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Call to nations to unite against Federation villany

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-23 19:09:02 UTC
Fellow capsuleers !

Leaders of alliances !

Representatives of empires !

Yesterday we all witnessed traitorous attack of federal dogs outside of all rules of fighting the war set between empires. But the worst part of it not their breaking of the treaty, but atrocity with which they committed this crime.

Gallenteans have moved their very capital fleet into low orbit of inhabited planed to take a fight there against our capital fleet, knowing how many peoples were living below. The fight, that they forced on us, took lives not only of combat pilots, but also civilians on the planet. For many days huge and deadly debris from destroyed capital ships will be entering atmosphere increasing the death toll of gallente actions.

And what makes it even worse, the position that Caldari fleet was taking before the fight, was dictated by another gallentean maneuver. Caldari fleet went down to support ground forces, that were fighting against mercenaries on the surface. Some of mercenaries have made public video and holo recordings of their fight, where we can clearly see their contractor. The Gallente Federation. Many of them confirmed, that they were hired by gallente.

All this means, that it was gallente who lured our fleet on low planetary orbit to engage them there. Their hatred to human life, and Caldari people in particular is simply outrageous. They are killing people only because of word, only because of empty and cheap idea that they call "liberty".

The government who gives orders to commit such atrocities must not be allowed to exist in our cluster! Peoples, who are following such government should not be allowed to wear weapons!

This time we should stay united. Together we can bring war, that they brought to our planet, to their homeworlds. Together, we will destroy this inhumane government. And we shovel their valued freedom deep into their throats.

It is our duty to defend humanity from the murderous monstrosity called Gallente Federation !

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-03-23 19:22:54 UTC
At this moment, representatives from the State and the Federation have not made any comments regarding yesterday's events.

It would be extremely foolish of you to condemn an entire nation without knowing all the details.

All that we can confirm is that both sides fought bravely and honorably for what they believed in and both of the beliefs weren't incorrect. The Caldari were right for wanting to maintain sovereignty on their own homeworld, and the Gallente were right for wanting to step in and protect their own citizens.

Until more information about the conflict, and how it came to be can be confirmed, we shouldn't be pointing fingers.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-03-23 19:33:22 UTC
I was there, fighting on the frontline.
I saw what happened.
If you need any particular proof - feel free to drop me a mail, unfortunately this media doesnt support (allow) certain things.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-03-23 19:47:13 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I was there, fighting on the frontline.

No you weren't. You popped some random ships and then ran like a coward at the first sign of genuine danger. Pretty much every Caldari loyalist I've talked to was very clear on your actions.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-03-23 19:58:10 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I was there, fighting on the frontline.

No you weren't. You popped some random ships and then ran like a coward at the first sign of genuine danger. Pretty much every Caldari loyalist I've talked to was very clear on your actions.


Your ignorance can match only your trolling ability.
Because I have stayed there before the fight, providing support against fdu scum, and then the fight begun, stayed in frontline, fighting amongst many brave men and women (whom, obviously, you don't belong), losing several ships in process and stayed even after our capital ships went down to deliver as large blow to remained fed vessels as i could.
Since even such ignorant person as you could easily access combat logs (or wait... can you?), i think this was mere a trolling attempt.

I don't even know, why I am replying to these truly ridiculous claims. But well, peoples should know how much liar is you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-03-23 20:11:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Oh, I am sorry, I think we have a bit misunderstanding.
I have gained access to your combat database and it seems you was talking about yourself.
Since it is you, who just wh... i mean put a scratch on a single ship and then run like a dog with burning tail.
Well, I have admit, I really didn't expect such buffon as you to even appear in combat action.
And why did you run so fast? Did someone locked you? Big smile

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-03-23 20:21:47 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Your ignorance can match only your trolling ability.
Because I have stayed there before the fight, providing support against fdu scum, and then the fight begun, stayed in frontline, fighting amongst many brave men and women (whom, obviously, you don't belong), losing several ships in process and stayed even after our capital ships went down to deliver as large blow to remained fed vessels as i could.
Since even such ignorant person as you could easily access combat logs (or wait... can you?), i think this was mere a trolling attempt.

I don't even know, why I am replying to these truly ridiculous claims. But well, peoples should know how much liar is you.

Public kill records and the testimony of basically every Caldari militia pilot I've talked to said you whored on killmails, refused to provide support to those who required it and got popped because of your own incompetence.

No-one believes you.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-03-23 20:27:52 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

Public kill records and the testimony of basically every Caldari militia pilot I've talked to said you whored on killmails, refused to provide support to those who required it and got popped because of your own incompetence.

No-one believes you.

Caldari militia pilots? I barely seen a couple there. Unfortunately... it could have ended differently if there were more of them.
Besides, what right do you have to speak about incompetence, being such a ridiculous combat amateur?
Of course, there are a couple of peoples, who might point me at several mistakes, that i might did after analysing my actions.
But certainly not you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-03-23 20:37:09 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Caldari militia pilots? I barely seen a couple there. Unfortunately... it could have ended differently if there were more of them..
Besides, what right do you have to speak about incompetence, being such a ridiculous combat amateur?.

