Out of Pod Experience

I hope CCP devs extract something useful from this.

Clones and SP lost after death. I've dabbled in PVP and had a real go at faction warfare in the last few weeks. However, being a PVP noob I routinely die and lose the occasional pod. On two occasions I've forgotten to update my clone after death and I've now been set back 20+ days in training. Is this feature necessary? After death, I expect most pilots will be eager to re-enter the fight but forget to fulfill this arbitrary mechanic. Is this isk-sink worthwhile at the expense of disheartened subscribers who leave?

At this point I'm looking at almost a month of re-training. Since this may happen again, I just don't want to put up with this risk.

I got the most expensive clone you can get.
It will take me at least 10 years before I get there, but its better to do that than forget about it in 7 years.

so in essence, you're quitting because your actions [or, inaction] have consequences and that upsets you?

i certainly did.
losing mining barge V as a miner really hurts.

Keeping your clone up to date is pretty basic. My clones are over 30 mil, and when I die I can count on another 200 mil in implants going down on top of that. Happens all too often. (in fact I lost both my main pod and my #1 alt's ninja looting during that luminare caldari event... totally didn't make up for the loss even with the 1.2 bil scam I pulled that day in the same sys) I don't care about your cry baby ways. I know a lot of pods that burn through redonkulous ISK because they don't care and they never learn. ....but losing SP? That's a special kind of mistake.

Stop f'ing it up. Keep your clone up to date, and make sure your respawn station has medical. If you can't do that than Mario Cart is the way to go. In EvE, you have bigger problems than clones or you're doing it wrong. (I'll admit I made 60 bil in mistakes just on the market in 2012... and youre worried about clones?! GTFO! lol!)

I think you need to stick to games like WOW and STO and other mainstream MMOs with low learning curves, this is Eve Online. It is a brutal hard unforgiving game. Only those who can adapt can make it in this game. Since 2003 I have made mistakes and lost SPs and assets but you learn and come out stronger and wiser.

I think the OP is right.
If updating your clone is something that you ALWAYS do every single time you die, and the consequences of forgetting it are potentially devastating, why even bother with this mechanic instead of just having it automated?

Yeah, I know, EVE is hardcore, blah blah blah....but this is one of those "hardcore" mechanics that add nothing to gameplay value and will ultimately affect newer players (who may forget to upgrade their clones) more than the vets.

In my opinion, the endgame should be "hardcore" and unforgiving, but redundant game mechanics that more or less just p*ss off newbies are bad for the game and bad for new player retention.

Woah, a whole 20 days!

Sissi ...


You should read your own words. You basically ADMIT that you're a moron,
because you leave as there's a good chance that it'll happen again !
Which would be your own fault ! Again !

Woah ... GTFO !

Because when you have a high number of SP then losing your clone isn't trivial as it costs a fair amount of isk.

I think it would be interesting if players actually lost their SP all the time in the event of a pod death. Perhaps just a small amount, but enough to make people think twice before committing their pod to a suicidial action.

If this were to be implemented then perhaps pod killing would have to become more difficult though to compensate, perhaps make pods warp stabbed and able to escape bubbles. I'm not saying this should be implemented, but am just interested in the idea and what it would mean for eve gameplay. I think it may possibly improve it, I never liked the idea of people suiciding their pods to travel.

Clones do have a cost, are you asking for a mechanic that spends your ISK for you?