Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The day I'll be able to (hardly) scan some tiny belt of ice (random deplete) so I can fuel my pos without being dependant of null sec/high sec, I'll be the first one to go there.

i say

1 - remove ice from high sec

2 - make ice belts depletable in null and lowsec

3 - add ice grav sites to WHs / High sec /low sec / null

4 - add New cap ship thats made for living in WHs that works like a pos and runs off of ice fuels

5 - remove local chat from null

6 - add ALOT more WH space

7 - more Null to WH connections

1. No. There are POSes in Highsec as well, even if they're just research outposts.

2. Maybe. But as same as with asteroid belts they should fill up continuously and not just during downtime. It rankles me greatly to just find empty belts all over again and again just because I'm living in the wrong timezone.

3. Definitely.

4. It should offer some more unique function than just being a "mobile POS". No idea what, but it should fill it's own niche, though something like "mobile command base" may be part of it. Think of the "Primae" for example - sister ship to the "Noctis". Designed to fill the needs of Planetary Interaction, but I've never seen it in use because any decent hauler fits the bill (and more) as well.

5. No. There are more reasons not to.

6. That, and maybe make WH space itself temporary/unstable as well. At the end of the lifetime of a WH pocket something happens to threaten all life in it so people have to move out or risk total loss of their assets. Reason? No permanent residency in a WH as it is with 0.0 in some instances.

7. IHub upgrades do that. But often enough people DON'T want WHs popping up in their 0.0 constellation left and right.

So basically you never want to be able to afford a tengu again, is that right? You want C5 and C6 holes, which require very organized and relatively large fleets to run the sites in, to be completely abandoned and wasted space? Hell, you do that and there'll be no reason for anyone to go more than one deep in a hole. Besides, the mass limitations would prevent fleets from being able to do their things if they had to stage from empire all the time.

Next time think before you post.

I know exactly what you meant... the systems behind the holes. The J-systems. You want people to have to pack up their pos's and move. This is pure idiocy. It doesn't matter if wormholes weren't originally intended to be inhabited. The fact remains... they are. Some players chose to tame the frontiers of w-space and moved in on a permanent basis, in holes ranging from C1 on up to C6s. There are ships built in there that can never leave. Entire industrial complexes set up. PI being run. What they are now is as close to the ideal "null sec" life as CCP has created. To force people to have to pack up and leave will completely break the entire wormhole culture. Holes will be lost to only randomly be found again. T3 prices will blow through the roof as people can no longer establish themselves in w-space and set up the operations needed to acquire the materials for any length of time.

Bad ideas are bad (as are bad memes). Punishing those that choose to make their game in wormholes for no apparant reason benefits noone.

It is possible to have a kind of nomadic ship just for wormholes. The Orca comes very close to that ability but its mass lets it down.

So we need to look beyond what we know.
1) A new tech 3 ship that acts like a carrier but has no jump ability but it can compress its own mass down to fit through a C1 hole but after it passes through the hole collapses.

2) A tech 3 orca type that can widen a wormhole to allow it to pass but again this would collapse the hole as soon as it enters.

Once inside it can go into orbit around a moon and set up a force field that uses ice, stront, liquid ozone and robotics to keep it going. The corp can accsess the hanger within the ship and the fitting capabilities. But you wont be able to manufacture there just use it as a safe place.

I like the idea of a mobile battle station in normal space or wormhole space that can be used as a normal outpost in 0.0 or wormhole space. There was a post a while ago that had some really good ideas based on this.

As for ice in high sec. No do not remove it because it will kill the market and industry.

What would be cool is that gas giants in wormholes will have their own ice fields that need to be tracked and mined. In real life gas giant belts are made up mostly of ice.

i want a large set of wh space you can take sov in! instead of null where you got 400 russian supercaps hotdropping on top of you. i have a large (slightly complicated) idea to make something like this possible without messing the current wh mechanics.

WHs aren't seeing any changes any time soon as they are already amazing and working quite well.

Get over it, move on with your life.

That's even more of an extremist view than what I suggested, but that's the gist of it. As far as I've seen, W-Space was never designed for players to take up (semi-)permanent residency in it, but it seems that the developers underestimated the efforts player go to put up a full-fledged base of operations in a W-Space system.

watch how fast eve would decline if you did that. your T3 ships would go back to costing billions, tons of people would quit the game permanently, and Whs would turn into the barren wastelands that are null sec. Apocryptica is the top rated Eve expansion. CCp did an amazing job. I think they should build on it. At least add more Wh space. and could a Dev please answer wether or not they are adding the new nebulae to WHs!