The woman who camps outside of stations with a battleship killing frigates and industrials calls me a combat amateur when she couldn't even tell there was a 70-man Caldari militia fleet on the field.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-03-23 20:44:44 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Caldari militia pilots? I barely seen a couple there. Unfortunately... it could have ended differently if there were more of them..
Besides, what right do you have to speak about incompetence, being such a ridiculous combat amateur?.

The woman who camps outside of stations with a battleship killing frigates and industrials calls me a combat amateur when she couldn't even tell there was a 70-man Caldari militia fleet on the field.

You are deluded. You have no idea what are you talking about.
You need a psychiatrist.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-03-23 20:51:57 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
You are deluded. You have no idea what are you talking about.
You need a psychiatrist.

The funny thing is, even the vast majority of people who don't like me aren't going to side with you.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Lialus Raithe
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-03-23 20:59:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Lialus Raithe
Diana Kim wrote:

Yesterday we all witnessed traitorous attack of federal dogs outside of all rules of fighting the war set between empires. But the worst part of it not their breaking of the treaty, but atrocity with which they committed this crime.


For pity's sake woman, must you really try and put a political spin on yesterday's events? You, as a Provist supporter in particular, have absolutely zero ground to stand on when it comes to breaking treaties. I know you haven't forgotten how this little situation began! Allow me to spell it out for you:

  • The Caldari left Caldari Prime during a sustained orbital bombardment of the planet from the Federation after the loss of half a million lives in Nouvelle Rouvenour that we only later learned was the act of an independent terrorist group
  • A cease fire is agreed upon leaving the sovereignties as they stand, including Caldari Prime under Gallente sovereignty
  • Two centuries later Executor Heth's forces arrive after sabotaging Tripwire and during a conveniently timed CONCORD communications blackout and take Caldari Prime by force
  • Executor Heth then proceeds to place the planet on lock-down while literally hold a titan-sized gun to the head of every Gallente citizen on the planet to avoid retaliation


Do not speak of broken treaties and the violations of laws.

Diana Kim wrote:
Gallenteans have moved their very capital fleet into low orbit of inhabited planed to take a fight there against our capital fleet, knowing how many peoples were living below. The fight, that they forced on us, took lives not only of combat pilots, but also civilians on the planet. For many days huge and deadly debris from destroyed capital ships will be entering atmosphere increasing the death toll of gallente actions.


You are the second person I've seen spout this kind of nonsense and come to think of it, you both have very similar forms of communication. Intriguing. The Gallente did not control the fleet of the Caldari, the Caldari entered into low orbit of their own volition, seeking to establish a trajectory to bombard the planet from orbit - a promise your Executor made years ago.

The Federation did what was necessary, it removed the threat that has been looming over the heads of those civilians for the past five years. The combined fact that the threat to bombard Gallente civilians was made throughout the fight (including the last standing order for the titan) and the Caldari fleet refused to leave low orbit so that it could maintain this threat is not the fault of the Gallente or the Federation.

Diana Kim wrote:
And what makes it even worse, the position that Caldari fleet was taking before the fight, was dictated by another gallentean maneuver. Caldari fleet went down to support ground forces, that were fighting against mercenaries on the surface. Some of mercenaries have made public video and holo recordings of their fight, where we can clearly see their contractor. The Gallente Federation. Many of them confirmed, that they were hired by gallente.


Which, of course, you use to conclude that the Federation is responsible for the atrocities your Executor had been and sought to commit against the populace of the planet. So the Federation hired mercenaries to repel the occupation of Caldari Prime, how long did you expect the situation to remain at a stalemate with a gun to the heads of those people? You point fingers of blame and scream "look what you made us do" while holding hostages.

The Executor's fleet sought to make good on the Executor's promises after being a gun held at the head of every Gallente citizen on that planet and denying any option for extraction.

Diana Kim wrote:
All this means, that it was gallente who lured our fleet on low planetary orbit to engage them there. Their hatred to human life, and Caldari people in particular is simply outrageous. They are killing people only because of word, only because of empty and cheap idea that they call "liberty".


This does not even deserve a response, it's complete biomass.

Diana Kim wrote:
The government who gives orders to commit such atrocities must not be allowed to exist in our cluster! Peoples, who are following such government should not be allowed to wear weapons!


I agree! You may begin surrendering your weapons immediately.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-03-23 21:14:10 UTC
Oh, Kim's back. Wonderful.

You give the Federation entirely too much credit by claiming they manipulated our Home Fleet in such a way.

Furthermore, you're doing that thing again where you open your mouth and stupid comes out. Please desist.

~Malcolm Khross

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-03-23 21:14:50 UTC
Lialus, I'd advise not wasting time addressing Kim's points as if they're legitimate assertions. She's so delusional most of her own faction won't have anything to do with her.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#15 - 2013-03-23 21:29:39 UTC
I was wondering how long it would take before she returned to her usual ways of hypocrisy and blustering. To her credit the answer is "longer than I expected."

