EVE General Discussion

...If wishes were fishes...

I just started on exploring and love it. But because my skills are horrible won't be able to do more than scan high-sec, as a player needs covert ops/cloak to go further. That's sad, as for a space game exploration of new worlds and systems should be it's highlight...not just another space sim shooter. Can find 100000001 games to blow up stuff, can't find a space MMO that allows exploring the unknown with such gorgeous graphics to boot.

Always wanted to be an astronomer, to scan the skies and see the beauty of space. Could we have some "science" somewhere in this game? Like spectrograph analysis; varible star finding? Stuff to turn in for research credits?

Oh, that's right PvP has to be 24/7 because danger has to exist for a game to be a "game". -_-

tl:dr i won't be able to abuse the imbalance between high sec and null sec after odyssey so i'm going to quit.

ok.

You can't be serious.

Oh ... yes ... i think i actually heard of that.
And i don't care, because nobody can prove either side of the story anyway.

edit: i'll rather not derail.

Funny bit is... Giving us more explorative types something non combat to do that gives us reason to be in space in dangerous areas for long periods of time just equates to more huntable targets for the deranged murderous individuals. So in fact, adding this type of game play would increase targets for the PVP killmail collectors.



I'm not saying the unsub is the childish act. It's calling for a mass exodus of highsec industrialists without any real grounds or facts to base it off of. Simply put noone really knows what is going to happen when Odyssey hits. It's too soon to abandon ship.

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A note from me, to other highsec industrialists:

I notice a lot of people providing pros and cons for Odyssey. I've read every single post in this thread and I can't help but be irritated at the amusingly high amount of negativity towards the expansion.

I've been playing EVE off and on for six years and have a love-hate relationship with it. It ranks as my second favorite game of all time (Activisions PC version of Battlezone in 1999 ranks #1). During this time I have paid a lot of attention to what CCP releases in terms of documentation on their hopes and dreams for the game. Especially over the last three years.

I don't understand why anyone can't have the highest hopes for Odyssey. Want to know why? Here are my reasons:

1. The POS has been broken since its introduction into EVE.

• This has been the case simply by the fact that it's simply not possible to properly utilize a POS as a corporate asset securely as anything more than a in-space corporate hangar. Even that however is relatively insecure. Research & Manufcature from a POS? Not without the Factory Manager role. Because of that you can absolutely forget sharing your POS for that purpose with a corp.
• CCP states that they will be fixing some glaring issues with POS mechanics. Even if we don't get new POS' any improvement to how they work is a change that is greatly needed. Never mind the fact that CCP officially acknowledged the modular POS' requests at Fanfest 2012.

2. Highsec mining sucks. Launch, warp to belt, mine, warp back. Information on ring mining from Fanfest 2012.

With that said, based on the term "redistribution" I see moon minerals being removed from null moons and put into rings for mining in null and low, and possibly even some low grade ones in highsec. My thoughts are that they will likely include regular ore in those belts as well because a ring of nothing but moon goo would be devestating to the market.... So, in a nut shell I see only good things for mining.

With that said, stop being doom sayers, do your research and if you find reason behind it then yes, feel free to unsub and rant. But use facts when calling for others to join you, not what you think is going to happen.

We have nothing to fear, except fear its self

oh and CCP making a right royal mess out of it again

create filters?

Thus, the comment.

Was thinking along the same lines when I read the Odyssey announcement. It's like CCP makes sure industrialists are the rabbits to be hunted. But I can imagine the worse fate: making PvPers manufacturer their own gear for every wipe. The whines will be deafening.

Only an hour? Go live in w-space and you'll be lucky if you only spend an hour a day probing.

Have I interpreted this right?

New exploration sites, but nerf'd loot for all of hisec?

Is there going to be any way to earn ISK in hisec other than indy, mining and missioning?

I like neither mining or mission, and exploration in hisec has become so competitive in the last year, even in low traffic systems - its a race to 4/10's and they rarely drop the good loot anymore it seems. Escalations to lowsec have never dropped anything worthwhile for me either.
Did a 4/10 last night and got two mods worth 8m between them, I got more value from two radar sites and I didn't even need to shoot an NPC.

I've done exploration in lowsec, but the risks vs rewards, is not worth it, gave up on combat Ladar sites - not a single good skillbook dropped, and the combat radar/mag sites drop crap loot too, whats the point in working in lowsec if the loot is no better than hisec? Thats why they are reducing loot in hisec you say.... so they are making exploration earnings ratios 10m : hour in hisec and 40m : hour in lowsec...

If exploration loot gets nerf'd, then I'll have to resort to mining / indy to earn my ISK - fun vs time will be the same, if theres no good loot, its not fun, its just a waste of ammo.

If it wasn't for the social aspect of EVE....