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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#81 - 2013-03-30 02:11:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
David Devant wrote:
It seems daft, but I honestly think that Zarnak's point 3 (i.e. RP reasons around white supremacy) really shouldn't be underestimated. People who play this game generally have reasonable IQs and (in my experience) are rarely facist pigs and don't want to pretend to be one either.

It might be helpful if the story actually evolved rather than staying so static. The empress Jamyl has done a pretty crap job of leading her people. Maybe there could be some reform on the cards? Some mention of terrible Minmatar atrocities.

I know the vast majority will say that they don't care about this sort of thing but actually the 4 race model is sort of a personality test and in my experience players often conform to it.


Exactly. Figure that basically 90+% of all players come from USA or Europe. Capitalist democracies by and large. And like all other governments on Earth they indoctrinate their youth from day one with the notion that Our Way Is Best And Only Way For The World. Then they carefully edit history to make themselves into shining stars and everyone else look bad.

What these obedient little drones don't do is look outside their own tiny windows at the scope of history or the size of the planet that they live on. When people, especially Americans, think of slavery they only think of their own tarnished history and, like all good little practitioners of White Guilt, make a big hum-do about opposing it.

Meanwhile, back in the rest of human existence... the pyramids weren't build by union workers with great health benefits, yet no one minds taking billions of photos of them and saying "wow that's cool." The Roman Empire took slaves a tribute in all their conquests. You know, Rome, the "Greatest Western Civilization?" And oh yeah, all those big democracy fans might want to read up on the slave-based economy of the "Birthplace of Democracy," Ancient Greece.

And it never stopped, either. The Barbary States enslaved untold numbers of white Europeans in their time. The Spanish were not the first people to start enslaving people in the New World, either: The local tribal nations (Aztecs come to mind) had been doing it to each other for untold centuries before ever laying eyes a pale face.

Even today human trafficking still rages on all over the world. The only difference is that now they're more subtle about it, but there's no shortage of fat, old English chaps flying over to Thailand on a daily basis to take advantage of the uncountable number of underage sex slaves over there. And speaking of sex slaves, do I even need to mention Russia? Or the very idea of "Mail Order Brides?" Heck, look at the USA's own Founding Fathers. Are you, Mr.Patriot, going to tell me that they were unforgivably evil people because, oh yeah, they all happened to be slave owners?

And tell me: What is the real, tangible difference between a Haitian seamstress making .05 an hour at some Disney owned factory and a straight-up slave from three hundred years ago? Do you think the police down there are really going to stand up for her rights if some white business executive tries to do Bad Things to her? The illusion of freedom must be very comforting indeed to those people buying Nike shoes and Little Mermaid toys for their kids.

Here's the reality: The more energy you put into your song & dance routine about freedom, democracy and opposing slavery the more of a hypocrite you look like when all the evidence from the present down to three thousand years ago starts to pile up. You're not doing it because it's what you really believe - you're doing it because it's what you've been taught by The System and peer pressure to claim (quite loudly) that you believe.

I promise that if you took the average EvE playing male and dumped him on island of naked women who made them their king it would be nothing more than orgies at gunpoint 24/7. I don't care what their political party card says, or what their religion is, or anything else. Slavery isn't a social, economic, moral or political issue. It's about power, and seeking power over others is hardwired into the human psyche at a genetic level - no exceptions. You can apply self-discipline to overcome actually acting on that desire, but the desire will always still be there in the back of your mind one way or another. So spare me the self-righteous garbage about loving "freedom." You love your own freedom, nothing more.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Taoist Dragon
School of Applied Knowledge
#82 - 2013-03-30 03:31:56 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
David Devant wrote:
It seems daft, but I honestly think that Zarnak's point 3 (i.e. RP reasons around white supremacy) really shouldn't be underestimated. People who play this game generally have reasonable IQs and (in my experience) are rarely facist pigs and don't want to pretend to be one either.

It might be helpful if the story actually evolved rather than staying so static. The empress Jamyl has done a pretty crap job of leading her people. Maybe there could be some reform on the cards? Some mention of terrible Minmatar atrocities.

