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Should CCP Remove Fon Revedhort from the CSM Election?

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Sidus Sarmiang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#201 - 2013-03-30 02:04:53 UTC
I think Fon's unique perspective would benefit the CSM. Shaking things up a bit might even lead CCP to a Golden Dawn of creativity and inspiration.
Hustomte
Veritex Industrial Inc.
#202 - 2013-03-30 02:05:03 UTC
Rythm wrote:
Newsflash - they are not. I bet you cannot lift as much as Schwarzenegger in his best years or run as fast as most of the Kenyans or i dont know is not smarter than Sir Isaak Newton.

Newsflash - Eugenics has long been disproven countless times.

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#203 - 2013-03-30 02:06:17 UTC
Rythm wrote:
So far I've seen only a bunch of statements made up by goon forum squad

If you think they have been "made up" then I suggest you watch the video in his CSM8 candidacy thread (you'll know it by the white-power music and 14/88 references and Klan symbols).

Since you can't honestly be dumb enough to not see that, I put forth you're trolling. And, frankly, find something better to troll about because there is actually an issue here that needs discussing.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#204 - 2013-03-30 02:08:16 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Go watch the video posted by Fon Revedhort in the very first post of his thread for CSM 8 candidacy. It's quite full of references to White Nationalism (Celtic cross, 14/88 signifying the words "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children" and "Heil ******", neo-**** music, etc.) and other neo-**** ideologies. This isn't something goons or anyone else made up.

I might also add that Fon hasn't denied any of this, to my knowledge, and pretty much all record of his postings on the subject has been eliminated due to Falcon (among other forum moderators) so it's a little tough there to verify that the posts brought up by Goons are actually his in truth, but given what we know it doesn't seem particularly unlikely..

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#205 - 2013-03-30 02:08:44 UTC  |  Edited by: rodyas
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Go watch the video posted by Fon Revedhort in the very first post of his thread for CSM 8 candidacy. It's quite full of references to White Nationalism (Celtic cross, 14/88 signifying the words "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children" and "Heil ******", neo-**** music, etc.) and other neo-**** ideologies. This isn't something goons or anyone else made up.


I was there!!!!!

EVE is real!

Is this a bad time to use game slogans?

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Rythm
True Power Team
#206 - 2013-03-30 02:21:34 UTC
Hustomte wrote:
Rythm wrote:
Newsflash - they are not. I bet you cannot lift as much as Schwarzenegger in his best years or run as fast as most of the Kenyans or i dont know is not smarter than Sir Isaak Newton.

Newsflash - Eugenics has long been disproven countless times.


Oh really.
Short historical discourse for you.
Chukchi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chukchi_people) were extremely war-like and aggressive people. When Russian Empire moved to the Far East they posed a great obstacle. Maybe they could've stopped Russian expansion alltogether since Empire could not commit enough manpower to overcome them, if only... Exactly. They lack a gene needed for the alchohol consumption. So a first booze trader who moved in spelled doom on their resistance.
Same for some native indian tribes of US.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#207 - 2013-03-30 02:23:50 UTC
Except none of that matters to any part of this discussion.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Rythm
True Power Team
#208 - 2013-03-30 02:24:42 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Rythm wrote:
So far I've seen only a bunch of statements made up by goon forum squad

If you think they have been "made up" then I suggest you watch the video in his CSM8 candidacy thread (you'll know it by the white-power music and 14/88 references and Klan symbols).

Since you can't honestly be dumb enough to not see that, I put forth you're trolling. And, frankly, find something better to troll about because there is actually an issue here that needs discussing.

The video was released after goonsquad harped on 14/88 theme for like 20 pages a year ago. Though I admit that Fon totally fails as politician by putting it up without proper context, but gets points as a person and a player for being honest and not attempting to sweep anything under rag like the mittani who recently posted about his fanfest failure that its totally blown out of context and that he did not do anything wrong.
Richard Bong
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#209 - 2013-03-30 02:31:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Bong
Rythm wrote:
So far I've seen only a bunch of statements made up by goon forum squad



So the David Duke quotes, other posts, and interview are fake because you showed up to the party late?

