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It's a good starting list, but is still missing some key issues:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2683275#post2683275

- Remove the need of granting the Factory Manager role to people in order for them to make use of the POS labs/arrays. Instead, allow us to grant usage of the labs based on the 14 "titles" in the Corp UI. That would mean that players could no longer cancel other players jobs easily and would make running a "research" division much easier. Which might improve the particulars of null-sec industry.

- Change how job cancellation works. If a job gets cancelled partway through, you should get as much progress as was made on the job within that time. In the case of BPO research, the number of ME/PE points accumulated by that point in time, rounded down. Plus a refund of any unspent per-hour fees. The main reason for this is to open the door for allowing player-owned towers to provide public research. If the customers are assured of at least getting partial credit on their jobs instead of all or nothing, then there's less potential for outright griefing and theft of the fees. Fees should be placed into an escrow and then paid out to the tower owner every N hours (whenever the job gains a new level of ME/PE or output).

- Fix CHAs to allow containers to be fully used (withdrawing of contents, not just deposit boxes). They got the job halfway done last December, since we can now deposit into containers, how about fixing the other half?

- Add audit entries for corporate hangars / SMAs so you can see who took/deposited what.

- Add corporate tabs to the SMAs.

- Re-introduce the faction towers as BPC drops from exploration / loot / pirate faction stores. Make their recipes rely on taking an existing tower and then adding existing resources to it. Those resources needed should be a mix of moon-goo, PI products, gas mining, ores and salvage. Use it as a chance to slightly increase demand for the resources that nobody seems to want.

- Add a XL and XXL tower size option, which can only be anchored in low/null. Fuel consumption / PG / CPU / etc should be 2x and 4x that of the existing large tower. With the proliferation of super-caps, existing large towers are mere speed bumps.

- Add smaller SMA, which is about 1/4 the existing SMA size and lighter on PG/CPU usage.

- Add larger CHA variants (4M m3 and 10M m3) which are competitive with the LSAA on size vs PG/CPU usage.

- Change towers so that they unanchor if not fueled, but give owners the option to mothball towers where they only consume 10% of the normal fuel blocks per hour (but still consume charters at full rate). If you want to keep a tower at a moon, then you should need to fuel it regularly. At 10% rate, that means mothballed towers could run for 10 months or so, which is not that bad. Increase the warning time on tower fueling to 7-days instead of 1-day, with notifications starting as soon as 7-days prior to "out of fuel", but decrease interval to be only every 6 or 12 hours on the warning mails.

- Allow lab/array fees to be paid out of a personal wallet.

- Do something about gas silo mechanics where you have to hand out very sensitive roles to anyone who needs to manage the silos.

....err I was joking but okay :)

That's only a viable option if you finish fixing containers so that they work properly inside of CHAs.

You fixed containers in the November/December update last year so that we could finally deposit items into said containers, but we still have no way to pull items back out of the containers. Unless we grant "take container" to people, who then have to move the container to their ship, remove the item needed, then put the container back in the CHA.

Well, in regards to that, I'd have to give it back to the Devs, as i obviously don't know eve coding :)

That's why I think a requirement of the new PSH is that:

- When unanchored, it pops out jetcans named after each player who still had stuff within the PSH.
- When destroyed, it follows the usually drop rules (roughly 50% of the stacks drop, up to some limit)

By spawning jetcans, you give directors/CEOs a chance to collect everyone's loot and move it back out to k-space or to a set of containers (anchored or placed inside the CHA at the new location).

If lag is going to be an issue then you could:

- Only drop the first 50 member's containers (randomly picked)
- Change the PSH unanchor timer so that it takes 6 seconds per jetcan that needs to be spawned, need to empty something with 100 members? 600 second unachor time with jetcans popping out every 6 seconds

Frankly, they need to limit the total capacity of the PSH to about 2M m3 and each player gets a maximum of 27k m3. That would be enough that 75 people could use maximum capacity, or you could support 150-300 players if everyone isn't a packrat. Which also helps with the lag issue when you unanchor or destroy the unit and everyone's stuff comes tumbling out.

I can't go along with the main part of your post.

No one should ever have take access to your personal hanger, whether that be in a station, Outpost, or POS. If they want to include the ability for a director to be able to put things into a personal hanger (like they currently do in stations), that's fine.

It would be a different story if a POS or the personal hanger array itself could not be taken down while goods were in it, but that's not the case. You simply want to be able to access those items (that someone else owns) so that they don't go to waste... but that's not your responsibility. Not to mention the multitude of ways that a take mechanic could and absolutely would be exploited.

However your question about using BP's to build with from your personal hanger is an excellent one, as that could simplify a mechanic that is currently a bit of a pain in the butt.

Ok, this actually has some potential, an impound based on moon id so that future pos's put up with this mod keep the person's 'division' in it so that when you go back for your stuff but a new owner is there to negotiate with them to retrieve it... sure, lots of room for abuse in this, but it still leaves the option up to the individual that owns the stuff, and not the CEO of the orginal corp.

If you want this system to function properly, and get it in a timely fashion, KISS (keep it simple stupid).

There is nothing what so ever wrong with the items in a personal hanger being lost if the array is taken offline, and absolutely nothing wrong with those items dropping as loot in case of destuction.

These are the risks that SHOULD be associated with keeping personal items in a POS.

You guys are over thinking this.

Though perhaps give it high slots, but no turret or launcher hardpoints? so it can act as some sort of support?

You already face the potential of these issues with currently existing mods to one extent or another.