I know the vast majority will say that they don't care about this sort of thing but actually the 4 race model is sort of a personality test and in my experience players often conform to it.


Exactly. Figure that basically 90+% of all players come from USA or Europe. Capitalist democracies by and large. And like all other governments on Earth they indoctrinate their youth from day one with the notion that Our Way Is Best And Only Way For The World. Then they carefully edit history to make themselves into shining stars and everyone else look bad.

What these obedient little drones don't do is look outside their own tiny windows at the scope of history or the size of the planet that they live on. When people, especially Americans, think of slavery they only think of their own tarnished history and, like all good little practitioners of White Guilt, make a big hum-do about opposing it.

Meanwhile, back in the rest of human existence... the pyramids weren't build by union workers with great health benefits, yet no one minds taking billions of photos of them and saying "wow that's cool." The Roman Empire took slaves a tribute in all their conquests. You know, Rome, the "Greatest Western Civilization?" And oh yeah, all those big democracy fans might want to read up on the slave-based economy of the "Birthplace of Democracy," Ancient Greece.

And it never stopped, either. The Barbary States enslaved untold numbers of white Europeans in their time. The Spanish were not the first people to start enslaving people in the New World, either: The local tribal nations (Aztecs come to mind) had been doing it to each other for untold centuries before ever laying eyes a pale face.

Even today human trafficking still rages on all over the world. The only difference is that now they're more subtle about it, but there's no shortage of fat, old English chaps flying over to Thailand on a daily basis to take advantage of the uncountable number of underage sex slaves over there. And speaking of sex slaves, do I even need to mention Russia? Or the very idea of "Mail Order Brides?" Heck, look at the USA's own Founding Fathers. Are you, Mr.Patriot, going to tell me that they were unforgivably evil people because, oh yeah, they all happened to be slave owners?

And tell me: What is the real, tangible difference between a Haitian seamstress making .05 an hour at some Disney owned factory and a straight-up slave from three hundred years ago? Do you think the police down there are really going to stand up for her rights if some white business executive tries to do Bad Things to her? The illusion of freedom must be very comforting indeed to those people buying Nike shoes and Little Mermaid toys for their kids.

Here's the reality: The more energy you put into your song & dance routine about freedom, democracy and opposing slavery the more of a hypocrite you look like when all the evidence from the present down to three thousand years ago starts to pile up. You're not doing it because it's what you really believe - you're doing it because it's what you've been taught by The System and peer pressure to claim (quite loudly) that you believe.

I promise that if you took the average EvE playing male and dumped him on island of naked women who made them their king it would be nothing more than orgies at gunpoint 24/7. I don't care what their political party card says, or what their religion is, or anything else. Slavery isn't a social, economic, moral or political issue. It's about power, and seeking power over others is hardwired into the human psyche at a genetic level - no exceptions. You can apply self-discipline to overcome actually acting on that desire, but the desire will always still be there in the back of your mind one way or another. So spare me the self-righteous garbage about loving "freedom." You love your own freedom, nothing more.


WOW!

As I was reading this I was deep in thought.


Then I got to the part about an island full of naked women making me their king.......

what was I saying?...

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#83 - 2013-04-01 20:09:11 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
I can't even begin to count the number of times I've been deplexing a home system and a shout comes over comms that ship A is pointed and a buddy needs help. I should lose minutes on the timer for that? Penalizing deplexing would be horribly unpopular.



That never happens when you are o-plexing?

Defensive plexers running is just as much of a problem as offensive plexers running - if not worse. Its the running instead of fighting that makes fw sov a joke, not whether its oplexers or dplexers running.


But anyway one option, would be to have the rollback only happen if a neutral or enemy is on grid with the accell gate or on grid with you before you warp.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#84 - 2013-04-01 20:15:06 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
....
Now we can talk about farmers and plexes until we're blue in the face. I believe though that CCP is done with FW. What we have is what we get. They can and should address other areas that are problems for Eve at large.....

....


