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Anti-Ganker Barge Fits.

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#261 - 2013-08-20 19:38:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Gizznitt Malikite
Sasha Rama wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Sasha Rama wrote:
Commodore Quaritch wrote:
this thread should now be locked.

It no longer holds relavent conversation or contributions.


Alt of Gizzum, Bugsy, or Lady Newbqueen?


I'll claim Sasha Rama as my alt... That way I'm a switch hitter that causes damage from both sides. I mean, Sasha's post really exposed major gaps in Simo-Cryha's knowledge!

Bugsy, who do you want to claim as an alt?

and Lady newbqueen, that's a pretty awesome nickname!



I am an alt of Gizznit Malikite and I support this thread and endourse all of Simo's fits. Twisted


Cry Also, we support estimated hit points and dual tanking our ships. Let's go reclaim those Caldari ice belts!!! Nothing can destroy us when Simo fitted! Cry
Commodore Quaritch
Doomheim
#262 - 2013-08-20 19:48:38 UTC
Don't a single one of you get it?

Your helping simo cryha dissiminate his fits and information by continueing to post in this thread, that is why he isen't even posting, your doing all of the work for him. With every single person that reads this thread and applies the fits, it's helping to strangle ganking and your helping him to do it by keeping his thread at the top of the forum, rather you agree with him or not!

He is trying to hurt gankers and strangle out a long tradition of fun in this game. Stop helping him keep his post in the forum.
Grand Admiral Simo-Hayha
Vigilante Carebears
#263 - 2013-08-20 19:49:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Grand Admiral Simo-Hayha
*Claps*
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#264 - 2013-08-20 20:06:07 UTC
Commodore Quaritch wrote:
Don't a single one of you get it?

Your helping simo cryha dissiminate his fits and information by continueing to post in this thread, that is why he isen't even posting, your doing all of the work for him. With every single person that reads this thread and applies the fits, it's helping to strangle ganking and your helping him to do it by keeping his thread at the top of the forum, rather you agree with him or not!

He is trying to hurt gankers and strangle out a long tradition of fun in this game. Stop helping him keep his post in the forum.


I'm not against helping newbies, and I'm not against herp-a-derp OP taking credit. What I am against is the OP passing off herp-a-derp information to newbies and calling it help.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#265 - 2013-08-20 20:09:06 UTC
Commodore Quaritch wrote:
Don't a single one of you get it?

Your helping simo cryha dissiminate his fits and information by continueing to post in this thread, that is why he isen't even posting, your doing all of the work for him. With every single person that reads this thread and applies the fits, it's helping to strangle ganking and your helping him to do it by keeping his thread at the top of the forum, rather you agree with him or not!

He is trying to hurt gankers and strangle out a long tradition of fun in this game. Stop helping him keep his post in the forum.


Sasha Rama wrote:
Stay on topic.... if the thread wanders and meanders without adding to the discussion of fitting mining barges, it will get locked! We don't want that!
Sasha Rama
Doomheim
#266 - 2013-08-20 21:53:51 UTC
Quote:
He is trying to hurt gankers and strangle out a long tradition of fun in this game.


Awesome.
Roman Adaiah
Dark Trade Network
#267 - 2013-08-23 11:02:43 UTC
Bravo, Good thread
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#268 - 2013-08-23 18:52:13 UTC
Commodore Quaritch wrote:
trying


So?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#269 - 2013-08-27 11:06:40 UTC
Good intention but here in S&I the thread does not get the attantion it deserves!

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#270 - 2013-08-28 02:56:56 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
CCP has buffed Barge HP to such a level that you don't need to even think about fitting your ship. Many of the World of War Crack players that had transited over had failed horribely at fitting a tank, ''shield and armor, lets have the best of both''. Since CCP seen new nuggets and botters leaving the game in droves they pooped their little pants at quarterly PLEX sales so have made miner ganking in high imposible to be profitable. As long as you have Harvesters in your highs and upgrades in the low you are fine.

