EVE General Discussion

I don't think that the "Resource Redistribution" mentioned for Odyssey is completely designed to promote exploration. I do have some ideas on what it could involve.

Moon Mining

I think that the real intent for this change are the Tech moons, which I don't believe is an issue but rather a strategic monopoly. For Resource Redistribution of moon mining, I think the worst change (for players) is to add a max quantity available in each moon. Each DT, all moon goo types that were depleted the previous day are redistributed amongst all mine-able moons. This would require corporations to scout out new supplies of moon goo every time they deplete a moon. This could make the most valuable moons worthless overnight, and worthless moons valuable.

Ore/Ice Mining

I think the real intent for this change is botting. The worst change is to remove static belts and make players scan down each belt. I think the best way to do this is to create a similar system as Sov Mining. Each constellation has X number of ore and Y number of ice belts. When one of these belts are depleted, a new one spawns somewhere in the constellation. With a mixed high and low sec constellation, this could cause all ore to be located in low sec. I also think that ice asteroids should be reduced significantly. The Industry career agent would need to be changed, remove some of the repetitive missions with exploration missions.

What is it with you and ninja mining? There is a mining frig thing, use it. I get getting into people's space and messing with them, but what the stuff, mining? Then what run it all the way back to high sec?

1. How many systems of Moons have you scanned?

2. There are ~500 Tech Moons* and ~265,000 mineable moons* in EVE. Assuming 30s per moon (incredibly conservative), and that everyone scanning moons shares information perfectly so there's no overlap(Haha), that's 2200 man hours of horrible work being inflicted on the playerbase every [period of time] (you chose: Day. You monster.).

3. Most small entities would not want a Tech moon popping up under their POS. They know it will get taken from them by a bigger entity well before the Tech output covers the value of the POS (if they even notice).

I can't believe you are actually excited about sneaking into someones space and mining. It would be like breaking into a house and stealing a bic pen out of their desk then giving yourself a hug about it.

Now listen carefully, Grasshopper: swarms come in all sorts of variety. There's your type of swarm of kids without a clue. There's swarms that fight like killer bees; and there's swarms of blowflies that lay eggs that eat their hosts inside out.

Ninja mining is the latter.

Blob meet the ultimate blob eater.

Not really, no. Technetium is as massively valuable as it is, because it is chokepoint resource. It is used in all production, but is available in small quantities. Unless through your resource refreshing, you drastically increased the amount of rarer moongoo resources present, you would only further greatly exacerbate the problem.

I'm talking about all out resource warfare.

One little parasite at a time about 10000001x a day.

Nibbling on ore by one swarm. Moon goo swarm on another. Exploration swarm on gas harvests.

There's no Orkin in space and three things that will always survive: roaches, ants and flies.



You can get rats anywhere, but moon goo/ABC ore/choice gas clouds are in null.

You know that as well.

If you can get your sister corps to mine the high-sec ore wholesale, well enterprising indys can launch their own...swarms.

And as you can personally understand, it adds up quick.

I used to argue with the WoW devs about their philosophy of switching comfort zones regularly, but I can truly see it's value in EvE.

This is the problem: you think XYZ is what indys just all want. If you're a ship builder you need mats that doesn't exist in high-sec (or even low-sec). High volume producers just buy the mats, but those who are being more self-sufficient and isk conscious, need small batches for their own supply.

And there's many more of them than high volume producers.

.... and no surprise, you're one of the "Minerals I mine are free" crowd. Explains so much.

Except it would be faster to dock up in all the stations in each system and check, in an entire constellation, than it would be to probe the moons in many single 0.0 systems.