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ISO 250 mil loan with 6% interest (nm but I have a quick question)
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Powster Duskshard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-22 17:59:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Powster Duskshard
nm if there is no chance about loan so edited it out

proft * quantity traded a day = good item to trade? << my question

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6509/2c207df41d29452785aace0.png

My spreadsheet I made for items I trade to see which I should focus on updating when I am too lazy to do all lol
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#2 - 2013-03-22 18:07:32 UTC
Powster Duskshard wrote:
ISK Loan Amount: 250million
Interest: 6% (low because I do not want to feel forced to station trade forever)
Collateral: None.. I only station traded to plex on trial and bought a drake then quit soon after in 2011. (Drake I will use in missions)
Duration: 4 weeks (possibly a week if you do not want to go after the checkpoints)
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing. I do not need it since I only have 53 trade orders but there have been times when I have felt maybe I should make a smaller buy order in case suddenly too many buy orders were completed at once. I have been thinking of doing hauling on an alt though. If that works out then reaching the checkpoints will be a lot easier unless I fail....

Bonus Checkpoints: If my NAV (including the loan) reaches these amounts I will raise interest
4 billion - 15% interest
4.5 billion - 30% interest
5 billion - 50% interest (I think there is no chance of me reaching this)

Currently I have..
Sell Orders Total 495,073,084
Wallet Size 604,686,054.50
Total in Escrow 280,067,226
Item Hanger Value 30,000,000

About me
Around May 2011 I started eve on a trial account. Since I heard you could become full member with trial by buying low and selling high I was interested in the game. I have always like games like "Tradewinds" where you can trade to get rich so decided to get a plex from trial. I read guides and googled a bit how easy it was to do it... anyway seemed like it would be hard from what I read. If I succeeded cool if not who cares I can just play another game lol. Eventually I was able to buy a drake and plex before my trial ended. At that time I realized I would have to start back up from no isk which was not fun so did a few missions on my drake but passive tank with trash equip and low skills was boring so quit a few days later.

Now.. fast forward to a few days ago I decided to play again after knowing what to expect so would not be station trading so much that I get tired of it. Guy I know who quit gave me 1.5billion isk which I used to buy a plex with to get to a full account from the 4 hour add plex time thing.

I have read a lot of posts on market discussion so I am pretty sure there is a low chance I will get the loan. If I don't then I am ok still lol so it doesnt matter since I dont need.. if I do get then cool.


So you are valuing your business at slightly over your first "bonus checkpoint"

You are not offering collatorol.

and you are asking for 250m ?

You openly say that you need the loan for nothing.

The numbers don't add up.


Here is my opinion, I see a scammer acting dumb-and-humble ( Dumble ) in attempts to walk away with 250m

yes
Singulaer
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-03-22 18:40:12 UTC
Powster Duskshard wrote:
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing.


What?

"Do not attempt to live without vanity, since this is impossible, but choose the right audience from which to seek admiration." - Bertrand Russell
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#4 - 2013-03-22 18:44:30 UTC
Singulaer wrote:
Powster Duskshard wrote:
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing.


What?



Pretty dumble huh?

yes
Powster Duskshard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-03-22 18:53:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Powster Duskshard
I am not giving value to the checkpoints .. I dont think I will reach even the first. I expect to reach 3 billion by 4 weeks which is why I put 4 billion as the lowest checkpoint lol... The reason I put them there is in case somehow I do way better than I expect to do then why not share with a person who helped me a bit. I really do not think I will reach the first though I have other games I am playing.

I do not need the loan... it just would be nice to have so I would not have to care at all about finishing too many trades at once without having the isk to pay. + more money is always better for station trading

I have no collateral to offer which is why I can not offer any lol.. Like I said.. All I have done is station trading and like 5 missions in my only ship. I will not be doing nothing but station trading so I can not give my ship.

Not trying to convince yall to trust me lol.. there is no way to do that. The topic was posted for people who see it and can spare helping a player who possibly might not be a scammer just like he possibly is one.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#6 - 2013-03-22 18:55:47 UTC
Powster Duskshard wrote:
I am not giving value to the checkpoints .. I dont think I will reach even the first. The reason I put them there is in case somehow I do way better than I expect to do then why not share with a person who helped me a bit. I really do not think I will reach the first though I have other games I am playing.

I do not need the loan... it just would be nice to have so I would not have to care at all about finishing too many trades at once without having the isk to pay. + more money is always better for station trading

I have no collateral to offer which is why I can not offer any lol.. Like I said.. All I have done is station trading and like 5 missions in my only ship. I will not be doing nothing but station trading so I can not give my ship.

Not trying to convince yall to trust me lol.. there is no way to do that. The topic was posted for people who see it and can spare helping a player who possibly might not be a scammer just like he possibly is one.


