Intergalactic Summit

I think it's ignoble in the extreme to accuse Ishukone of "profiting" from this tragedy. No-one has profited from this tragedy - perhaps, tired of war, our nations might use it as an impetus to forge something better than the poisonous, bitter conflict that exists between our peoples, but to suggest that Ishukone are doing what they're doing out of cynical political pragmatism is a touch beyond the pale. As for Ishukone somehow being responsible for the events above Caldari Prime - well, the Provists and Ishukone have never been on good terms, and as far as far as 37th "Octopus" and Admiral Yanala are concerned, they were always deep in the pocket of the Provists - a fact that could be gleaned from a quick discussion with either one of them. They wouldn't make back-room deals with Ishukone, and as for Ishukone itself, it's always vociferously opposed the deployment of the fleet and the Titan to Luminaire - secretly agitating for the deployment of even more of the State's already thinly-stretched military assets behind enemy lines would be completely out of character for them.

It should be noted, also, that Ishukone deployed four jump freighters loaded to the brim with emergency supplies at their own expense, and flew them into one of the core systems of a nation who they, through high-level membership in the Caldari State, are technically at war with. In terms of investment strategy that's not a sound plan for getting a quick ROI, especially if something went wrong and one or more of the freighters was lost to hostile action. Thankfully, they all got to their destination safely and the work of helping those affected by this debacle can begin in earnest, but I hardly think Ishukone will be recouping its deployment costs for this operation anytime soon.

Talk to me more often. You might surprise yourself.


And it's the sort of "gain" they most likely wish they never had need for in the first place, more's the pity.

Even the the Federation Navy reigned supreme in the battle, they were heavily damaged and suffered major losses. It was a Pyrrhic victory if you can even call it that.

Who is going to make all of those new ships and rearm them? Roden ship yards.

Who is going to profit from this reconstruction? President Roden.

It is very clear that a secondary if not primary motive of the Gallente making the first move was to boost Roden's funds and hopefully achieve a victory that he can boast about during elections.

Like I said, Pyrrhic victory. We succeeded in our primary objective, however we endured extreme losses to the point where if you look at pure numbers, we lost completely.

That is the point I am trying to bring. There always is a gain to an action and that is what I am trying to pinpoint. Who had most to gain, who had lost the most, what has changed in the five year status quo? I posed the questions with gains, now what has changed?

Obviously the templar soldiers, but they are a factional constant. Not an ace in the hole to victory. In fact, if it was a matter of ground combat, the Gallente are less of an advantage since Caldari ground militia no longer need to reinforce.

Heth's health is another change. In which case, the only action would be for some final agenda or point of glory. Both of which seem non existent at this point.

Ishukone does have a gain, but that is not a blame. Would need more motive and opportunity for that. No... I think there might be something more insidious at work here. If somebody can cause the destruction of the State's most powerful and prominent vessel, what else are they capable of?

You left out the mercenary's confession to being part of an Ishukone strike force to overthrow the Executor: "emergency supplies... inter(esting) alia."

ok...

1) playing politics with people's lives... Firstly, how is sending a relief convoy to Caldari Prime doing this? unless you mean they are raising their political popularity by improving people's lives.
in fact, the one person within the state who can be certainly blamed for 'playing politics' with people's lives is... Executor Heth.

2) Could it perhaps be that Ishukone have, for the past several years acted with honour regarding the Intaki system? Could it be that their peaceful endeavours there, while upholding every promise made to the state during the auction, have not infinged upon Intaki independence? well, not until Heth sent in his ground forces in clear violation of Ishukone corporate borders.
Could it be that Ishukone and Mordu's legion have both spoken out about the Executors use of the Templis Dragonaur, a known terrorist group who are supposedly still Kill On Sight level criminals within the state?

Personally I think a mixture of these things would show that Ishukone, of all the Caldari megacorps, is willing to do what is right for the people of this cluster even against the wishes of a paranoid dilusional with ties to the Dragonaur.

Just a thought.

Yes, of course, but honest citizens... of what?

Yes, of course.

And of course, again, citizen of *what*: a "sovereign Caldari planet in the heart of Gallente space;" or, a sovereign Gallente planet in the heart of Gallente space?

Not to think like a scheming Amarrian witch, or anything, but I might be inclined to make a deal with a soft enemy to displace a hard one in return for an "autonomous" little planet I might call Home.

If you don't see that as a plausible scenario, well, best of luck to you.