Yes people will continue to talk about the plex rabbits because that is *the* problem. The roleplay storylines, lp store tags, and industry bonuses are just dancing around the problem.

If ccp wants to leave fw sov broken they can but if they are going to spend any time on it they should focus on the real problem. Make it so you win sov through pvp instead of hide and seek plexing and FW is fixed.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2013-04-01 21:52:25 UTC
Cearain wrote:


If ccp wants to leave fw sov broken they can but if they are going to spend any time on it they should focus on the real problem. Make it so you win sov through pvp instead of hide and seek plexing and FW is fixed.


No amount of stabbed farmers can take away a system from pvpers that want to hold it.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#86 - 2013-04-02 00:04:53 UTC
Takseen wrote:
Cearain wrote:


If ccp wants to leave fw sov broken they can but if they are going to spend any time on it they should focus on the real problem. Make it so you win sov through pvp instead of hide and seek plexing and FW is fixed.


No amount of stabbed farmers can take away a system from pvpers that want to hold it.


right as long as the pvpers:

are online 24/7

and

never want to leave that system to do some pvp.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
2manno Asp
Death By Design
#87 - 2013-04-02 02:33:46 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
3) Story Line. It's absolutely horrible. Most of us don't roleplay. But choosing the white, religious fanatic, slave owning race? Yeah.... thought so.


Well it does seem to fit, since all the amarr pilots come across as 8 years old, utter crybabies and/or total sperglords.


funny, once again you're the one that seems mad, once again posting outrage like an 8 year old.

need a binky?
2manno Asp
Death By Design
#88 - 2013-04-02 02:38:44 UTC  |  Edited by: 2manno Asp
Zarnak Wulf wrote:


3) Story Line. It's absolutely horrible. Most of us don't roleplay. But choosing the white, religious fanatic, slave owning race? Yeah.... thought so.


agreed, the story line is awful. let's see...ummmm do i want to fight for the freedom lovers, or slave owning religious fanatics?

hmmm. tough one.
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#89 - 2013-04-02 02:48:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Flyinghotpocket
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
This thread makes me want to take up the violin.

this comment makes me lol
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
3) Story Line. It's absolutely horrible. Most of us don't roleplay. But choosing the white, religious fanatic, slave owning race? Yeah.... thought so.


Well it does seem to fit, since all the amarr pilots come across as 8 years old, utter crybabies and/or total sperglords.


really cause i thought everyone in iron oxide was 8 years old, utter crybabies or total sperglords when we amarr didnt stay around to die to your stabber fleets all day

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
BadFC
Doomheim
#90 - 2013-04-02 03:36:11 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
David Devant wrote:
It seems daft, but I honestly think that Zarnak's point 3 (i.e. RP reasons around white supremacy) really shouldn't be underestimated. People who play this game generally have reasonable IQs and (in my experience) are rarely facist pigs and don't want to pretend to be one either.

It might be helpful if the story actually evolved rather than staying so static. The empress Jamyl has done a pretty crap job of leading her people. Maybe there could be some reform on the cards? Some mention of terrible Minmatar atrocities.

I know the vast majority will say that they don't care about this sort of thing but actually the 4 race model is sort of a personality test and in my experience players often conform to it.


Exactly. Figure that basically 90+% of all players come from USA or Europe. Capitalist democracies by and large. And like all other governments on Earth they indoctrinate their youth from day one with the notion that Our Way Is Best And Only Way For The World. Then they carefully edit history to make themselves into shining stars and everyone else look bad.

What these obedient little drones don't do is look outside their own tiny windows at the scope of history or the size of the planet that they live on. When people, especially Americans, think of slavery they only think of their own tarnished history and, like all good little practitioners of White Guilt, make a big hum-do about opposing it.

Meanwhile, back in the rest of human existence... the pyramids weren't build by union workers with great health benefits, yet no one minds taking billions of photos of them and saying "wow that's cool." The Roman Empire took slaves a tribute in all their conquests. You know, Rome, the "Greatest Western Civilization?" And oh yeah, all those big democracy fans might want to read up on the slave-based economy of the "Birthplace of Democracy," Ancient Greece.