I'm waiting on CCP to fit my attack battlecruiser for me... actually I take that back I'm waiting for Solar citizen to start up and the sandbox version that they are working on.

This post is short sited.. any barge can be ganked.. even the ones listed here.. you just need a team.. which is the way it should be.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Stalker ofeveryone
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#271 - 2013-08-29 11:17:38 UTC
There is no such thing as a 'gank proof' mining ship. End of story.
Grand Admiral Simo-Hayha
Vigilante Carebears
#272 - 2013-09-14 20:29:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Grand Admiral Simo-Hayha
Stalker ofeveryone wrote:
There is no such thing as a 'gank proof' mining ship. End of story.


Yes, there is. End of Story.

The Incredible Invincible Gank Proof Barge - Skiff

Shields: 16,514 HP
Armor: 6,600 HP
Hull: 7,500 HP

Resistances:
70/85/89/82
73/55/49/39
60/60/60/60

High Slot

1x Ice/Ore Harvester

Medium Slot

1x Medium Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Shield II
1x Kinetic Deflection Field II
1x Thermic Dissipation Field II

Low Slot

1x Damage Control II
1x Adaptive Nano Plating II

Rigs

2x Medium Core Defense Field Extenders

Delux Balanced - Skiff

Shields: 11,796
Armor: 6,600 HP
Hull: 7,500 HP

Resistances:
65/80/85/79
60/35/25/10
0/0/0/0

High Slot

1x Ice/Ore Harvester

Medium Slot

1x Medium Shield Extender II
1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1x Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field
1x Limited Kinetic Deflection Field I
1x Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I

Low Slot
2x Ice Harvester II

Rigs:

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
1x Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I

That is before Orca boosts. Personally, I prefer the indestructable one at the top, because I have never lost a barge since its creation, seeing as how it can't be destroyed by gankers. All of this will be explained in the next thread I make, Gankbane 2.0

Coming Soon.
Sosueme Hapytuedispt
Doomheim
#273 - 2013-09-14 21:00:27 UTC
Quote:
Yes, there is.


Yeah, I guess there is. In 0.6 and above it would be impossible to destroy that barge without billions of isk of gank ships just to kill one little 'ol skiff.

Skiffs are faster cycle too with Orca boosts, I use them all the time.

Thank You, i'll be switching immediately.
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#274 - 2013-09-15 08:18:54 UTC
Grand Admiral Simo-Hayha wrote:
Stalker ofeveryone wrote:
There is no such thing as a 'gank proof' mining ship. End of story.


Yes, there is. End of Story.

The Incredible Invincible Gank Proof Barge - Skiff

Shields: 16,514 HP
Armor: 6,600 HP
Hull: 7,500 HP

Resistances:
70/85/89/82
73/55/49/39
60/60/60/60

High Slot

1x Ice/Ore Harvester

Medium Slot

1x Medium Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Shield II
1x Kinetic Deflection Field II
1x Thermic Dissipation Field II

Low Slot

1x Damage Control II
1x Adaptive Nano Plating II

Rigs

2x Medium Core Defense Field Extenders

Delux Balanced - Skiff

Shields: 11,796
Armor: 6,600 HP
Hull: 7,500 HP

Resistances:
65/80/85/79
60/35/25/10
0/0/0/0

High Slot

1x Ice/Ore Harvester

Medium Slot

1x Medium Shield Extender II
1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1x Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field
1x Limited Kinetic Deflection Field I
1x Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I

Low Slot
2x Ice Harvester II

Rigs:

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
1x Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I

That is before Orca boosts. Personally, I prefer the indestructable one at the top, because I have never lost a barge since its creation, seeing as how it can't be destroyed by gankers. All of this will be explained in the next thread I make, Gankbane 2.0

Coming Soon.


What is the EHP and yield with Orca support for the 'Delux Balanced' fit above ? I haven't checked it but I'll be surprised if it is as good yield as a reasonably tanked Mackinaw.

