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The Venn diagram of bollo... err, irrational nonsense
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#1 - 2013-03-29 11:11:17 UTC
Amazingly comprehensive and quite funny:

Venn diagram of bollocks

I abosolutely LOVE how scientology has got everything in it... L. Ron Hubbard was a true genius! Lol
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#2 - 2013-03-29 11:23:54 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Amazingly comprehensive and quite funny:

Venn diagram of bollocks

I abosolutely LOVE how scientology has got everything in it... L. Ron Hubbard was a true genius! Lol



That's hilarious.

The only discrepancy might be the inclusion of aromatherapy.

Although it is most indeed not 'medical therapy', pleasant, and unpleasant, odors can most indeed be mood changers and cause a reaction.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#3 - 2013-03-29 11:29:14 UTC
Scientology is and will always be considered as one big but legal scam IMO.

And it is also an insult to both science and religion.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#4 - 2013-03-29 11:30:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Amazingly comprehensive and quite funny:

Venn diagram of bollocks

I abosolutely LOVE how scientology has got everything in it... L. Ron Hubbard was a true genius! Lol



That's hilarious.

The only discrepancy might be the inclusion of aromatherapy.

Although it is most indeed not 'medical therapy', pleasant, and unpleasant, odors can most indeed be mood changers and cause a reaction.


That's not what aromatherapy claims.

The whole "bad odour" thing lies on a very elementary aSSumption by our silly brains: "some things that are bad smell bad, thus bad smell is bad in itself". Aromatherapy claims further that some good odours are good in themseslves.

Err... that's a NO, period.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#5 - 2013-03-29 11:39:06 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Scientology is and will always be considered as one big but legal scam IMO.

And it is also an insult to both science and religion.


Its legal status is moot in many European countries, actually. France is notorious for having considered it a cult and fining them over unsupported claims deemed to be fraud.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#6 - 2013-03-29 12:33:01 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Scientology is and will always be considered as one big but legal scam IMO.

And it is also an insult to both science and religion.


Its legal status is moot in many European countries, actually. France is notorious for having considered it a cult and fining them over unsupported claims deemed to be fraud.


Seems like we can learn from France then :)

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#7 - 2013-03-29 13:16:23 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Amazingly comprehensive and quite funny:

Venn diagram of bollocks

I abosolutely LOVE how scientology has got everything in it... L. Ron Hubbard was a true genius! Lol



That's hilarious.

The only discrepancy might be the inclusion of aromatherapy.

Although it is most indeed not 'medical therapy', pleasant, and unpleasant, odors can most indeed be mood changers and cause a reaction.


That's not what aromatherapy claims.

The whole "bad odour" thing lies on a very elementary aSSumption by our silly brains: "some things that are bad smell bad, thus bad smell is bad in itself". Aromatherapy claims further that some good odours are good in themseslves.

Err... that's a NO, period.



This I know.

I'm just saying that smells can affect emotion and can invoke sense memories. THAT has been proven.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#8 - 2013-03-29 13:17:06 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Scientology is and will always be considered as one big but legal scam IMO.

And it is also an insult to both science and religion.


Its legal status is moot in many European countries, actually. France is notorious for having considered it a cult and fining them over unsupported claims deemed to be fraud.


Seems like we can learn from France then :)



You mean finally something else besides cooking ? Lol

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#9 - 2013-03-29 13:21:14 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Scientology is and will always be considered as one big but legal scam IMO.

And it is also an insult to both science and religion.


Its legal status is moot in many European countries, actually. France is notorious for having considered it a cult and fining them over unsupported claims deemed to be fraud.


Seems like we can learn from France then :)



You mean finally something else besides cooking ? Lol


Yeah and the Metric system P

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#10 - 2013-03-29 13:29:49 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Scientology is and will always be considered as one big but legal scam IMO.

And it is also an insult to both science and religion.


Its legal status is moot in many European countries, actually. France is notorious for having considered it a cult and fining them over unsupported claims deemed to be fraud.


Seems like we can learn from France then :)



You mean finally something else besides cooking ? Lol


Yeah and the Metric system P



Um.....believe me, America did not learn from that at all.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#11 - 2013-03-29 14:25:33 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Scientology is and will always be considered as one big but legal scam IMO.

And it is also an insult to both science and religion.


Its legal status is moot in many European countries, actually. France is notorious for having considered it a cult and fining them over unsupported claims deemed to be fraud.


Seems like we can learn from France then :)



You mean finally something else besides cooking ? Lol


Yeah and the Metric system P

And spirits. Calvados and wine and cognac and...


A number of the things listed under various flavors of bollocks have some limited provable efficacy, but have been taken to ridiculous extremes, making them generally bollocks despite underlying facts. For example, Rh-typing and personality types. Didn't see this on the list, but some Asian cultures have made a whole pseudoscience (including completely ignoring the discovery dates and inventing whole new (false) timelines!) about Rh-types and personality, as fully full of shite as astrology. All that despite the fact that Rh-typing is real and has valid medical importance.