And it never stopped, either. The Barbary States enslaved untold numbers of white Europeans in their time. The Spanish were not the first people to start enslaving people in the New World, either: The local tribal nations (Aztecs come to mind) had been doing it to each other for untold centuries before ever laying eyes a pale face.

Even today human trafficking still rages on all over the world. The only difference is that now they're more subtle about it, but there's no shortage of fat, old English chaps flying over to Thailand on a daily basis to take advantage of the uncountable number of underage sex slaves over there. And speaking of sex slaves, do I even need to mention Russia? Or the very idea of "Mail Order Brides?" Heck, look at the USA's own Founding Fathers. Are you, Mr.Patriot, going to tell me that they were unforgivably evil people because, oh yeah, they all happened to be slave owners?

And tell me: What is the real, tangible difference between a Haitian seamstress making .05 an hour at some Disney owned factory and a straight-up slave from three hundred years ago? Do you think the police down there are really going to stand up for her rights if some white business executive tries to do Bad Things to her? The illusion of freedom must be very comforting indeed to those people buying Nike shoes and Little Mermaid toys for their kids.

Here's the reality: The more energy you put into your song & dance routine about freedom, democracy and opposing slavery the more of a hypocrite you look like when all the evidence from the present down to three thousand years ago starts to pile up. You're not doing it because it's what you really believe - you're doing it because it's what you've been taught by The System and peer pressure to claim (quite loudly) that you believe.

I promise that if you took the average EvE playing male and dumped him on island of naked women who made them their king it would be nothing more than orgies at gunpoint 24/7. I don't care what their political party card says, or what their religion is, or anything else. Slavery isn't a social, economic, moral or political issue. It's about power, and seeking power over others is hardwired into the human psyche at a genetic level - no exceptions. You can apply self-discipline to overcome actually acting on that desire, but the desire will always still be there in the back of your mind one way or another. So spare me the self-righteous garbage about loving "freedom." You love your own freedom, nothing more.


U Mad bro?
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#91 - 2013-04-02 11:27:56 UTC
BadFC wrote:
U Mad bro?


No, but only because I found a picture of you.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2013-04-02 12:31:12 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Takseen wrote:


No amount of stabbed farmers can take away a system from pvpers that want to hold it.


right as long as the pvpers:
are online 24/7
and
never want to leave that system to do some pvp.


Even one guy deplexing for half a day can put a huge dent in the farmer's efforts if they were actually interested in flipping the system. If they're not interested in flipping your system, they'll just go somewhere less well defended.
Now if there's such a low level of occupancy that they can't muster even half a day's worth of defending, then maybe they don't deserve to hold a system?
Rina Kondur
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#93 - 2013-04-02 13:00:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Rina Kondur
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
When Amarr advances I don't see the same surge in numbers. The reason I created this post was simple: Why?





maybe cos u have irratating cockbags like fweddit acting like 2 year old children it puts alot of people off


Confirming Fweddit is a part of the Amarr Militia. But unlike you suggest we are slightly older than two. We at least know correct spelling, punctuation, and sentence structure. I also find your attack quite insulting and demand an apology or I will be filing a petition with the good people at CCP. Such language and personal attacks can not be tolerated in such a child friendly game. Most of my corporation members are at most six years old. I can't have them seeing language like this.

Also. Posting in a Faction Warfare thread that will accomplish absolutely nothing. Carry on.
Juan Rayo
Justified Chaos
#94 - 2013-04-02 13:11:32 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Takseen wrote:
Cearain wrote:


If ccp wants to leave fw sov broken they can but if they are going to spend any time on it they should focus on the real problem. Make it so you win sov through pvp instead of hide and seek plexing and FW is fixed.


No amount of stabbed farmers can take away a system from pvpers that want to hold it.


right as long as the pvpers:

are online 24/7

and

never want to leave that system to do some pvp.


Bull.
I can tell you for a fact that a corp that lives in fw losec, doesn't have people online 24/7 and does leave their home system to go roam and pew pew CAN in fact easily hold a system against farmers. I know this because you know, I AM actually in faction warfare not complaining about it from afar, and my corp would never get our system taken by farmers (lol).

