Science & Industry

Yes. It is a declaration of war, or "wardec", followed by a day of AFK shooting in a capacitor stable laser ship (no tank) with T1 crystals that never wear out, and drones. A large pulse Apocalypse works well (it has a lot of capacitor).

Recently some friends took down a Caldari medium using 4 faction fit Coercers and one battleship. They moved shortly later though, as they were getting too many wardecs to operate. Moon was quickly taken by a 1 man corp and a small online Caldari tower. Location. Location. Location.

Prepare to have breakfast, lunch, and dinner watching those lazors. Or bring a lot of friends. It's no fun and I don't recommend it to anyone.

Puls fitted Dominix is also good at this.

isk sink.

Realistically towers should be hauled and impounded by concord. To deploy one in high sec, you have to buy charters to pay for the space. There's no way one of the factions would allow you to keep that space free of charge for years with an inactive tower.

Towers especially small and medium do not cost a lot of isk. If you need a tower you need to grind base standings just to be able to anchor it. maintaining 5.0 corp standings or up to 7.0 depending on this system you want to anchor in, is not as easy at you might think.

You can have a single character with the required standings, start a new corp, then anchor the tower. Easy yes, But once you bring others into the corp standings will almost always drop below the needed threshold. What happens if you no longer need the tower, but expect to need it again in the near future? Do you take it down, and go through all that trouble to re-anchor later, or do you just leave it? The price of most towers is small compared to the hassle of getting the needed corp standings. This is why most will just leave the tower anchored and off line.

Often times these towers get forgotten, or the accounts belonging to the players that anchored them go inactive. But most of the time they are simply left to hold the spot. Ia am not saying this is right but only that this is what is currently done in EVE.

For example I myself have both an active small tower I am using for research, and also an offline large tower anchored. I did not need a large tower at the time, but since I was going through the steps to build faction to anchor in a 0.7 system, and large towers are cheap I thought I might as well anchor one just in case I want to upgrade later. This trend has resulted in most desirable systems having no open moons. After all I had to work to take down dead towers to get the moons I now currently hold, so why should I give them up for free? It may not cost me anything to hold the moon with an offline tower, but It did cost me significant time to clear the previous tower in order to get that moon.

If you want a moon in a system where all the moons are taken, my advice is look for small offline towers. Of there are none you will have to go for a medium, but a small tower can be taken down fairly quickly with only 4 battleships. If you can bring 4 battleships averaging 1000DPS each (all gank no tank) which is fairly easy to do. With 4000 DPS you can take down a small offline tower in about an hour. A medium will take about 2 1/2 hours and a large about 5 hours. But you need to war dec the corp and wait 24 hours before you can attack. Plan out your attack and time the war dec so that you can attack as soon as possible after the war becomes valid. This will minimize their warning and response time. When picking a target you will want to try to maximize the chances that the pos belongs to a dead corp. do some research into the POSes owning corp, how many members, add the C.E.O. to your watch list. etc.

Another option is to contact to corp and offer them 50M to take the tower down. Why? well it will cost you 50M any way for the war dec, And giving it to them will save you the time grinding down the tower. If they do not reply then chances are it is a dead corp.

Bashing POSes is boring, and generally gives zero return in loot. This is why there are so many dead towers floating around. It is not worth the bother for anyone to bash them unless they need the moon. If you need a tower, even if you are a solo player and plan on it being a one man copr using the tower, how many accounts do you have? You will have trouble making a profit off a POS with a single character, even three characters on 1 account will not be able to fully use even a small tower. So how many characters/accounts that will be using the POS do you have available? hopefully at least 4. Each account need to be able to field at bear minimum a amarr ship with 8 large turrets, even if it is just an oracle. Fit want you need to make it cap stable and a full rack of 8 large pulse lasers. This will allow you a ship per account that will have unlimited ammo that can be left AFK shooting the tower when the time comes. It sucks but this is the best way to go. Any system with open moons are generally system either not worth having a POS in or the office rental fees are to high to be worth using.

You absolutely must have an office in the same system as your POS. It is easy to check if each POS owner in a system has an office. If you find a POS without a office belonging to the same corp in that system then you know if it is being used for research the BPO's are in the POS. this makes you and your POS war targets as the BPO's in your POS could make the POS bash worthwhile. There are many systems within 8 jumps of Jita where you can get an office for under 1M per month. I am currently paying between 300,000-400,000 isk and am less than 8 jumps from Jita. But I had to clear POSes to get the moons I now hold.

I was really thinking along quite simple lines with my suggestion. The problem is that offline corps take up too many moons, and it seems to be a huge time and money sink to clear them. Impounding of the POS would be an effective way of removing this issue without having to change the way the corp system currently works. If you go inactive while renting an office for example, anything in it gets impounded until you pay a release fee.

In the same way, the POS should be impounded if you haven't kept paying the owner of the space for the rights to use their space. This should then be retrievable by the corp if they come back by paying a release fee.

I understand that some people are not inactive and hold moons to hold the space, but this wouldn't be required if many of the moons weren't taken up by inactive corps.

Well the examples "place holder to sell the moon" and "logistical positioning to keep others from anchoring" are both invalid, since it's not your space. Why would the Caldari for example allow you to block other people from using their moons with an inactive POS that earns them nothing?

I'm not in any way saying that every offline POS should be taken down. I'm saying you should have to pay your licence to keep your pos anchored even if it is offline. This way, you can't hold a moon for eternity with an offline POS that costs you nothing to keep there.

This also makes more sense, as the owner of the space is losing revenue from you holding that POS offline. If you had to pay your licence fee regardless, the space holder wouldn't care as long as they are getting paid.

I’m perfectly happy with losing a moon to an active corp that wants to use the moon, but losing it to someone that is inactive, or that wants to hold the moon just to stop others using it is hardly fair.

Is this some kind of serious response or a joke?
Paying 50 million and wasting a day to shoot down and POS someone placed 3 years ago before they stopped playing is a ridiculous waste of effort. If you don't understand that then clearly you don't value your time.

I've said I have no issue with wardeccing an active corp to remove a POS that is in my way, but there is simply no point in having a system that means you have to war dec inactive corps.
and due to the nature of high sec, the high sec factions are losing income from moons that are being held by inactive corps, so it doesn't even make any RP sense.

Yes, I'm actually aware of the whole "life isn't fair" thing. Much like a large amount of EVE Players I am in fact an adult. That doesn't mean that everything has to stay the way it is. I think if this went to a general player vote, you'd find the majority couldn't care less either way, then many people would be pro the idea of removing inactive POSes in High Sec, then the minority would disagree.

PS: If you don't actually have anything constructive to add to the post, such as your reasoning for disagreeing or an alternative idea, then there's no real need to post.

There's no tears here, its called a discussion, and its what adults do when they have 2 opposing points of view.
You don't seem to have a point of view though, you are just here to troll. You aren't adding anything constructive and you clearly misinterpret the point.
I have several moons in prime locations, and am happy with them, so I don't need to find another. The point is however that with moons being held by inactive accounts, they will eventually run out in high sec. At some point, CCP will have make a change, its an inevitability. It may be that with the introduction of Dust and Planetary Conquest, high sec planets and their moons will be passed to player ownership, who knows.

I'm well aware it's an issue that's been around for a very long time and there have been numerous discussions about it. I'm hardly a new kid on the block. I also post from my main...