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Solution to Bot Mining

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#21 - 2013-03-26 16:33:52 UTC
Ersahi Kir wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:
Corbin Cummings wrote:
If drones did not automatically go after Pirates/rat and each rat had to be manually targeted then mining barges could not survive. Therefore; making it impossible to BOT MINE. Or even AFK mine.

Plot twist: bots can simulate manual targeting.
Now we need another idea to fix bots Smile

Webcams.

Everyone who flies a barge must have an active webcam on, trained at their keyboard. No hands in view, barge asplodes.
Lol


A camera pointed at my keyboard? No.

A camera pointed at my crotch? Now things are getting interesting.

No one wants to see that asplosion! Shocked

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Whitehound
#22 - 2013-03-26 17:28:40 UTC
OP is a botter and he wants to steal CCP's "thunder" with fake, stupid ideas. Cool

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#23 - 2013-03-26 17:32:51 UTC
Corbin Cummings wrote:
How about random captcha to prove we are not bots
How about no. It would be a pain for players and easy for bots.

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Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#24 - 2013-03-26 17:53:19 UTC
Corbin Cummings wrote:
If drones did not automatically go after Pirates/rat and each rat had to be manually targeted then mining barges could not survive. Therefore; making it impossible to BOT MINE. Or even AFK mine.

How about random Captcha to prove we are not bots.


First off if a bot can target an asteroid it can target a rat, secondly if I am am in a corporate war and get jumped in while mining I certainly don't want to lose a ship because your random captcha jumped onto my screen stopping me doing anything until I typed the right line.

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-03-26 18:20:02 UTC
Corbin Cummings wrote:
If drones did not automatically go after Pirates/rat and each rat had to be manually targeted then mining barges could not survive. Therefore; making it impossible to BOT MINE. Or even AFK mine.




This would actually have no effect whatsoever on bots mining. When I mine with hulks, I just fit a tank on each one, and... TANK THE RATS. That's right, you don't actually need to kill them, and if they are a weak spawn, it's often better not to. Thus, bots would just make sure they had decent tanks, and that their scripts warped them off as soon as hostiles came into local, and nothing would change.

Sorry to burst your bubble.
Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-03-26 18:37:08 UTC
Solution: when mining , have a random question pop up every 10 minutes , something that is not answerable by a bot but easy for a player.

Failure to answer or giving wrong answer induces removal of Boot.ini :thiscanonlygowell.jpeg:

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Josef Djugashvilis
#27 - 2013-03-26 18:52:42 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Nerf mack hp and we here at Bat Country will gladly do another purge of bots.


To rephrase: we want easy, cheap ganks.

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Gulboy
Absolute Order
Absolute Honor
#28 - 2013-03-26 19:17:24 UTC
Why no one mentioned these guys yet? They're actively killing the AFK botters Big smile.
Join them if you want to. They do take action against AFK miners and botters.

Those tears at the blog are sweet Big smile
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-03-26 19:20:44 UTC
Gulboy wrote:
Why no one mentioned these guys yet? They're actively killing the AFK botters Big smile.
Join them if you want to. They do take action against AFK miners and botters.

Those tears at the blog are sweet Big smile


It's ahrd for them to be mentionned when you don't read the thread I guess...
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-03-26 19:23:48 UTC
Corbin Cummings wrote:
How about random Captcha to prove we are not bots.

Yes, the solution to bots is to annoy the crap out of players.

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Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-03-26 19:25:05 UTC
Zenos Ebeth wrote:
Solution: when mining , have a random question pop up every 10 minutes , something that is not answerable by a bot but easy for a player.

Failure to answer or giving wrong answer induces removal of Boot.ini :thiscanonlygowell.jpeg:

Another solution would be to increase CONCORD's reaction time in highsec so that a ganker could kill and escape before being destroyed.... that way people at the keyboard would react the way that they currently react and bots / AFKers would be popped. CONCORD protects AFKers and bots.

Twisted

Of course, is this a good thing or not is an entirely different matter.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2013-03-26 19:30:23 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Nerf mack hp and we here at Bat Country will gladly do another purge of bots.


To rephrase: we want easy, cheap ganks.


We already have them. Seems untanked retrievers are the in thing right now and they are oh so profitable to pop. No we simply want the mack to be balanced correctly with the other barges.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-03-26 19:33:19 UTC
Fractal Muse wrote:
Zenos Ebeth wrote:
Solution: when mining , have a random question pop up every 10 minutes , something that is not answerable by a bot but easy for a player.

Failure to answer or giving wrong answer induces removal of Boot.ini :thiscanonlygowell.jpeg:

Another solution would be to increase CONCORD's reaction time in highsec so that a ganker could kill and escape before being destroyed.... that way people at the keyboard would react the way that they currently react and bots / AFKers would be popped. CONCORD protects AFKers and bots.

Twisted

Of course, is this a good thing or not is an entirely different matter.


If you added the possibility to escape concord and more time before they respond, people would fit a scram kill you and run away every time unless they messed up the dps calculation.
Bohoba
#34 - 2013-03-26 19:39:46 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:
Corbin Cummings wrote:
If drones did not automatically go after Pirates/rat and each rat had to be manually targeted then mining barges could not survive. Therefore; making it impossible to BOT MINE. Or even AFK mine.

Plot twist: bots can simulate manual targeting.
Now we need another idea to fix bots Smile

Webcams.

Everyone who flies a barge must have an active webcam on, trained at their keyboard. No hands in view, barge asplodes.
Lol


Easiest solution, legalize weed

FAKE EDIT: er.. botting



lol colorado did :) I shall think about u maybe :)


now were's them tweekies ?
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#35 - 2013-03-26 19:44:39 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
[ Everyone who flies a barge must have an active webcam on, trained at their keyboard. No hands in view, barge asplodes.
Lol



But but... sometimes even a miner needs to go to the lil boys room Sad
Dave Stark
#36 - 2013-03-26 19:54:09 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Nerf mack hp and we here at Bat Country will gladly do another purge of bots.


To rephrase: we want easy, cheap ganks.


We already have them. Seems untanked retrievers are the in thing right now and they are oh so profitable to pop. No we simply want the mack to be balanced correctly with the other barges.


amen to that
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#37 - 2013-03-26 19:59:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelique Duchemin
Gulboy wrote:
Why no one mentioned these guys yet? They're actively killing the AFK botters Big smile.
Join them if you want to. They do take action against AFK miners and botters.

Those tears at the blog are sweet Big smile



It was mentioned. You just didn't look.


I do like how you mentioned fighting bots and "sweet tears" in the same post as bots do not cry. They are programs.

So can we stop pretending that the order fights bots now?

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Josef Djugashvilis
#38 - 2013-03-26 20:05:44 UTC
Report suspected botters to CCP.

They will deal with the reports, or not, as they see fit.

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ian papabear
No Regard.
#39 - 2013-03-26 20:06:32 UTC
never understood the driving force behind banning botters, doesnt affect my game.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-03-26 20:13:59 UTC
ian papabear wrote:
never understood the driving force behind banning botters, doesnt affect my game.

I suppose if you never use the market with the exception of NPC seeded items this would be the case, but how you could realistically manage this I'm not sure.