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Call to nations to unite against Federation villany

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#121 - 2013-03-28 15:23:08 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Blaming others in what you are doing, is it normal for you, yes?

No, it's normal for you.

I am asking about you, not about me. Because, obviously, I know about me and you don't. So just stop your ridiculous lies.

Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
How many pages ago I suggested you to try to actually discuss the problem. And you still fail to do this. Of course I have counterarguments, you just can't ask for them properly.

I'm sorry, but as much as you imagine yourself far more important than you are, you don't get to dictate how other people act, nor how other people ask for your counterarguments. If you can't deliver counterarguments despite the behaviour of other people, you're never going to get the respect you demand.

You think that I'm lying when I say no-one else on the IGS respects you, but it's pretty much self-evident. Either give your counterarguments or stop talking - these are really the only two choices you have if you want to earn back the respect you've lost.

The only thing that is self-evident here is your lie. If you want counterargument, make a proper argument.
Otherwise, continue walking in darkness, hitting walls with your forehead. It is a fun thing to see.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2013-03-28 17:21:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
Diana Kim wrote:
I am asking about you, not about me. Because, obviously, I know about me and you don't. So just stop your ridiculous lies.

You have not provided any proof that anything I've said so far is a lie other than you claiming that it's a lie. This doesn't constitute an acceptable standard of proof.

Diana Kim wrote:
The only thing that is self-evident here is your lie. If you want counterargument, make a proper argument.

I already have. You've just chosen to ignore it.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#123 - 2013-03-28 17:25:27 UTC
I didn't ignore. I will just repeat my reply if you couldn't read that one earlier.

Unfortunately, because of amount of insults, lies and bille you spit between real questions, that could be interesting to be discussed, I simply can not treat you seriously.

Try again. Try harder.

I recommend you to start with something like "Greetings, commander! Please excuse me and allow me to present you my humble question:"

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#124 - 2013-03-28 17:31:10 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Unfortunately, because of amount of insults, lies and bille you spit between real questions, that could be interesting to be discussed, I simply can not treat you seriously.

Hypocrite.

Diana Kim wrote:
Try again. Try harder.

I recommend you to start with something like "Greetings, commander! Please excuse me and allow me to present you my humble question:"

Again I ask - why do you believe you are worthy of such respect?

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#125 - 2013-03-28 17:55:58 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Unfortunately, because of amount of insults, lies and bille you spit between real questions, that could be interesting to be discussed, I simply can not treat you seriously.

Hypocrite.

You came in with ridiculous slanders.
All you did was just insults instead of talking. Now, what did you expect? Flowers and clapping?
Besides, I am not hypocrite, because I admit, I just insulting you - because you don't deserve anything less (or prove you worthy? you still didnt do it, I gave you several chances!)
So, for now, enjoy your medicine. But swallow with caution ;)

Andreus Ixiris wrote:

Diana Kim wrote:
Try again. Try harder.

I recommend you to start with something like "Greetings, commander! Please excuse me and allow me to present you my humble question:"

Again I ask - why do you believe you are worthy of such respect?

Such respect? Well, this is just my military rank, Wing Commander. You, gallente kid, hasn't even noticed whom you are talking too, displaying your ignorance again.
And why should you show respect, not to me, but to just other peoples, I stated somewhere here above. I feel lazy to write it here again, anyway, because if you couldn't understant it back then, why would you can understand it now?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Anslo
Scope Works
#126 - 2013-03-28 18:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Diana Kim wrote:
Such respect? Well, this is just my military rank, Wing Commander. You, gallente kid, hasn't even noticed whom you are talking too, displaying your ignorance again.
And why should you show respect, not to me, but to just other peoples, I stated somewhere here above. I feel lazy to write it here again, anyway, because if you couldn't understant it back then, why would you can understand it now?


Your rank does not mean that we Gallentean's show you respect. Hell, many Caldari don't respect you. You speak a lot here and throw out a lot of rhetoric as if to be a poster child of the State while 'slaying' the arguments of your people's 'enemies.'

However, respect, like other things earned in the State, is based on the merit you display to earn it. Your Wing Commander rank signifies merit in some combat, not all. This does not mean you hold the merit to earn respect based on your rhetoric.

Khross-haan, Msr. Raithe, Louvaki-haan, Hakatain-haan, all of these individuals have merit to deserve respect to what they say. They are balanced, level headed individuals with the best interests of the not only the State, but all people, in mind.

YOU have been nothing but inflammatory, ultra-nationalistic, poorly versed, insubordinate to those who, by their merit, DO deserve your respect, and a general shame. I may be wrong in understanding meritocratic values when I say this, and I do hope someone aside from Kim attempts to 'correct me,' but you do not have a single shred of merit to be deserving of any respect outside your own military division.

Based on your continued actions here in the IGS, you show that the only merit you have is that of being relegated to a quiet captain position and not being allowed to speak on behalf of the State.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2013-03-28 18:14:56 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
You came in with ridiculous slanders.

Actually, written defamation is known as "libel," and in any case neither term applies unless the statements are actually untrue.

