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[Security] Miniluv: Goonswarm Federation High Sec White List

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Agent Trask
Doomheim
#101 - 2013-04-04 22:45:15 UTC
Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian wrote:

Well it is kinda ironic. Shooting throw away suicide alts, is nearly as futile as what you do to miners, and utterly cowardly.
But hey i'd rather have your names on kill-records then johnny miner anyday.


I live to serve! Here is hoping to see you in the ice belts.

I will continue to do the hard work of cleaning ice-dependent mining hobos out of highsec, regardless.

Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.

www.minerbumping.com

Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2013-04-05 08:24:29 UTC
Agent Trask wrote:


I welcome miniluv's new highsec government initiative.

Remember, carebears, paying the New Order's 10m ISK/month fee does not exempt you from the attention of miniluv!




Last time I checked, it was 10mil/year. A mistake on your side?
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2013-04-05 08:30:48 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Bane Veradun wrote:
Is the moon goo trust fund running low? Or is the rest of New Eden not paying enough attention to the goons?

actually it is more like GOONS now hold all the space they want. they have no need of more. So since nobody is invading them, they are bored.
What better activity for a bored GOON then high sec ganking and scamming.

I would expect though that they will honor this white list as the majority of freighter pilots and miners are not on it. Considering all they do is set you to +5 standing if you are on the list and set you to -5 if you stop paying, it is not like they need to check the list for a name every time they gank a freighter. Just don't gank the blues.

This is definitely an isk making scheme, but not one where they will gank those on the list. Look at it more like paying protection fees to the mob, they are not actually protecting you, just not targeting you. pay the fee the goons will leave you alone. However the GOONS are not the only threat to a freighter. the Marmite Collective seem to have a very similar set up. And there are many others jumping on the bandwagon. I have even seen the Marmite Collective and GOONS going after the same targets basically fighting over it to see who gets credit for the kill.


If you mean when the goons are bumping freighters in uedama? we've often considered to just bring all our neut logi out there and rep the **** of them. Else it's just because we wanna loot whore.

However since we decced goons we haven't seen a freighter gank in uedama or the surroundings. I may very well be wrong, but if you intend to pay protection money to the goons, you might aswell just pay it to us instead. Goons ain't gonna try and gank with the risk of people fighting them.

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.comĀ 

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#104 - 2013-04-05 09:28:54 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
I don't care who does what and where. We re not here to safe the world.....and beyond.... But if you re making profit in our area, we want to see isks. And when you get on one of our kills, we want isks. And if you want to **** in high sec, we want isks. And when you say the word high sec again, we want..... think you get my point. Twisted

New order <3 ...... they speak our language.
Goons ...... still need to learn our language (even if they turn out to be the same players P)



New Order isn't a Goon operation, although it definitely has Goonswarm involvement.

I both supply the NO and occasionally kill miners, and am -5 to GSF. Were I to join a NS alliance, it probaly wouldn't be the Goons.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Ivan Ward
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2013-04-05 09:49:07 UTC
Zeus Maximo wrote:
motgus wrote:
[quote=Zeus Maximo]


[quote=Powers Sa]The only relevant part of your alliance is Freight Club.


You sure thought this one through before you spoke. They arent in our alliance...




And there aren't anything relevant in your alliance then.

"Hot pilots we have problems too, we're just like you."

Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#106 - 2013-04-05 10:02:18 UTC
If someone is hiding from you, i garantee you they are all found in Khanid..
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#107 - 2013-04-05 11:43:05 UTC
Freight Club joined a very nice alliance......guess.... Twisted

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Agent Trask
Doomheim
#108 - 2013-04-06 16:09:56 UTC
Sola Mercury wrote:
Agent Trask wrote:


I welcome miniluv's new highsec government initiative.

Remember, carebears, paying the New Order's 10m ISK/month fee does not exempt you from the attention of miniluv!




Last time I checked, it was 10mil/year. A mistake on your side?


Sorry, yes. A Freudian slip there.

James 315 is way too lenient to miners in my opinion. But he IS the leader, so I must rein in my greed and obey.

Thank you for pointing this error out.

Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.

www.minerbumping.com

Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#109 - 2013-04-07 12:40:58 UTC
I see your great reach havent reached Khanid yet. Twisted
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#110 - 2013-04-08 23:54:54 UTC
Agent Trask wrote:
Sola Mercury wrote:
Agent Trask wrote:


I welcome miniluv's new highsec government initiative.

Remember, carebears, paying the New Order's 10m ISK/month fee does not exempt you from the attention of miniluv!




Last time I checked, it was 10mil/year. A mistake on your side?


Sorry, yes. A Freudian slip there.

James 315 is way too lenient to miners in my opinion. But he IS the leader, so I must rein in my greed and obey.

Thank you for pointing this error out.