You do not expect to reach even the first. yet you value your buisness at slightly above the first.

you aren't trying to convince anyone to trust you. yet you are asking for 250m from someone with no collatorol.

yes
Singulaer
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-03-22 19:00:56 UTC
Alex Grison wrote:
Singulaer wrote:
Powster Duskshard wrote:
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing.


What?



Pretty dumble huh?


Most certainly.

"Do not attempt to live without vanity, since this is impossible, but choose the right audience from which to seek admiration." - Bertrand Russell
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#8 - 2013-03-22 19:09:19 UTC
Singulaer wrote:
Alex Grison wrote:
Singulaer wrote:
Powster Duskshard wrote:
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing.


What?



Pretty dumble huh?


Most certainly.


Indeed

yes
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#9 - 2013-03-22 21:33:33 UTC
Powster Duskshard wrote:
ISK Loan Amount: 250million
Interest: 6% (low because I do not want to feel forced to station trade forever)
Collateral: None.. I only station traded to plex on trial and bought a drake then quit soon after in 2011. (Drake I will use in missions)
Duration: 4 weeks (possibly a week if you do not want to go after the checkpoints)
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing. I do not need it since I only have 53 trade orders but there have been times when I have felt maybe I should make a smaller buy order in case suddenly too many buy orders were completed at once. I have been thinking of doing hauling on an alt though. If that works out then reaching the checkpoints will be a lot easier unless I fail....

Bonus Checkpoints: If my NAV (including the loan) reaches these amounts I will raise interest
4 billion - 15% interest
4.5 billion - 30% interest
5 billion - 50% interest (I think there is no chance of me reaching this)

Currently I have..
Sell Orders Total 495,073,084
Wallet Size 604,686,054.50
Total in Escrow 280,067,226
Item Hanger Value 30,000,000

About me
Around May 2011 I started eve on a trial account. Since I heard you could become full member with trial by buying low and selling high I was interested in the game. I have always like games like "Tradewinds" where you can trade to get rich so decided to get a plex from trial. I read guides and googled a bit how easy it was to do it... anyway seemed like it would be hard from what I read. If I succeeded cool if not who cares I can just play another game lol. Eventually I was able to buy a drake and plex before my trial ended. At that time I realized I would have to start back up from no isk which was not fun so did a few missions on my drake but passive tank with trash equip and low skills was boring so quit a few days later.

Now.. fast forward to a few days ago I decided to play again after knowing what to expect so would not be station trading so much that I get tired of it. Guy I know who quit gave me 1.5billion isk which I used to buy a plex with to get to a full account from the 4 hour add plex time thing.

I have read a lot of posts on market discussion so I am pretty sure there is a low chance I will get the loan. If I don't then I am ok still lol so it doesnt matter since I dont need.. if I do get then cool.


Got me really stumbled with this one, if this is legit then don't worry about the 250M isk, you will reach your goal in a few days and no loans are ever filled without collateral here in MD, never, no point is building up a reputation.

If your that guy who likes to write stories: your getting pretty good at it.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#10 - 2013-03-22 21:37:03 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Powster Duskshard wrote:
ISK Loan Amount: 250million
Interest: 6% (low because I do not want to feel forced to station trade forever)
Collateral: None.. I only station traded to plex on trial and bought a drake then quit soon after in 2011. (Drake I will use in missions)
Duration: 4 weeks (possibly a week if you do not want to go after the checkpoints)
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing. I do not need it since I only have 53 trade orders but there have been times when I have felt maybe I should make a smaller buy order in case suddenly too many buy orders were completed at once. I have been thinking of doing hauling on an alt though. If that works out then reaching the checkpoints will be a lot easier unless I fail....

Bonus Checkpoints: If my NAV (including the loan) reaches these amounts I will raise interest
4 billion - 15% interest
4.5 billion - 30% interest
5 billion - 50% interest (I think there is no chance of me reaching this)

Currently I have..
Sell Orders Total 495,073,084
Wallet Size 604,686,054.50
Total in Escrow 280,067,226
Item Hanger Value 30,000,000

About me
Around May 2011 I started eve on a trial account. Since I heard you could become full member with trial by buying low and selling high I was interested in the game. I have always like games like "Tradewinds" where you can trade to get rich so decided to get a plex from trial. I read guides and googled a bit how easy it was to do it... anyway seemed like it would be hard from what I read. If I succeeded cool if not who cares I can just play another game lol. Eventually I was able to buy a drake and plex before my trial ended. At that time I realized I would have to start back up from no isk which was not fun so did a few missions on my drake but passive tank with trash equip and low skills was boring so quit a few days later.

Now.. fast forward to a few days ago I decided to play again after knowing what to expect so would not be station trading so much that I get tired of it. Guy I know who quit gave me 1.5billion isk which I used to buy a plex with to get to a full account from the 4 hour add plex time thing.

