends at the first sign of trouble. Only with an unlucky roll did you get in, and it's actually hilarious irony how it happened.

Lastly, regarding TL leadership. EA leadership has held no qualms about hating on DJ. It's well known.



As I said there, it's kinda stupid (I used a different word).

And I can only laugh when people think of DJ as some kind of mastermind. But hey, the less you know the better

I never said that this was a long standing plot or that the alt corp was brought in for that porpose. I did say that Bane went with good intentions and got spit in the face. Which you have convinently keep on ignoring in your replys.

I could care less about the Name .. i was in TL for like a month before this all went down. I have no axe to grind I am just speaking about what happened and my prosptective in it.

You did batphone before they got in. You just sucked at cordination once you did.

I haver not commented ont he invastion vrs good fight thing becuase I do not know abotu that .. and unlike you I can acually admit it.

Yeap .. they oh .. that guy is right and I look like a tool. Lets say that his replys do not matter card. Whats next your mom jokes?

Yeap I was not there for long before this happend. So .. logicly that means that I am less biased. I am sure that I have got some things wrong but i have talked to both sides and have seen chat logs and forum post again from both sides.

Since you can not even look at facts ... like for example that Polarized engenired this entire thing. Then your .. i can't even use the word opinion... lets say propiganda means nothing.

Stop wasting everyones time.

I only have a problem with this sentence in the polarized. view of the events in evenews24.


This isn't correct at all.It isn't looking for fights, why don't you just admit the fact it was an eviction(and nothing to do with goodfights)
And you even prove it in the same post on evenews :

So you started the invasion with 3 alliances against 1.
What ever the reasons are, i don't care.
I am a bit disapointed in polarized. though, i though you would be able to handle us on your own... .
We would never had any reinforcements if the odds weren't stacked against us.

Like many of you mention, we aren't that loved by the other w-space alliances(why i still don't understand, but that is just me).
In fact you can state correctly that these badly stacked odds in it self was a bathphone to every other alliance.
At all times the odds were stacked against us, but still we fought. Even though we knew it was a turkey shoot.

And an other thing, after you got your "goodfight" you still did the structure grind... .
Can someone tell me what the goodfight is in shooting 9 POCO's and all our pos'es(10 or more, i never bothered to count)?
I can't seem to understand were the good fights are in that... .

I can only agree with Gnaw :


This was a good fight since some people clearly don't know what they are:
Boris encounter