EVE General Discussion

Nullsec, long the public face of EVE Online, is broken.

Upon a time nullsec was about the clash of interstellar kingdoms, and the trial of wills. But it has become about risk avoidance, wallet bloat and planned PvP combat. It has been turned into NullsecDisney®; the very theme park version of EVE that the present lords of nullsec railed against in the not too distant past.

I guess the current nullsec landlords find that EVE as theme park isn't such a bad idea if you're the ones selling tickets and collecting rents.

Happily, an elegant solution (i.e., one that displays the qualities of unusual effectiveness and simplicity) is available.

http://fiddlersedge.blogspot.com/2013/03/nullsec-is-worth-saving.html

Supercapitals need buffs not nerfs.

The glaring flaws in your alarmist and badly thought out rant article:

* There are already at least 50 classes of ship that specifically counter supercaps, they're called subcaps and they're immune to all forms of supercap weapons
* Supers never die not because they're too strong, but because they're too weak. All it takes is a few subcaps to show up and you're dead. The only way a supers gets used is with 100% safety, which means no fun for anybody.
* The idea that supercaps are concentrated in the hands of "the few" is nonsense, there are thousands of super pilots and anybody can buy one
* The real problem with nullsec is something completely different. The HBC has more supercaps than anybody else, so what's stopping them fighting the CFC? Clearly it's not a lack of supers -- it's a lack of reward and/or vested interest in technetium.

so you don't actually have any clue what you're talking about

I see

Excellent teaser post, leading the reader to click on link for your blog. Well done, sir.

Oh, and is it just me, or did Hans not have anything of consequence to add to all the words he typed in the comments to your blog?

Not quite propoganda, but he raises relevant issues. No minor corporation can make any real headway into nullsec because they do not have the resources to compete with the major nullsec blocks, who basically own all of nullsec, and rent systems out to individuals and/or smaller corporations (aka the whole "disney land" issue).

Jump bridging, hot drops mass control of Huge area's...We all know their are significant issues. The nullsec corporations are sick of shooting each other, blapping their super's because they cost allot, so they horde them in their pos shields, waiting for someone to come along so they can scream "YEEHAW" and drop everything they got on the random Velator Pilot.

Nowadays, we see maybe 1 or 2 superkills a week, and generally solely to stupidity on the pilot of the ship. People are not using them, and people generally don't want to lose them. When they are used though, you have to have an armada to deal with it (which generally all those highsec guys don't have, as you can only build this damn crap in lowsec and null. Odd that allot of people want to kickout the highsecr's into going into lowsec and null.. but those people have no resources for dealing with hot drops, bridges, titan, supercaps. That would be giving the nullsec and lowsec people targets to go blowup on a daily basis, with no fear of actual recourse...

It was not suppose to be this way. There is a big lack of conflict as the driver has turned into meta-gaming, diplomacy, agreements and contracts, rather than going after each other with a bloody hatchet.

Supercapitals and Titan's are nuclear bombs, and they are the deterrent. As long as the sides do not have a social meltdown (aka mutiny), its a stalemate and a standoff between them, while everybody else is either a bystandard, a joiner of that alliance.. or just out of the competition entirely (cannon fodder).

Now is it all supercapitals fault no. It compounded a already inherent issue, that was not a problem until those ships were released. For the first year, it was a interesting premise, longterm effects of putting in such ships weren't determined though, and people began to horde instead of use them. What became a rarity turned into a luxury, which then became the Standard Operating Procedure, and the requirement to even attempt to compete on anything above an Ant's level.

No, nullsec has turned into a 'blue doughnut' because everyone's too sick of grindy sovereignty mechanics to get into a major war. Any potential gains would be outweighed by the sheer tedium of logistics and grinding and alarm-clock ops. And they're busy trying to rig the CSM elections, too.

One of the longest satire blogs I have read. 6/10, made me laugh multiple times throughout. Particularly at the part where you want IHUB hp reduced, so that "Titan class damage is not required to destroy them." This part is particularly amusing considering dreadnaught class damage, is the highest in the game. (Short of a full gank officer fit, 7 torp launcher leviathan, which there are few in active use)

I mean, really guys, there is not a chance in hell this is actually serious. The satire blogs claims are akin to saying that removing stations from highsec would balance out industry, or that you should have to probe out stargates to find them in lowsec, to revitalize it.

everyone? Really? How about just the people who invaded half of null and are now to scared/comfortable to commit once again to a war they would have to start. Everyone else, really, stopped caring about null after the last "great" war (ESPECIALLY after CCP ****** over -A- at the worst possible time, oh yeah guess what, he was absolved of the crimes he was accused of. makes me think someone reporting his char, CCP believed it and banned before they really investigated. Internal affairs maybe???? :tinfoil hat:) After that war, FW suddenly had a ton more people in it.

Now, they have the space with a military that is matched by no one but the russians, and their previous cohorts the CFC. Whom they struck a deal of "don't invade and we will offer you tech moons/keep your moons".

So really, any potential GAINS they would get would only come from space they already own or they already benefit from. Why should they invade anyone when the current status quo is the best they can achieve.

Look at it this way, would you purposely stand against your benefactors risking everything you have gained against someone with an army just as big as yours?

Sov mechanics, and supercapitals are both contributors to issues, but don't forget the resources and how they are distributed. Why commit to a war that would not benefit you and your army?

CCP should eliminate the long skill train for supercaps and hand them out like noobships.

Some players are simply more powerful/knowledgeable/useful than others. Either they have a big shiny ship, or they have 15 accounts, or work hard to organize others. Those players are free to move to whatever team they want, and so when one team starts winning what happens? They all join, and we end up with stagnation.

Stagnation is not the end result of supercaps, it's the end result of people's ability to swap between corporations with ease and their desire to be on the winning team. Supercaps are an easy scape goat, a proxy for the real problem: Nobody likes to lose, so the best players* (and there will always be players who are better than others) will always gang up on everybody else. That's the reason random lolcorps can't get a start in nullsec.

There is no easy solution. The best we can hope for is CCP will mix up the pot and we'll have 5 years of settling down into the new equilibrium.

* If you dislike the idea that some players are inherently better than others, then go find a different game