EVE General Discussion

I believe CCP has an excellent plan for the future of Eve in conjunction with Dust 514.

Dust 514 will be a first-person shooter for the PS3. It is essentially a game about mercenaries. We as Eve players will be able to create contracts with Dust players to either a.) attack planet installations, or b.) defend planet installation (There may be other uses, but this is as far as I have gone so far.)

What installations are we talking about? Well PI of course.

That is right, in the near future you will have to pay to keep your cozy planets secure.

Now here is an interesting point, sort of a big picture look at how this works.

A lot of people have asked why PI is so easy, safe, overpowered. CCP has made it this way to encourage a rapid growth of PI installation across the galaxy. Whenever we set up a new planet with PI we are essentially creating another "level" for Dust players to play on.

Think about how many planets with PI are spread throughout the galaxy right now? Through our efforts we will have created an endless amount of levels for Dust players to fight on.

Now for how this saves Eve.

Each and every Dust purchase becomes a GIANT advertisement for Eve online.

At least a portion of Dust players will become curious about this mysterious Eve game for the computer. Some players may find that they want to try giving the orders instead of taking them. This will cause an influx of new players to Eve. Conversely there will be an influx of Eve players going to Dust. Muahahaha on CCP's part. Genius!

I am guessing that corporations between Dust and Eve will be linked (as in the same corp) which would mean you can fatten your Eve wallet by doing some assault missions in Dust. (This is an excellent opportunity to use your children as ISK farmers)

Dust will also provide an excellent ISK sink in keeping colonies alive. I imagine this will also translate into higher prices for PI materials. (Good for me as a PI industrialist)

-Mal Mandrake

DUST 514 is going to sink CCP, it will not compete in the world of console shooters. It will have a population of a couple thousand players who happen to be EVE players who own a PS3.

What happens to DUST 514 and EVE a year after its launch, when BF5 and CoD13 launch?

If CCP think they can compete with all the others out there with their years and years of experience at FPS with just the added gimmick of being somewhat interactive with the EVE universe then they are playing with their giggly bits.

I cannot see it being anything other than a failure.

Console FPS players are generally ADHD stricken teenagers, or adults looking for some drop in - drop out fun. The complexity of a persistent MMO-style FPS will be completely lost on the console crowd and has only even been moderately successful with the PC crowd.

Also I don't own a PS3 but just offhand Resistance and Killzone are PS3 exclusive sci-fi shooters, not to mention Planetside 2 in developement...

Well the tie in deal with Sony could prove to be a clever plan. Sony could promote this as The Game to play.
While I agree that the FPS are normally drop in, drop out, the very fact that this is persistent could attract considerable interest.
I would love the option of flying a Battleship (fitted for orbital bombardment) to a planet to "help" out. That could raise considerable interest in lo-sec.
..and how about t2 Planetary interaction. Colonies, expensive installations that yield considerable passive tax isk, but are subject to hostile takeovers by Dust players; again would tie the games together well.
Personally I am very optimistic at the possibilities here; but we shall have to wait and see if CCP delivers :)

Sony is developing Planetside 2, a direct competitor to DUST514.

If Dust is at least as good an FPS as the others, then it has something they do not, a persistent, and dynamic world where their actions have meaning beyond some kill board or ranking system. Dust will of course compete for the trigger happy dopamine crowd, but its core target audience are those who want play have more meaning and value in the experience.

In the real world, in combat, you care more about your buddies, you really don't give a crap about the larger political issues, something about not being able to respawn in real life plays a part here. But in an FPS, a game, where you can respawn forever, something else needs to matter beyond just your buddies. Something to loose makes the experience better for some. For those that want this, and are FPS dopamine addicts, Dust will fill that need.

I'm not saying CCP has a sure fire winner, but they are filling a gap in the market and in many ways, filling that gap first, and that is a considerable advantage.

If I have any complaint about it, it's not on PC.

Why do you gotta ruin a thread full of civil conversation?

It is possible to make a post with a dissenting opinion without being a jerk.

If you consider it a bad thread then move on.

Isn't CCP Shanghai doing the Dust side of things?
Why can't they keep working on Dust?

u don't know that, BF2MC had a good fanbase on the original xbox for years... the only issue atm is PS3 is a bad market for shooters it already has lots of exclusives + shooters dont sell well on PS3.

anyways, if dust is a good shooter it will be a great success, we don't know how it will end up until a demo or the full game comes out.