Intergalactic Summit

I cannot honor you brave men and women enough. You are true heroes of the Federation and I would personally shake your hand and salute each one of you if I could. Your defense of our home system and the effort you made for the reintegration of Luminaire VII into sovereign Federation territory will be in history books all over New Eden.

I must admit I had my doubts about your ability but am I glad you proved me wrong! I must thank especially Hjalta Bebemangeur for her undying loyalty to the Federation and for representing us in such a way that would make the most mild of Gallente proud. . You are a true champion of freedom. I consider you both a friend and a sister in arms. If I ever catch you planet side, I own you several drinks if you happen to be off duty.

This is more like enjoying the shade.

The very majority of innocent people planetside are Gallente citizens being opressed by the Provist tyrants. Don't you think I have forgotten about these people but unfortunately they are beyond my reach and all I can wish for them is another victory for the Federation planetside.

There is nothing to enjoy at all. All you have accomplished is yet another reason for the Caldari-Gallente conflict to continue and for more innocents on both sides to be harmed.

Short-term victory for long-term suffering not exactly a good trade-off.

Well, this Patriot spent the last hours before he rejoins the CEWPA war evacuating your people off the planet that your Navy was stupid enough to drop a Titan on.

I didn't see you there. Probably too busy patting yourself on the back. Not that I remember seeing you around Caldari Prime earlier either - it was chaotic, but I'm sure I would have said hello if we'd come close to each other.

For pity's sake, Mekhana, this isn't something to brag about. We did what our nation asked of us and that's nothing to be ashamed of - something to be proud of, even. But unless we use this victory to bring the State to the negotiating table and forge a lasting peace, it was all utterly meaningless, and the sacrifices of all those who fought and died above or on the surface of Caldari Prime were for nothing.

This war has to end, Mekhana. The only way we can possibly end it now is to be the better men and let them have their planet despite how easily we could take it from them again.

Caldari prIme is not some object to be used as a bargaining chip.
It is somebody's home. Trying to use it as a mere piece of loot to be traded will not do anything to earn peace. That sort of callous attitude is the reason this war exists in the first place.

Mekhana, shut up, and let me break it down for you why it's a terrible idea to be saying what you're saying right now.

The Caldari have quite definitively lost the battle for Caldari Prime itself - their fleet was utterly shattered and despite the fact that (as far as I heard) a large amount of our own fleet didn't make it out, there's really no way the State can claim they won the war for space superiority. They might win the ground wars for now, but without the Titan or any other staging platform enabling orbital power projection the presence of Provist occupation forces is completely unsustainable. They can't hold Caldari Prime, so the battle now moves to hearts and minds. The State's morale - at least along the baseliners - will be at an all-time low right now, and the State's going to need to motivate them to continue fighting. Caldari Prime is not a topic that can profitably be used to motivate them right now, because its second loss will be far too bitter and sad. What they can use to motivate people is anger at the people who did it, and for that, they need people willing to make arrogant, poorly-thought-out statements that the State propaganda machine can use to fan the flames.

In the next few days, you will - and I pretty much guarantee this - see both capsuleers and baseliners attempting to goad the more outspoken members of the Federation into some indiscretion or another. A lot of the State's capsuleers will, after a fashion, be hoping that the Federation does its absolute worst and glasses Caldari Prime or starts indiscriminately bombing civilians, because that's good for propaganda purposes. What we need - what we in the Federation really need right now - is for calmer heads to prevail, and for our nation's partisans and outspoken proponents to just... wait and see.

At least some Gallente have some Integrity

and herein lies the problem.

You lack consideration for anyone not in the Federation/


I won't justify the actions of Heth, and I don't think a doomsday should ever be aimed at a planet, but the Federation has used that as an excuse to invade and they can't even have the decency to be up front about their intentions. Then we have you celebrating the loss of countless thousands of crewmen as debris rain down upon the planet. If those are YOUR people you claim to be protecting then you are celebrating the deaths of YOUR people from the rain of debris.

And now you use rhetoric against me after accusing me of using rhetoric against you.

No, I often disagree with people in the Federation as you can see here. The only difference is that they know me well enough to not get into an argument with me.

I'm a dying breed, a dinosaur if you will. I'm just a necessary evil, I'm the kind of person that is not held back when it's time to get my hands dirty. Someday hopefully the Federation will no longer need people like me and I'll disappear. Until then however...