I have looked at a number of the fits in this thread and as others have commented they are largely impractical, not that good, and in the case of a battleship fit I personally checked out have very poor yield. I have heard the Grand Admiral helps & assists miners in asteroid belts which is kind of him but most of these fittings are not that good.

Nowadays suicide gankers are not interested in the ISK return that a gank may bring - the destruction and any tears they may collect are reward enough. If they want to gank you enough they will succeed.

" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. " Rick. " Find out what ? " Abraham. " They're screwing with the wrong people. " Rick. Season four.   ' The Walking Dead. ' .
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#275 - 2013-09-16 13:37:37 UTC
Commodore Quaritch wrote:
Don't a single one of you get it?

Your helping simo cryha dissiminate his fits and information by continueing to post in this thread, that is why he isen't even posting, your doing all of the work for him. With every single person that reads this thread and applies the fits, it's helping to strangle ganking and your helping him to do it by keeping his thread at the top of the forum, rather you agree with him or not!

He is trying to hurt gankers and strangle out a long tradition of fun in this game. Stop helping him keep his post in the forum.

The tears, dude. It's supposed to be the *miners* crying.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#276 - 2013-09-16 13:39:48 UTC
Grand Admiral Simo-Hayha wrote:
Stalker ofeveryone wrote:
There is no such thing as a 'gank proof' mining ship. End of story.


Yes, there is. End of Story.


No, there isn't. Even the mighty Veldnaught can be brought down, if a sufficiently large number of motivated people were to wish it so.

End of story.
Sosueme Hapytuedispt
Doomheim
#277 - 2013-09-16 16:43:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Sosueme Hapytuedispt
Quote:

No, there isn't. Even the mighty Veldnaught can be brought down, if a sufficiently large number of motivated people were to wish it so.

End of story.



LoL. No, it can't. Post a kill, that isen't a war dec, and in high sec, IE Proof, or your opinion is invalidated. Period.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#278 - 2013-09-16 16:49:10 UTC
Sosueme Hapytuedispt wrote:
Quote:

No, there isn't. Even the mighty Veldnaught can be brought down, if a sufficiently large number of motivated people were to wish it so.

End of story.



LoL. No, it can't. Post a kill, that isen't a war dec, and in high sec, IE Proof, or your opinion is invalidated. Period.
Chiribba himself acknowledges the possiblity. Mind you, it *is* highly unlikely, because the amount of coordinatin necessary would be beyond epic, but anything flown in space by a player cen be ganked, if enough folks really want it down.

Learn how the game works; you won't make as many silly statements.
Sosueme Hapytuedispt
Doomheim
#279 - 2013-09-16 16:54:21 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Sosueme Hapytuedispt wrote:
Quote:

No, there isn't. Even the mighty Veldnaught can be brought down, if a sufficiently large number of motivated people were to wish it so.

End of story.



LoL. No, it can't. Post a kill, that isen't a war dec, and in high sec, IE Proof, or your opinion is invalidated. Period.
Chiribba himself acknowledges the possiblity. Mind you, it *is* highly unlikely, because the amount of coordinatin necessary would be beyond epic, but anything flown in space by a player cen be ganked, if enough folks really want it down.

Learn how the game works; you won't make as many silly statements.


You cannot gank the veldnaught, and until you prove otherwise, you are simply ignorant.

Thanks for proving the ultimate point though.

His mining Veldnaught is an ungankable mining ship.

Point proven.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#280 - 2013-09-16 18:36:12 UTC
Sosueme Hapytuedispt wrote:
You cannot gank the veldnaught, and until you prove otherwise, you are simply ignorant.


Assuming that it's pimped out (X type hardeners, A type ENAMs, Slaves, Legion boosts, etc), the Veldnaught has a maximum of 13.3m EHP. A tornado volley is about 10k damage. That's ~1400 players max to gank the veldnaught. There are organized groups in the game that can get more than 1400 people in the same place. The veldnaught is possible to gank. Q.E.D.


Arguing that it is impossible solely because it hasn't been done yet is ridiculous.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon