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the worm ship!

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Mr Lea
Blert
#1 - 2011-10-15 07:09:02 UTC
how good is this ship for like solo pvp other frigates or doing a small gang gank or something?

since it can use 5 drones

hows it good with dps / speed / movement ?
Alara IonStorm
#2 - 2011-10-15 07:54:02 UTC
Honestly she isn't that great. The Worm has some fitting issues, low Rocket Dmg and is not really all that fast.

For Drones an Ishkur is better for a better price. Just in general the Jaguar, Hawk, Slicer, Dramiel, Daredevil, Comet and Hookbill will preform much better in the role of a Combat Frigate.

Not to say it is the worst, it can sport a decent tank, has passable agility and it's DPS is not completely terribad.

But she is nothing special in the 60 Million Price Margin.
Tasiv Deka
End-of-Line
#3 - 2011-10-15 08:02:49 UTC
i agree it isnt great for pvp but if you have to grind standings for a faction it is a blast running 1s and even 2s in it

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.

Mr Lea
Blert
#4 - 2011-10-15 09:36:24 UTC
alright thanks for the replys
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#5 - 2011-10-15 10:03:24 UTC
Way I see it...for 60 mil, you can buy a frigate that can be kited by most other frigates and field 5 light drones, and maybe have a decent enough tank not to be wtfpwnt by a passing thrasher, or you can buy a dominix, which can also be kited by frigates and field 5 light drones, but will wtfpwn that passing thrasher.

thhief ghabmoef

Baron Agamemnon
Black Raven Corsairs
#6 - 2011-10-15 11:39:39 UTC
Unlike its bigger brothers the Worm is a lot of meh.

In some ways its can be a faster Harpy and kite:

[Worm, Kite]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Micro B66 Core Augmentation
Damage Control II

Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 150
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Warp Disruptor II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
[empty high slot]
Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5


But I would rather use an ishkur in close range comabt.
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2011-10-15 11:56:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Baron Agamemnon wrote:

[Worm, Kite]

If you are gonna Kite as a Caldari Frig Pilot the Gold Standard is so much cheaper.

[Caldari Navy Hookbill, Can't Track this.]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Warp Disruptor II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I


[Caldari Navy Hookbill, Can't Lock this]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening
Warp Disruptor II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I

^^^ Mostly Limited to Frigates ^^^


DPS is about the same but it is so much faster and more agile. The complete EWAR F%@# is just icing.
Dravidshky
Falling Outside The Normal Moral Constraints
#8 - 2011-10-15 12:19:24 UTC
I would like to see the worms drone bay bonus being replaced with a drone damage bonus like the other gurista ships and having its drone bay increased to 50m3, and maybe a role bonus for the launchers to give them a slight dps boost.
At least then it would have more drone dps than the ishkur.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#9 - 2011-10-19 20:52:38 UTC
I'm going to guess that the drone bay bonuses on some ships are from before bandwidth was introduced?

Seems like they effectively negated the useful part of the bonus on those ships....

thhief ghabmoef

Chessur
Fweddit
Free Range Chikuns
#10 - 2011-10-19 22:02:59 UTC
Worm has an unbreakable tank for a frig- provided you can somehow catch and hold onto something- let your warriors do the work.

Fit like this:

[Worm, Worm fit]

Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Thorn Rocket
Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Thorn Rocket
[Empty High slot]

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Warp Scrambler II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

Shield Power Relay II
Micro K-Exhaust Core Augmentation
Shield Power Relay II

Small Core Defence Field Extender II
Small Core Defence Field Purger II
Small Core Defence Field Purger II


Warrior II x5


You have a utility high...

As you can see, your speed sucks, and your dps sucks.. but you have a passive shield gen of 118hp/s OMG nothing can kill it <3
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#11 - 2011-10-19 22:33:20 UTC
Chessur wrote:
Worm has an unbreakable tank for a frig- provided you can somehow catch and hold onto something- let your warriors do the work.

Fit like this:

[Worm, Worm fit]

Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Thorn Rocket
Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Thorn Rocket
[Empty High slot]

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Warp Scrambler II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

Shield Power Relay II
Micro K-Exhaust Core Augmentation
Shield Power Relay II

Small Core Defence Field Extender II
Small Core Defence Field Purger II
Small Core Defence Field Purger II


Warrior II x5


You have a utility high...

As you can see, your speed sucks, and your dps sucks.. but you have a passive shield gen of 118hp/s OMG nothing can kill it <3

no web....the other ship can simply fly out of scram range...

thhief ghabmoef

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#12 - 2011-10-20 01:03:20 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
I'm going to guess that the drone bay bonuses on some ships are from before bandwidth was introduced?

Seems like they effectively negated the useful part of the bonus on those ships....


That's true of the Ishkur and Ishtar, though the Ishtar didn't lose anything to the introduction of bandwidth. The Ishkur used to be able to field 5 mediums, which was somewhat insane. Bandwidth also hit the Myrmidon somewhat hard, though arguably this was a very good balancing move. The real victim was the Eos, although there was a minor problem with it outperforming any field CS in combat....

Guristas ships weren't, at that time, drone ships in the first place.
Mr Lea
Blert
#13 - 2011-10-20 02:18:49 UTC
well thanks for all the replies, but i fell in love with stealth bombing.. xD!