I know CLONE also defend their systems quite easy, TPlus also do it, and everyone knows farmers only go to Qcat systems to die, fortress Nenna is defended as well. That's on the Gallente side but I'm sure the Caldari in Enaluri would laugh their butts off if you told them that farmers could make their system vulnerable, as they do a great job defending their home.

Hell, JUSTK and others have been keeping not 1 but 3 systems. And one of those systems is Eha.

So yeah, as Takseen said, no amount of stabbed farmers can take away a system from pvpers that want to hold it.

One thing we do is "a plex a day" policy. It's quite simple: if every corpie runs one defensive plex a day, nobody has to burn out and the systems stay healthy in our hands. That and you aggresively chase out/kill the farmers and you are in control of your area.


Archon Malefacous
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#95 - 2013-04-02 13:30:08 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
David Devant wrote:
It seems daft, but I honestly think that Zarnak's point 3 (i.e. RP reasons around white supremacy) really shouldn't be underestimated. People who play this game generally have reasonable IQs and (in my experience) are rarely facist pigs and don't want to pretend to be one either.

It might be helpful if the story actually evolved rather than staying so static. The empress Jamyl has done a pretty crap job of leading her people. Maybe there could be some reform on the cards? Some mention of terrible Minmatar atrocities.

I know the vast majority will say that they don't care about this sort of thing but actually the 4 race model is sort of a personality test and in my experience players often conform to it.


Exactly. Figure that basically 90+% of all players come from USA or Europe. Capitalist democracies by and large. And like all other governments on Earth they indoctrinate their youth from day one with the notion that Our Way Is Best And Only Way For The World. Then they carefully edit history to make themselves into shining stars and everyone else look bad.

What these obedient little drones don't do is look outside their own tiny windows at the scope of history or the size of the planet that they live on. When people, especially Americans, think of slavery they only think of their own tarnished history and, like all good little practitioners of White Guilt, make a big hum-do about opposing it.

Meanwhile, back in the rest of human existence... the pyramids weren't build by union workers with great health benefits, yet no one minds taking billions of photos of them and saying "wow that's cool." The Roman Empire took slaves a tribute in all their conquests. You know, Rome, the "Greatest Western Civilization?" And oh yeah, all those big democracy fans might want to read up on the slave-based economy of the "Birthplace of Democracy," Ancient Greece.

And it never stopped, either. The Barbary States enslaved untold numbers of white Europeans in their time. The Spanish were not the first people to start enslaving people in the New World, either: The local tribal nations (Aztecs come to mind) had been doing it to each other for untold centuries before ever laying eyes a pale face.

Even today human trafficking still rages on all over the world. The only difference is that now they're more subtle about it, but there's no shortage of fat, old English chaps flying over to Thailand on a daily basis to take advantage of the uncountable number of underage sex slaves over there. And speaking of sex slaves, do I even need to mention Russia? Or the very idea of "Mail Order Brides?" Heck, look at the USA's own Founding Fathers. Are you, Mr.Patriot, going to tell me that they were unforgivably evil people because, oh yeah, they all happened to be slave owners?

And tell me: What is the real, tangible difference between a Haitian seamstress making .05 an hour at some Disney owned factory and a straight-up slave from three hundred years ago? Do you think the police down there are really going to stand up for her rights if some white business executive tries to do Bad Things to her? The illusion of freedom must be very comforting indeed to those people buying Nike shoes and Little Mermaid toys for their kids.

Here's the reality: The more energy you put into your song & dance routine about freedom, democracy and opposing slavery the more of a hypocrite you look like when all the evidence from the present down to three thousand years ago starts to pile up. You're not doing it because it's what you really believe - you're doing it because it's what you've been taught by The System and peer pressure to claim (quite loudly) that you believe.