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Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
#12 - 2013-03-29 14:27:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Cynter DeVries
Another item that probably doesn't belong on the diagram is acupuncture. Modern science has actually shown that acupuncture can successfully mitigate pain response in many cases. http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v13/n7/full/nn.2562.html

While what acupuncture calls "Qi" may have no scientific basis (in part it is electrical flow and in part it is cellular metabolism, but claims of its character go far beyond what we know of either electricity or metabolism), that doesn't mean that acupuncture is complete bunk.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#13 - 2013-03-29 14:43:04 UTC
Cynter DeVries wrote:
Another item that probably doesn't belong on the diagram is acupuncture. Modern science has actually shown that acupuncture can successfully mitigate pain response in many cases. http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v13/n7/full/nn.2562.html

While what acupuncture calls "Qi" may have no scientific basis (in part it is electrical flow and in part it is cellular metabolism, but claims of its character go far beyond what we know of either electricity or metabolism), that doesn't mean that acupuncture is complete bunk.
Exactly.

Accupuncture is one of the things where actual thereputic efficacy has been drowned in bullshite claims. Chiropracty is another - There is verifiable thereputic benefit to chiropractic practice. It's just a LOT less efficacious than many proponents will claim.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#14 - 2013-03-29 14:51:02 UTC
I believe that Qi (Chi) is real, though. From doing martial arts, and also from hunting and being around wildlife. Example of chi: How is it that you notice that somebody behind you is looking at you? The person can be completely silent, but you feel the presence clearly and you look back.

I used to take smoke breaks on an external fire escape in Manhattan. It was 9 floors up and kind of hidden in the shade between two buildings. If I stared intently at people walking by below, they'd look up toward me. They could be walking head-down and daydreaming, or on a cell phone, just shuffling along in their own world. But they'd suddenly look up and to the side at my spot 100 ft. away and 9 stories up. My explanation is chi awareness. Any other theories on that?
jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#15 - 2013-03-29 14:57:24 UTC
hearasay ...bloody hearasy QI is a bloody good and funney BBC programme !
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2013-03-29 15:04:15 UTC
silens vesica wrote:

And spirits. Calvados and wine and cognac and...





Chartreuse. Smile

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#17 - 2013-03-29 15:09:45 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I believe that Qi (Chi) is real, though. From doing martial arts, and also from hunting and being around wildlife. Example of chi: How is it that you notice that somebody behind you is looking at you? The person can be completely silent, but you feel the presence clearly and you look back.
I practice TaiJi and Xing Yi. There is *something* there. Couldn't qauntify it, nor make it show on any instrument that *I* can name... So it's not "Science." But there *is* something, subjectively, there. Absolutely.

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Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-03-29 15:35:52 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I believe that Qi (Chi) is real, though. From doing martial arts, and also from hunting and being around wildlife. Example of chi: How is it that you notice that somebody behind you is looking at you? The person can be completely silent, but you feel the presence clearly and you look back.

I used to take smoke breaks on an external fire escape in Manhattan. It was 9 floors up and kind of hidden in the shade between two buildings. If I stared intently at people walking by below, they'd look up toward me. They could be walking head-down and daydreaming, or on a cell phone, just shuffling along in their own world. But they'd suddenly look up and to the side at my spot 100 ft. away and 9 stories up. My explanation is chi awareness. Any other theories on that?

That would also explain how the wait-staff in some of the restaurants I've been to know exactly how not to look at people trying to get their attention.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#19 - 2013-03-29 15:54:49 UTC
Noriko Satomi wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I believe that Qi (Chi) is real, though. From doing martial arts, and also from hunting and being around wildlife. Example of chi: How is it that you notice that somebody behind you is looking at you? The person can be completely silent, but you feel the presence clearly and you look back.

I used to take smoke breaks on an external fire escape in Manhattan. It was 9 floors up and kind of hidden in the shade between two buildings. If I stared intently at people walking by below, they'd look up toward me. They could be walking head-down and daydreaming, or on a cell phone, just shuffling along in their own world. But they'd suddenly look up and to the side at my spot 100 ft. away and 9 stories up. My explanation is chi awareness. Any other theories on that?

That would also explain how the wait-staff in some of the restaurants I've been to know exactly how not to look at people trying to get their attention.

Damn. Shocked
I'd never thought of that. Which means France must be the nation with the highest percentage of paranormal-capable persons in teh world. Who knew?

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#20 - 2013-03-29 15:56:51 UTC
Noriko Satomi wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I believe that Qi (Chi) is real, though. From doing martial arts, and also from hunting and being around wildlife. Example of chi: How is it that you notice that somebody behind you is looking at you? The person can be completely silent, but you feel the presence clearly and you look back.

I used to take smoke breaks on an external fire escape in Manhattan. It was 9 floors up and kind of hidden in the shade between two buildings. If I stared intently at people walking by below, they'd look up toward me. They could be walking head-down and daydreaming, or on a cell phone, just shuffling along in their own world. But they'd suddenly look up and to the side at my spot 100 ft. away and 9 stories up. My explanation is chi awareness. Any other theories on that?

That would also explain how the wait-staff in some of the restaurants I've been to know exactly how not to look at people trying to get their attention.

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