I have read a lot of posts on market discussion so I am pretty sure there is a low chance I will get the loan. If I don't then I am ok still lol so it doesnt matter since I dont need.. if I do get then cool.


Got me really stumbled with this one, if this is legit then don't worry about the 250M isk, you will reach your goal in a few days and no loans are ever filled without collateral here in MD, never, no point is building up a reputation.

If your that guy who likes to write stories: your getting pretty good at it.


kara I think you got dumbled by him.

yes
Powster Duskshard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-03-23 03:59:21 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Powster Duskshard wrote:
ISK Loan Amount: 250million
Interest: 6% (low because I do not want to feel forced to station trade forever)
Collateral: None.. I only station traded to plex on trial and bought a drake then quit soon after in 2011. (Drake I will use in missions)
Duration: 4 weeks (possibly a week if you do not want to go after the checkpoints)
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing. I do not need it since I only have 53 trade orders but there have been times when I have felt maybe I should make a smaller buy order in case suddenly too many buy orders were completed at once. I have been thinking of doing hauling on an alt though. If that works out then reaching the checkpoints will be a lot easier unless I fail....

Bonus Checkpoints: If my NAV (including the loan) reaches these amounts I will raise interest
4 billion - 15% interest
4.5 billion - 30% interest
5 billion - 50% interest (I think there is no chance of me reaching this)

Currently I have..
Sell Orders Total 495,073,084
Wallet Size 604,686,054.50
Total in Escrow 280,067,226
Item Hanger Value 30,000,000

About me
Around May 2011 I started eve on a trial account. Since I heard you could become full member with trial by buying low and selling high I was interested in the game. I have always like games like "Tradewinds" where you can trade to get rich so decided to get a plex from trial. I read guides and googled a bit how easy it was to do it... anyway seemed like it would be hard from what I read. If I succeeded cool if not who cares I can just play another game lol. Eventually I was able to buy a drake and plex before my trial ended. At that time I realized I would have to start back up from no isk which was not fun so did a few missions on my drake but passive tank with trash equip and low skills was boring so quit a few days later.

Now.. fast forward to a few days ago I decided to play again after knowing what to expect so would not be station trading so much that I get tired of it. Guy I know who quit gave me 1.5billion isk which I used to buy a plex with to get to a full account from the 4 hour add plex time thing.

I have read a lot of posts on market discussion so I am pretty sure there is a low chance I will get the loan. If I don't then I am ok still lol so it doesnt matter since I dont need.. if I do get then cool.


Got me really stumbled with this one, if this is legit then don't worry about the 250M isk, you will reach your goal in a few days and no loans are ever filled without collateral here in MD, never, no point is building up a reputation.

If your that guy who likes to write stories: your getting pretty good at it.


Well I knew it was hard but if no one ever gets a loan like this which is understandable since I know I wouldnt loan my self isk from what yall could know about me. Least one person is nice enough to explain that.. I read a lot of topics and the posts here sounded like I thought they would but still thought there might be even a small chance if maybe I showed my api logs that I play a lot but if there is 0% chance then that is okay. I will earn the 250 million in 4-5 days at my current rate it will just be slightly annoying till then especially when I found some items that trade millions a day.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6509/2c207df41d29452785aace0.png

Is profit * quantity traded a day a good example of an item worth trading.. there is a lot of competition it seems though..
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#12 - 2013-03-23 04:57:38 UTC
Powster Duskshard wrote:
Kara Books wrote:
Powster Duskshard wrote:
ISK Loan Amount: 250million
Interest: 6% (low because I do not want to feel forced to station trade forever)
Collateral: None.. I only station traded to plex on trial and bought a drake then quit soon after in 2011. (Drake I will use in missions)
Duration: 4 weeks (possibly a week if you do not want to go after the checkpoints)
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing. I do not need it since I only have 53 trade orders but there have been times when I have felt maybe I should make a smaller buy order in case suddenly too many buy orders were completed at once. I have been thinking of doing hauling on an alt though. If that works out then reaching the checkpoints will be a lot easier unless I fail....

Bonus Checkpoints: If my NAV (including the loan) reaches these amounts I will raise interest
4 billion - 15% interest
4.5 billion - 30% interest
5 billion - 50% interest (I think there is no chance of me reaching this)

Currently I have..
Sell Orders Total 495,073,084
Wallet Size 604,686,054.50
Total in Escrow 280,067,226
Item Hanger Value 30,000,000

About me
Around May 2011 I started eve on a trial account. Since I heard you could become full member with trial by buying low and selling high I was interested in the game. I have always like games like "Tradewinds" where you can trade to get rich so decided to get a plex from trial. I read guides and googled a bit how easy it was to do it... anyway seemed like it would be hard from what I read. If I succeeded cool if not who cares I can just play another game lol. Eventually I was able to buy a drake and plex before my trial ended. At that time I realized I would have to start back up from no isk which was not fun so did a few missions on my drake but passive tank with trash equip and low skills was boring so quit a few days later.