[ASK] Me about drive by thread shitting!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#210 - 2013-03-30 02:31:24 UTC
Irrelevant comparisons aside, he has again not denied (that I've seen) any allegations of racism, nor has any of his campaign material given any impression that he doesn't hold such beliefs.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Succendus Tegimens
Hey Fatty With Your Thick Face
#211 - 2013-03-30 02:35:03 UTC
Fon has many bad qualities. He tries far too hard to appear intelligent, for example. Spending lots of money on those ten-dollar words doesn't help the wallet. He deflects criticism with claims that it's "spam" and "trolls." His interview with Xander was just absolutely atrocious.

Oh, right, and he also advocates for racial segregation because he's a white supremacist.
Rythm
True Power Team
#212 - 2013-03-30 02:39:30 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Irrelevant comparisons aside, he has again not denied (that I've seen) any allegations of racism, nor has any of his campaign material given any impression that he doesn't hold such beliefs.

Honestly given that
- goonsquad has a proven track record of racist and 1488 statements
- the anti-fon campaign is driven by goons
I smell a conspiracy and believe that no amount of statements will do any good.
In the interview Fon tried to say that he treats all people with respect as long as they do not try to impose their rules in his own home, which i believe is pretty reasonable. If say my aunt will come and tell me that from now on she lives in my place and will start to eat my brain out every day, she'd be promptly shown the door. And what - that tart xander ended up screaming like a little girl how he hates fon and his racism.
Succendus Tegimens
Hey Fatty With Your Thick Face
#213 - 2013-03-30 02:42:24 UTC
Does the Power in True Power Team stand for White Power? Because that's what it seems to stand for.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#214 - 2013-03-30 02:44:12 UTC
Well I can't download the interview because the hosting there is pretty terrible. So I'm afraid I can't comment on that.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#215 - 2013-03-30 02:47:10 UTC
rythm can't really accuse us of being racist when he has personally posted racist statements on these forums and somehow remains able to post

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Frying Doom
#216 - 2013-03-30 02:47:56 UTC
Rythm wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
CCP is not under any obligation to preserve the right of players or community representative candidates to express extremist views on race and ethnicity. However for the CSM which is a multinational and likely multi-ethnic advisory and representative body it's in both CCP's and their customers' best interests to foster an environment where everyone is accorded the same voice and level of respect regardless of factors such as race. Someone who repeatedly demonstrates intolerance towards these differences cannot be allowed to serve on the CSM, and as such there's no point in allowing them to run in the election for the CSM either.

So far I've seen only a bunch of statements made up by goon forum squad.
Even that turd xander had to cut the interview short and scream on the top of his lungs - i hate you racist beast since you told that people are not equal. Newsflash - they are not. I bet you cannot lift as much as Schwarzenegger in his best years or run as fast as most of the Kenyans or i dont know is not smarter than Sir Isaak Newton.

Ooohh does that make me a Goon alt again?

But I do agree no one is equal to anyone else and it is those differences we need to celebrate.

No one person or race is universally better at everything than any other, everyone even the mentally handicapped have their abilities that are greater than others.

As to Aryan supremacy I think the 1936 Olympics and WWII proved the fallacy of a master race.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Rythm
True Power Team
#217 - 2013-03-30 02:51:17 UTC
Andski wrote:
rythm can't really accuse us of being racist when he has personally posted racist statements on these forums and somehow remains able to post

point me to them mr "dont petition blue bot".
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#218 - 2013-03-30 02:53:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Rythm wrote:
Andski wrote:
rythm can't really accuse us of being racist when he has personally posted racist statements on these forums and somehow remains able to post

point me to them mr "dont petition blue bot".

http://eve-search.com/search/author/Rythm

they're all over so it shouldn't be hard

seeing as i can't really repost them without losing my ability to post, well, that's about as much as i can help

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Rythm
True Power Team
#219 - 2013-03-30 02:53:30 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

As to Aryan supremacy I think the 1936 Olympics and WWII proved the fallacy of a master race.


Lies. The Indian offshore developers are proudly carrying The Aryan Supremacy flag into XXI century =)
Look at their sales figures if in doubt =)
Succendus Tegimens
Hey Fatty With Your Thick Face
#220 - 2013-03-30 02:54:03 UTC
Rythm wrote:
Even that turd xander had to cut the interview short and scream on the top of his lungs - i hate you racist beast since you told that people are not equal. Newsflash - they are not. I bet you cannot lift as much as Schwarzenegger in his best years or run as fast as most of the Kenyans or i dont know is not smarter than Sir Isaak Newton.


Spoiler alert: that's racist.