(Here's a hint: neither term applies in this case)

Diana Kim wrote:
All you did was just insults instead of talking.

Because you consistently act in a manner worthy of contempt and not respect. If you stopped acting in a manner worthy of contempt and began acting in a manner worthy of respect, I might stop feeling contempt towards you and start - although the process would no doubt be very, very slow unless you showed a frankly miraculous improvement in your atttiude - to respect you.

Diana Kim wrote:
Now, what did you expect? Flowers and clapping?

No, not really; I expected pretty much precisely what's happening now.

Diana Kim wrote:
Besides, I am not hypocrite, because I admit, I just insulting you

Um, actually, what you're doing is complaining that you're getting insults instead of respect, and then insulting people instead of treating them with respect. You can't negate hypocricy just by admitting that you're engaging in hypocritical behaviour - that actually makes it worse, since you're actively aware that you're doing precisely what you criticise. Some hypocrites have the somewhat justifiable excuse of being unaware of what they're doing - you do not.

Diana Kim wrote:
Such respect? Well, this is just my military rank, Wing Commander. You, gallente kid, hasn't even noticed whom you are talking too, displaying your ignorance again.
And why should you show respect, not to me, but to just other peoples, I stated somewhere here above. I feel lazy to write it here again, anyway, because if you couldn't understant it back then, why would you can understand it now?

I'm a Lieutenant General of the Federal Defence Union. The equivalent rank in the State Protectorate is Strike Commander, which ranks one tier above Wing Commander, so technically I outrank you. I do not make a habit of demanding to be addressed by my rank as I feel the militia rank system is fairly meaningless - I've even told Synthetic Cultist, who practically insists on appending someone's military rank to their name (among other things), that she doesn't need to. However, if you even want the faintest, fleeting dream of me ever addressing you as "Commander," you will address me as "General."

As for respect, I do show respect. I have a nigh-unending supply of respect which I give freely to a vast number of individuals - many of them Caldari, in fact. Just, you know, not to you. Because unlike Mens Reppola, Otro Gariushi, Aria Jenneth, John Revenent, Katrina Oniseki, Pieter Tuulinen, Verin Haktain, Toushi Kimura, Davlos, Odo Hakaalen, Istvaan Shogatsuu, etc. etc. you've never shown me anything the least bit worthy of respect.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#128 - 2013-03-28 18:18:41 UTC
Anslo wrote:

YOU have been nothing but inflammatory, ultra-nationalistic, poorly versed, insubordinate to those who, by their merit, DO deserve your respect, and a general shame.

And YOU do come here only to troll, being among 4 other trolls whom are spotted.
Being a gallente, you are a perfect reminder for me why I should have no pity slaying gallente.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#129 - 2013-03-28 18:24:39 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

you showed a frankly miraculous improvement in your atttiude

Attitude towards whom? YOU?
Are you kidding? So far you displayed yourself no more than just liar and worthless gallentean kid. You have even displayed that you are physically unable to change to talk as a mature person.
No, really. Do not expect my attitute to you to change in like, mmm... 15 years.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Anslo
Scope Works
#130 - 2013-03-28 18:25:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Diana Kim wrote:
And YOU do come here only to troll, being among 4 other trolls whom are spotted. Being a gallente, you are a perfect reminder for me why I should have no pity slaying gallente.


And as you can, you continue to have no merit shown deserving of any respect, a point you have reinforced for me.

You deserve nothing but 'trolling' from anyone whom you address in such a manner. You claim to be a loyal State Citizen, yet your actions and your life course does not reflect this in anyway shape form or manner. I am not here to 'troll' you now, I am not here to simply get you upset.

I am here to tell you the facts. That based on your behavior, your shameful conduct, and your relentless pursuit of over the top nationalistic xenophobic jingoism that you have NO merit deserving of ANY respect on the IGS. Maybe your assigned military division within the State, but no where else.

I do not demand respect. I don't ask. I act and let people make their own judgement. I do not speak if I cannot comment clearly on a subject such as History or Quantum Mechanical Statistical Analysis. I speak when I can contribute something of value. You have contributed nothing but venomous rhetoric to raise feelings of violence from both sides in a time where BOTH sides should be mourning, repairing, and assisting those who need it regardless of race.

Again, I apologize to my Caldari friends for what I am about to say if it seems out of turn as a Gallentean, but it must be said.

You, Diana Kim, are not Caldari. You may have the blood of a Caldari race in you, but you are NOT Caldari. Caldari are respectable, honorable, and deserving of respect.

You deserve nothing.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#131 - 2013-03-28 18:29:56 UTC
Anslo wrote:

You deserve nothing but 'trolling' from anyone whom you address in such a manner. You claim to be a loyal State Citizen, yet your actions and your life course does not reflect this in anyway shape form or manner. I am not here to 'troll' you now, I am not here to simply get you upset.

What you came with, you have recieved. And you, puny gallentean, have no knowledge to talk about being loyal citizens, after all these rotten holoreels and drugs, that virtually corroded your brains. You have no idea what does it mean to be Caldari, you are another dirty jaijii, who is asking to be disposed of. I hope soon provist boots trail into your house in your home planet.