Ye hath nigh disfavoured the code.
The fee does not protect against thou's ganks merely against...
well nothing actually, save maybst a full wallet.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#111 - 2013-04-09 07:05:24 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
How much ISK to be put on the Goons black list? Lol

or lol better yet how much ISK 'deposti' to put others on the Goons Minilub black list TwistedEvilP
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Xayder
modro
The Initiative.
#112 - 2013-04-09 09:25:15 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
How much ISK to be put on the Goons black list? Lol

or lol better yet how much ISK 'deposti' to put others on the Goons Minilub black list TwistedEvilP


why that hate Sad

go run insursions and buy toonies for your momies with iskies

I don't always post, But when i post I do it with my main

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#113 - 2013-04-09 15:53:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
Seraphin Foad wrote:
One day I will be allowed to post what is actually happening and how it went down, until that day I'm going to keep it in my notepads and await a time when little goon boys and girls want to hear about how empire fell to the might of the Goonswarm Federation and their CFC allies.

You'll see why this is all taking place months maybe even a year from now, look back at it like the 100b+ scams of old, realize how insignificant it is and wish you were a goon just to be part of it. Until then, please spam your theories, I love to read them.

I watched the Soprano's after being likened to a Mafia figure, I'm pretty insulted, I'm a lot more organized than these fat old men.

I have considered joining the GOONS on occasion. I believe I do meet the qualifications. I do respect the GOONS for what they do and have accomplished. Although I do occasionally disagree with them. I just do not have the time currently to spend in game to contribute to an Alliance. if I was to join the goons I would seek to be a contributor not just a grunt. Perhaps when my kids get a little older I will have more time. I love the meta game you guys play and how you manipulate EVE with nobody knowing what is going on until it is to late. I would love to be a part of it, but as I said, my time is far to limited.

Although it was game breaking, the big scam pulled off with the Faction Wars changes was awesome. I do not believe CCP was right to seize all the assets gained in that endeavor. But the many trillions of isk made, would have created an imbalance if left in the hands of the GOONS. However it was due to CP's mistake that it was all possible. They gave the goons the tools to pull it off, then punished them for being innovative with those tools. That I do not agree with.

I am really looking forward to seeing the outcome of current endeavors, and trying to figure out where it is heading before it becomes obvious. Good luck to you and all the goons. I know even though I am not involved, it will be entertaining.

I do find it odd that of all the MMO's you guys play, EVE seems to be the only one where the focus goes beyond simply ruining the game for other players. I do think what is done in startrek online is hilarious. Stupid ERPers, the one thing I believe not moving forward with WiS will avoid for EVE. I just really hope the ultimate plan does not involve breaking the greatest MMO we have to play. I am all for innovative and ambitious players affecting the games direction, as long as when the dust clears I still have a great, or even better game to play.

EVE is about having fun, and despite the hate GOONS generate, every GOON and their friends seem to have fun. Even if it is often at an others expense, that is what MMO's are all about. If the GOON haters would step back and discern the motives behind the actions, far more non-goons would share the respect I have for what has been accomplished. All they see is the ganking, they are blind to the purpose that drives it. Not that I know the details, but anyone with half a brain should realize the ICE interdiction's were not about ganking miners, but about the profits made from the manipulation of the ICE markets. I expect many GOONS made many billions of isk off it. The tears from the ganked miners was just a bonus.
Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2013-04-10 12:43:23 UTC
Speaking of Freighter losses, i am so sorry to hear of the 8.2 Billion ISK loss of one of your Goon Rhea jumpfreighters [pilot name Viilaa for those looking to find on Killboard] yesterday to MARMITE.

I thought SOP for Goons was to hide in Nullsex when at war....
Viilaa needs a slap on the wrist from Mittens LOL.


http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#115 - 2013-04-10 15:56:52 UTC
lol highsec mercs who quote Sun Tzu

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#116 - 2013-04-10 18:01:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Khanh'rhh wrote:
lol highsec mercs who quote Sun Tzu


Tears for losing 17,3B isks so far ?

Learn your history and see how many small armies have ripped apart large armies. Blink

Still looking for more alliances/corps to finance this war.....

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#117 - 2013-04-10 23:20:59 UTC
Serious question: why do you think I would be upset (and not amused) that some idiots who can't read their notifications lost some ****?

I'm wondering if this is serious chest-beating (you think you're impacting the alliance as an entity) or mindless-trolling to try to get a reaction (and are aware you're just camping gates in highsec, a pointless activity against a 0.0 alliance whose logistics is out-of-alliance alts) .

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#118 - 2013-04-10 23:22:04 UTC
I mean, our rookie ship reimbursement wallet is nearly dead so we need an answer pretty quick.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#119 - 2013-04-10 23:24:14 UTC
Also the small armies tended to impact large armies, historically speaking, by performing hit-and-run tactics on supply lines and bases of operations. I know this means leaving highsec, but gosh darnit, you got yourself a war to win you little scamp so it might just be worth the college try.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#120 - 2013-04-10 23:49:45 UTC
Would I be trolling and waiting for tears....NEVER .... LIES ! Twisted Now send me 500M.

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