Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Oh lawd, somethings afk, man the harpoons, **** might get real if a cat walks across the keyboard and hits f1 to reveal its a cloak fitted Rifter.

A few shares wont let you change much

AFK cloackers never hurt anyone.

If you know it's a cyno bait, counter drop.

If you know it's a solo cloak ganker, bait him, kill it, pod it !! -put it in your watch list and follow him, bait him again, kill it and pod it again, make it get sick of whatever he's doing, give him a lesson.

Stop crying on forums about AFK cloakers please, if they are afk they can't harm you.

and what are you baiting with?


Most NON-afk cloak scouts and cynos tend to either get good at spotting bait, or develop mild paranoia. And the funny thing about paranoia...sometimes people are actually out to get you and you aren't imagining it lol.


If your uber bait ship happens to be a drone boat....kind of a no crapper they aren't taking it. Its a pita to solo them not gimping your fit with a cloak. I hate drone boats in web fit gun boats, replace guns with those awesome frigate killers known as torps and for some reason that hate doesn't turn to love lol.

Or is it draaaake? Take your pick, tanky as hell or a known top 10 bait ship in eve. And not even worth the aggravation of calliing in a cyno crew or carrier imo. Its a bc...they didn't fly in over 2 billion isk in ninjya ships with blop(s) to kill a damn bc.

Are you and your buddies making it obvious? They see a dictor about an hour ago head to system X and leave local (a good assumption he jumped out can be made). then another combaty ship with no real pve use follows. Now here you are heading to system x in a pimp pirate ratter and apparently jumping out too. That cloaky may be betting that dictor and hell...recon like rapier is chilling on the other side of that outbound. I'd say he is betting wisely.

If it's safer just move there and stop complaining. It's a player run content game, just play the dam game instead of playing with Barbies and Canes.

Yes good cloak hunters will not take the bait. But all are not so good.

This is the game trying to push them to take the bait. And it is a funny game.

There is other way to catch a cloaky ship not much with T3 .... All of these games are based on patience.

But how long will you wait to be sure that he knows it is a bait or that he is just afk and dindn't eve saw the bait? This is no more a game of patience but just a boring game.

This is the problem.

They really expect perfect safety with such minimal effort. They believe the game design intends this, despite the fact that the safest intended area of the game offers more risk.

There is a counter....local. It tells you when the cloaking ship first gets in system. With plenty of time to get safe, if you are paying attention. Local will tell you he is there for as long as he is there and when he leaves. You have very good information.

And the counter to local is....cloaking in system to mess with minds of people like you.

Move over a system. Rat with a few buddies and fit points and gear your tanks more for PvP if possible.

You are right. to fix the afk cloaky problem their should have many thing to change. I agree with that. this exactly what I am waiting for.

That is true That I give no solution. I have some ideas that I already exposed before.

I did not exposed them here because I want to point the problem and discuss about it before giving a solution.

My point is, if you go to the thread I and others have linked you'll see several things:

1. Lots and lots of suggestions, some often repeated ( some ad nauseam).
2. These complaints go back well before you and I started playing the game.
3. No solution has even been hinted at to-date.
4. No need to post here, as I've already done some work in collecting cloaking threads (and I periodically add more as I find them).