Now, how do you plan ME to get upset?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2013-03-28 18:36:33 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Attitude towards whom? YOU?

No. Everyone. Literally the only person you don't treat with either complete comtempt or arrogant disdain is Tibus Heth, a person utterly unworthy of anyone's respect, least of all the Caldari. The people who genuinely strive and sacrifice for the actual betterment of the Caldari people you name as traitors, and the innocents living across the Federation who have no stake in this meaningless conflict you accuse of being nonpeople worthy of death simply for not believing as you do - which is precisely what you accuse the Federation of seeing the Caldari as.

Your attitude towards me is of very little concern to me whatsoever (but it could most certainly do with very serious improvement, now that you mention it). Every element of your attitude towards the world around you needs a

Diana Kim wrote:
Are you kidding? So far you displayed yourself no more than just liar and worthless gallentean kid. You have even displayed that you are physically unable to change to talk as a mature person.

And while you throw around "kid" until the term loses all meaning, you literally act like a child. I have done many things for both the Federation and the State - all you've done is talk, and destroy simply for the sake of destruction.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#133 - 2013-03-28 18:39:29 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

No. Everyone. Literally the only person you don't treat with either complete comtempt or arrogant disdain is Tibus Heth

And again, you just straight away start with lies. You, gallente kid, is simply disgusting.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Anslo
Scope Works
#134 - 2013-03-28 18:40:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Diana Kim wrote:
What you came with, you have recieved. And you, puny gallentean, have no knowledge to talk about being loyal citizens, after all these rotten holoreels and drugs, that virtually corroded your brains.


I don't do drugs. Ask any of those you may respect who know me. Same with holoreels. I prefer to live life.Your baseless argument presents no evidence. Further lack of merit.

As for loyalty, I give loyalty to those who deserve it, to those I care for and love as family. And that loyalty would drive me to die for them. Hell, I HAVE died for them. So do not speak to me, child, of such a thing as loyalty as you see it in your perverse mind.

Quote:
You have no idea what does it mean to be Caldari, you are another dirty jaijii, who is asking to be disposed of. I hope soon provist boots trail into your house in your home planet.


Coming from a racist tyuui known for her blind hate, this means little. The fact that a Gallentean remembers the lessons of Cold Wind more than a self-proclaimed onuoto hannin seething hate without cause as opposed to calmly reaffirming your loyalties in a less belligerent manner seems, to me, that I do know the values that the Caldari hold dear. And I respect them enough to want to learn and understand them instead of say they deserve to be destroyed in whole.

Quote:
Now, how do you plan ME to get upset?


If you mean how I plan to get you upset, I don't. I am stating the facts of what I see and the judgement I have of you based on your actions. It takes more than you to make me upset, child.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2013-03-28 18:40:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
Diana Kim wrote:
And again, you just straight away start with lies. You, gallente kid, is simply disgusting.

It isn't a lie. There is almost no extant public communication in which you address anyone other than Tibus Heth without contempt, or at the very least dismissive apathy.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#136 - 2013-03-28 18:42:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
Diana Kim wrote:
What you came with, you have recieved. And you, puny gallentean, have no knowledge to talk about being loyal citizens, after all these rotten holoreels and drugs, that virtually corroded your brains. You have no idea what does it mean to be Caldari, you are another dirty jaijii, who is asking to be disposed of. I hope soon provist boots trail into your house in your home planet.

Now, how do you plan ME to get upset?

With the amount of bile in this post it rather looks like you're the one that's upset.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2013-03-28 18:50:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
Diana Kim wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

you showed a frankly miraculous improvement in your atttiude

Attitude towards whom? YOU?
Are you kidding? So far you displayed yourself no more than just liar and worthless gallentean kid. You have even displayed that you are physically unable to change to talk as a mature person.
No, really. Do not expect my attitute to you to change in like, mmm... 15 years.

One should also note how you've quoted only one sentence fragment from the entire post and then acted like your post was a refutation of every point therein. This is another tactic often used by those losing an argument.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#138 - 2013-03-28 18:55:17 UTC
Mr. Ixiris, it may simply be best to ignore Ms. Kim. I fear to do otherwise feeds the fire, however much we'd like to reform her to a more moderate, considered, nuanced view of the world.

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2013-03-28 18:57:16 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Mr. Ixiris, it may simply be best to ignore Ms. Kim. I fear to do otherwise feeds the fire, however much we'd like to reform her to a more moderate, considered, nuanced view of the world.

Kim shuts up - we're all happy.
Kim talks - she continues to make the Provists look bad, and push other Caldari further away from herself.
Kim reforms herself - the world is a better place.

I literally can't lose! All the outcomes are good.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#140 - 2013-03-28 19:05:53 UTC
Anslo wrote:

I don't do drugs. Ask any of those you may respect who know me. Same with holoreels. I prefer to live life.Your baseless argument presents no evidence.

If you don't do drugs and don't watch these brainwashing gallentean propaganda (or just their holomovies), then tell me, what can turn a young promising gallentean kid into such a douche?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.