I promise that if you took the average EvE playing male and dumped him on island of naked women who made them their king it would be nothing more than orgies at gunpoint 24/7. I don't care what their political party card says, or what their religion is, or anything else. Slavery isn't a social, economic, moral or political issue. It's about power, and seeking power over others is hardwired into the human psyche at a genetic level - no exceptions. You can apply self-discipline to overcome actually acting on that desire, but the desire will always still be there in the back of your mind one way or another. So spare me the self-righteous garbage about loving "freedom." You love your own freedom, nothing more.



Silence!
Get back to work slave!
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#96 - 2013-04-02 13:44:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
Rina Kondur wrote:
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
When Amarr advances I don't see the same surge in numbers. The reason I created this post was simple: Why?





maybe cos u have irratating cockbags like fweddit acting like 2 year old children it puts alot of people off


Confirming Fweddit is a part of the Amarr Militia. But unlike you suggest we are slightly older than two. We at least know correct spelling, punctuation, and sentence structure. I also find your attack quite insulting and demand an apology or I will be filing a petition with the good people at CCP. Such language and personal attacks can not be tolerated in such a child friendly game. Most of my corporation members are at most six years old. I can't have them seeing language like this.

Also. Posting in a Faction Warfare thread that will accomplish absolutely nothing. Carry on.



better start that petition then Big smile

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#97 - 2013-04-02 14:08:23 UTC
Juan Rayo wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Takseen wrote:
Cearain wrote:


If ccp wants to leave fw sov broken they can but if they are going to spend any time on it they should focus on the real problem. Make it so you win sov through pvp instead of hide and seek plexing and FW is fixed.


No amount of stabbed farmers can take away a system from pvpers that want to hold it.


right as long as the pvpers:

are online 24/7

and

never want to leave that system to do some pvp.


Bull.
I can tell you for a fact that a corp that lives in fw losec, doesn't have people online 24/7 and does leave their home system to go roam and pew pew CAN in fact easily hold a system against farmers. I know this because you know, I AM actually in faction warfare not complaining about it from afar, and my corp would never get our system taken by farmers (lol).

I know CLONE also defend their systems quite easy, TPlus also do it, and everyone knows farmers only go to Qcat systems to die, fortress Nenna is defended as well. That's on the Gallente side but I'm sure the Caldari in Enaluri would laugh their butts off if you told them that farmers could make their system vulnerable, as they do a great job defending their home.

Hell, JUSTK and others have been keeping not 1 but 3 systems. And one of those systems is Eha.

So yeah, as Takseen said, no amount of stabbed farmers can take away a system from pvpers that want to hold it.

One thing we do is "a plex a day" policy. It's quite simple: if every corpie runs one defensive plex a day, nobody has to burn out and the systems stay healthy in our hands. That and you aggresively chase out/kill the farmers and you are in control of your area.




Oh I see you let enemy come and take the plexes but then after the enemy leaves you have your alts spin buttons to keep it. That does sound like a good strategy with these mechanics.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#98 - 2013-04-02 14:41:12 UTC
Works great, one of many ways to counter the farmers.

Cearain wrote:


Oh I see you let enemy come and take the plexes but then after the enemy leaves you have your alts spin buttons to keep it. That does sound like a good strategy with these mechanics.

nom nom
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#99 - 2013-04-02 14:50:40 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Works great, one of many ways to counter the farmers.

Cearain wrote:


Oh I see you let enemy come and take the plexes but then after the enemy leaves you have your alts spin buttons to keep it. That does sound like a good strategy with these mechanics.




If you can't beat the rabbits, join them.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Juan Rayo
Justified Chaos
#100 - 2013-04-02 14:57:40 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Oh I see you let enemy come and take the plexes but then after the enemy leaves you have your alts spin buttons to keep it. That does sound like a good strategy with these mechanics.


Guess you missed the part where I mentioned how we kill them or chase them off. In any case, you are changing the subject: you made a bullshit, patently false assertion (yet again) about FW, and I am telling you it's false, and why it is false: no ammount of plex farmers can take a system from pvpers that want to hold it, and no those pvpers don't have to be there 24/7, and can actually go roam and have fun.

FW is great at the moment man. You should try it sometimes, maybe then you'll stop with your hyperbolic **** about it.