Now.. fast forward to a few days ago I decided to play again after knowing what to expect so would not be station trading so much that I get tired of it. Guy I know who quit gave me 1.5billion isk which I used to buy a plex with to get to a full account from the 4 hour add plex time thing.

I have read a lot of posts on market discussion so I am pretty sure there is a low chance I will get the loan. If I don't then I am ok still lol so it doesnt matter since I dont need.. if I do get then cool.


Got me really stumbled with this one, if this is legit then don't worry about the 250M isk, you will reach your goal in a few days and no loans are ever filled without collateral here in MD, never, no point is building up a reputation.

If your that guy who likes to write stories: your getting pretty good at it.


Well I knew it was hard but if no one ever gets a loan like this which is understandable since I know I wouldnt loan my self isk from what yall could know about me. Least one person is nice enough to explain that.. I read a lot of topics and the posts here sounded like I thought they would but still thought there might be even a small chance if maybe I showed my api logs that I play a lot but if there is 0% chance then that is okay. I will earn the 250 million in 4-5 days at my current rate it will just be slightly annoying till then especially when I found some items that trade millions a day.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6509/2c207df41d29452785aace0.png

Is profit * quantity traded a day a good example of an item worth trading.. there is a lot of competition it seems though..


no. that isn't an accurate model.

Your profit is calculated as

(Sell - Buy) * AmmountYouTrade

yes
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
#13 - 2013-03-23 05:05:09 UTC
Alex Grison wrote:
Powster Duskshard wrote:
Kara Books wrote:
Powster Duskshard wrote:
ISK Loan Amount: 250million
Interest: 6% (low because I do not want to feel forced to station trade forever)
Collateral: None.. I only station traded to plex on trial and bought a drake then quit soon after in 2011. (Drake I will use in missions)
Duration: 4 weeks (possibly a week if you do not want to go after the checkpoints)
Risk to you: I can not prove I wont scam so I would say risk is high lol. Even I wouldn't invest in me if I was 1000 times richer.

The ISK from the loan is needed for.... nothing. I do not need it since I only have 53 trade orders but there have been times when I have felt maybe I should make a smaller buy order in case suddenly too many buy orders were completed at once. I have been thinking of doing hauling on an alt though. If that works out then reaching the checkpoints will be a lot easier unless I fail....

Bonus Checkpoints: If my NAV (including the loan) reaches these amounts I will raise interest
4 billion - 15% interest
4.5 billion - 30% interest
5 billion - 50% interest (I think there is no chance of me reaching this)

Currently I have..
Sell Orders Total 495,073,084
Wallet Size 604,686,054.50
Total in Escrow 280,067,226
Item Hanger Value 30,000,000

About me
Around May 2011 I started eve on a trial account. Since I heard you could become full member with trial by buying low and selling high I was interested in the game. I have always like games like "Tradewinds" where you can trade to get rich so decided to get a plex from trial. I read guides and googled a bit how easy it was to do it... anyway seemed like it would be hard from what I read. If I succeeded cool if not who cares I can just play another game lol. Eventually I was able to buy a drake and plex before my trial ended. At that time I realized I would have to start back up from no isk which was not fun so did a few missions on my drake but passive tank with trash equip and low skills was boring so quit a few days later.

Now.. fast forward to a few days ago I decided to play again after knowing what to expect so would not be station trading so much that I get tired of it. Guy I know who quit gave me 1.5billion isk which I used to buy a plex with to get to a full account from the 4 hour add plex time thing.

I have read a lot of posts on market discussion so I am pretty sure there is a low chance I will get the loan. If I don't then I am ok still lol so it doesnt matter since I dont need.. if I do get then cool.


Got me really stumbled with this one, if this is legit then don't worry about the 250M isk, you will reach your goal in a few days and no loans are ever filled without collateral here in MD, never, no point is building up a reputation.

If your that guy who likes to write stories: your getting pretty good at it.


Well I knew it was hard but if no one ever gets a loan like this which is understandable since I know I wouldnt loan my self isk from what yall could know about me. Least one person is nice enough to explain that.. I read a lot of topics and the posts here sounded like I thought they would but still thought there might be even a small chance if maybe I showed my api logs that I play a lot but if there is 0% chance then that is okay. I will earn the 250 million in 4-5 days at my current rate it will just be slightly annoying till then especially when I found some items that trade millions a day.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6509/2c207df41d29452785aace0.png

Is profit * quantity traded a day a good example of an item worth trading.. there is a lot of competition it seems though..


no. that isn't an accurate model.

Your profit is calculated as

(Sell - Buy) * AmmountYouTrade


this is a pretty long quote

seems like alot for 250m

iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!