Kim, realise something. Your stubbornness and insistence on rejecting reality and substituting your own is reflected in the likes of Tibus Heth and Visera Yanala. Between them they managed to lose Caldari Prime and cause the deaths of countless millions.

Are you really sure you want to continue this pointless campaign, or come back to reality and accept things for what they are, not what you wish them to be?

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Valdezi
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#16 - 2013-03-23 21:59:20 UTC
Diana, I destroyed thirty enemies of the State, at my last count, above Caldari Prime, but your Abaddon was the most fun.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-03-23 22:23:09 UTC
I've got it! I finally understand! Diana Kim is a secret project to ease tensions between the Gallente and the Caldari by giving them something they can laugh at together.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-03-23 23:26:21 UTC
Valdezi wrote:
Diana, I destroyed thirty enemies of the State, at my last count, above Caldari Prime, but your Abaddon was the most fun.


I am not dancing with you anymore!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Valdezi
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#19 - 2013-03-24 01:37:46 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

I am not dancing with you anymore!


Your loss, princess.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-03-24 03:21:18 UTC
Lialus Raithe wrote:

For pity's sake woman, must you really try and put a political spin on yesterday's events? You, as a Provist supporter in particular, have absolutely zero ground to stand on when it comes to breaking treaties. I know you haven't forgotten how this little situation began! Allow me to spell it out for you:

  • The Caldari left Caldari Prime during a sustained orbital bombardment of the planet from the Federation after the loss of half a million lives in Nouvelle Rouvenour that we only later learned was the act of an independent terrorist group
  • A cease fire is agreed upon leaving the sovereignties as they stand, including Caldari Prime under Gallente sovereignty
  • Two centuries later Executor Heth's forces arrive after sabotaging Tripwire and during a conveniently timed CONCORD communications blackout and take Caldari Prime by force
  • Executor Heth then proceeds to place the planet on lock-down while literally hold a titan-sized gun to the head of every Gallente citizen on the planet to avoid retaliation

Caldari prime always was our planet. Always. And will be. Federals stole it back then. For a hundred of years we were trying to solve it diplomatically after the cease fire to return what is rightfully ours. However, greedy gallentes were deaf. So, we came and took it.
As for placing a titan on the orbit, it was necessary to protect the planet against federal strikes. We suspected they will eventually break the treaty to steal the planet again. However I couldn't imagine they will do this in such barbaric manner.
To lure capital fleet and destroy it on heads of numerous civilians is above any reasonable comprehension.


Lialus Raithe wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Gallenteans have moved their very capital fleet into low orbit of inhabited planed to take a fight there against our capital fleet, knowing how many peoples were living below. The fight, that they forced on us, took lives not only of combat pilots, but also civilians on the planet. For many days huge and deadly debris from destroyed capital ships will be entering atmosphere increasing the death toll of gallente actions.


You are the second person I've seen spout this kind of nonsense and come to think of it, you both have very similar forms of communication. Intriguing. The Gallente did not control the fleet of the Caldari, the Caldari entered into low orbit of their own volition, seeking to establish a trajectory to bombard the planet from orbit - a promise your Executor made years ago.

I got this information from a certain medical personnel, who was working with victims of gallentean atrocity. The titan moved to low orbit not because the Admiral wanted it, but because it was necessary to provide tactical superiority for surface forces. There was fighting down there, of course the fleet couldn't just stay and watch without providing support.
Do you really don't understand how fighting on surface connected to descending the fleet on the low orbit? I think everyone should have expected it. Including the Federation. And these mercenaries, who were sent to die there and attack our facilities made this possible.

Lialus Raithe wrote:

The Federation did what was necessary,

Killing so many peoples, oh well, if you too think it was necessary, then you are one of these bigoted racists.

Lialus Raithe wrote:

it removed the threat that has been looming over the heads of those civilians for the past five years. The combined fact that the threat to bombard Gallente civilians was made throughout the fight (including the last standing order for the titan) and the Caldari fleet refused to leave low orbit so that it could maintain this threat is not the fault of the Gallente or the Federation.

The only threat in the system was gallente forces. It is they who started fighting on the planet. It is they, who sent capital fleet to start the fight.
And of course fleet refused to leave low orbit, because:
1. it is not a freaking gallente business what we do on our planet
2. gallente has no authority to give any orders to any of our vessels
3. gallente fleet itself moved into low orbit, so how they could demand us to stop doing something, that they do themselves? frak them, really, this is pure stupidity, they just wanted reason to start fight. Their words might had sense, if they didn't bring their own sheep there.
4. not only they entered low orbit of our planet with ridiculous demands, but also they have violated the non-fly zone, established to prevent escalating of conflict on surface so no any other neutral dropship bring more mercenaries
Gallente came on top on our fleet spitting their usual bigotry and ridiculous demands with only reason to start fight.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

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