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Isn't it about time suicide ganking was fixed? (Not removed, just made harder).

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Alara IonStorm
#81 - 2011-10-15 21:04:41 UTC
David Cedarbridge wrote:


Apparently you've totally missed the point. I'd still be down for that gank just to prove you that I can do it and to collect the tears from the "invulnerable" miracle hulk.

How do you know it is tanked, gonna let a test wave die, bring overkill to every gank or take the leg work to get a clear scan of the fit without spooking him.

The point is that if you are determined you will get it but you have to work for it. Since when is that ever a bad thing.

A little more utility to these ships could add to the fun.
Thomas Orca
Broski is ded
#82 - 2011-10-15 21:06:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Orca
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Dear Ice Mining High Sec Carebears.

Hire a decent mercenary corp to war dec those pesky goons. Have them in belt with you and camping gates and statioon undocks while you mine.

If you can't afford that with the current prices of Oxygen Isotopes - you are playing eve incorrectly

Yours Faithfully
Jita Alt666

P.S. OP CCP are working as intended.


Implying every merc corp willing/able to deck Goons/The Clusterfuck wasn't already doing it.
Generals4
#83 - 2011-10-15 21:07:57 UTC
Captain Jackoff wrote:
In light of how easily the goons have been able to clear gallente space of ice miners, I say the time has finally come to fix suicide ganking. Everybody is too afraid to mine gallente ice in hi-sec. What happend to concord? Oh that's right, concord are all but worthless in this.

I can think of two changes, one of which that should have been made a long time ago.

Insurance needs to be voided if the person dies to concord. Being able to gank targets in hi sec at little to no cost is stupid. Gankers being able to take up insurance so they can get paid to throw away their ships by comitting a crime is also stupid.

Concord needs to be improved, they are supposed to deter ganking from occuring in hi-sec, but they fail at this. I suggest that concord response times are greatly improved. It should still be possible to gank a target, but you'll need more firepower and there's a high risk of concord taking you out before you destroy your target.

These changes won't stop people from ganking each other in hi-sec, but anything that makes it harder will make a huge difference.


I agree with the insurance part but do not agree with improving concord. Removing the insurance would make the consequences harsher while improving concord would simply prevent suicide ganking from happening, which is a no-no in my book.

I also agree with those who stated barges should be able to have at least some tank if they're fitted for it

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#84 - 2011-10-15 21:16:00 UTC
High Sec is not meant to be a PvE - no hope of getting killed by another player - haven. To make it like that would be a serious blow to eve online.
If and I stress IF CCP made so suicide ganking etc couldn't happen then the game would cease to be unique and would just become another space sim.

Think about it.
Victor Dathar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#85 - 2011-10-15 21:16:32 UTC
>Insurance is removed
>Bounties paid to GSF pilots go up to compensate

That is the plan isn't it? To bankrupt our communist space utopia?

^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7

@grr_goons : Wisdom, Insight, GBS Posts
Psychophantic
#86 - 2011-10-15 21:17:07 UTC
Concord kills result in loss of skill points.

Some real consequences instead of this we killed your boat, you lost some sec which wont affect your nano fit smart bombing bs, and heres some isk for your next run.
ExhumeToConsume
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2011-10-15 21:20:25 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
Concord kills result in loss of skill points.

Some real consequences instead of this we killed your boat, you lost some sec which wont affect your nano fit smart bombing bs, and heres some isk for your next run.


you're not very smart are you?
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2011-10-15 21:20:45 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
Concord kills result in loss of skill points.

Some real consequences instead of this we killed your boat, you lost some sec which wont affect your nano fit smart bombing bs, and heres some isk for your next run.


I have a better idea. How about anyone who ever personally inconveniences me while I'm being AFK and stupid gets DELETED. YEAAA, that'll teach'm.

Oh wait, that's a horrible idea. As is loss of skill points.

For chirsts's sakes people, ganking has been part of the game since the beginning, it's working as intended.

HARDEN THE **** UP.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#89 - 2011-10-15 21:21:07 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
Concord kills result in loss of skill points.
Why?
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2011-10-15 21:24:10 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Psychophantic wrote:
Concord kills result in loss of skill points.
Why?


Because carebears, that's why.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2011-10-15 21:24:28 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
David Cedarbridge wrote:


Apparently you've totally missed the point. I'd still be down for that gank just to prove you that I can do it and to collect the tears from the "invulnerable" miracle hulk.

How do you know it is tanked, gonna let a test wave die, bring overkill to every gank or take the leg work to get a clear scan of the fit without spooking him.


Passive targeters and ship scanners are hard.
TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#92 - 2011-10-15 21:25:20 UTC
THIS
OR
THIS
?

Not a veteran, just bitter..
FadeIN Fr0St
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2011-10-15 21:25:39 UTC
I have a question.

Is there not one other thing ice miners can do for the 1-2 maybe 3 weeks before the goons move on to mess with someone else?

I have not been following this very hard, but I do understand the roid belts are still safe. Just kill them for a bit. That Ice will be safe soon enough.

Pirate

"All hail Wang ... the little fella in Command. When 'trouble' starts to spread, I'm sure he will rise to the occasion."

Azahni Vah'nos (Best reply ever)
Jita Alt666
#94 - 2011-10-15 21:30:04 UTC
Thomas Orca wrote:
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Dear Ice Mining High Sec Carebears.

Hire a decent mercenary corp to war dec those pesky goons. Have them in belt with you and camping gates and statioon undocks while you mine.

If you can't afford that with the current prices of Oxygen Isotopes - you are playing eve incorrectly

Yours Faithfully
Jita Alt666

P.S. OP CCP are working as intended.


Implying every merc corp willing/able to deck Goons/The Clusterfuck wasn't already doing it.


Heh. I'm not implying anything. For the record, I know that some major merc corps have chosen not to war dec goons Blink
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2011-10-15 21:31:54 UTC
P42ALPHA wrote:
Is there not one other thing ice miners can do for the 1-2 maybe 3 weeks before the goons move on to mess with someone else?


That would require they reconfigure their bots, and WAAAAH, why should they have to they're the most bestest EVE players in the WOOOOORLD!!!111!11o111!111

And anyone who thinks Goons are going to get tired of this has something else coming. Every time one of these threads comes up it just invigorates us to try harder. Because losing one ship is apparently enough to send you thin skinned children into frothy rage, demanding we get banned, have our characters' skillpoints nutered, be teleported out of highsec, etc etc...


All because you all don't actually enjoy the game enough to pay attention to it.
Zhade Lezte
#96 - 2011-10-15 21:33:56 UTC
So buff CONCORD response time again huh
ACE McFACE
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2011-10-15 21:35:09 UTC
I have solved every problem ever

Get an alt in a rookie ship, make him shoot your hulk/mack even Mission Running ship, instant Concord protection

Note: Ganking is the good and getting mails of rage is better

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2011-10-15 21:36:25 UTC
Zhade Lezte wrote:
So buff CONCORD response time again huh


No, didn't you listen? Apparently the pubbies won't be satisfied until they replace the entire EVE UI with Hello Kitty Online's.

NO PEEKAY PLESS, I AR SLEEPY
Psychophantic
#99 - 2011-10-15 21:38:58 UTC
Goons lol.

http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-02/mf_goons?currentPage=all

Just making up for years of social repression.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#100 - 2011-10-15 21:39:11 UTC
I have received reports of badposting going on in this thread. Let's keep up the standards people.