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Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#21 - 2013-03-20 09:22:36 UTC
If you go too a strip club I am sure you will find more poles than yo can handle.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#22 - 2013-03-20 11:08:15 UTC
Andski wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Agreed. Just wondering if there was any theoretical musings though on there not being frozen poles and how that could happen.




EDIT: Lack of tilt maybe ?


Mercury has no tilt and its poles are cold enough for water to stay permanently frozen. Venus, however, has such a thick atmosphere that the poles and the equator have the same average temperatures.



Not Temperate Planets vis-a-vis EVE.

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Anunzi
Solace Corp
#23 - 2013-03-20 11:17:49 UTC
Andski wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Agreed. Just wondering if there was any theoretical musings though on there not being frozen poles and how that could happen.




EDIT: Lack of tilt maybe ?


Mercury has no tilt and its poles are cold enough for water to stay permanently frozen. Venus, however, has such a thick atmosphere that the poles and the equator have the same average temperatures.





Also, Venus’ rotation is so f*cked up that its north pole points almost along its orbital track, consequently its poles would not suffer from the same lack of light/heat that a more conventional rotation would, even if it were lacking its super dense (92 times that of earth!) atmosphere.

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James Stag
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-03-20 11:20:08 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
If you go too a strip club I am sure you will find more poles than yo can handle.



How much pole can you handle sweetheart ?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#25 - 2013-03-20 12:13:31 UTC
Anunzi wrote:
Andski wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Agreed. Just wondering if there was any theoretical musings though on there not being frozen poles and how that could happen.




EDIT: Lack of tilt maybe ?


Mercury has no tilt and its poles are cold enough for water to stay permanently frozen. Venus, however, has such a thick atmosphere that the poles and the equator have the same average temperatures.





Also, Venus’ rotation is so f*cked up that its north pole points almost along its orbital track, consequently its poles would not suffer from the same lack of light/heat that a more conventional rotation would, even if it were lacking its super dense (92 times that of earth!) atmosphere.



Wrong as all get out: "Venus isn't tilted on its axis very much. Earth is tilted about 23°. Venus is only tilted 3°. "

http://www.windows2universe.org/venus/venus_polar_regions.html

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#26 - 2013-03-20 12:15:07 UTC
Try Uranus.

"Uranus is the tilted planet. The axis through its North and South Poles is tilted by 98°."

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#27 - 2013-03-20 12:27:29 UTC
To be fair, it's a good point and observation. Then again, such oddity of Eve wouldn't be alone. Eve's wormholes, for instance, don't seem to behave like you would think either...for instance, shouldn't something akin to reverse-TiDi high on speed hit you when you're really close to one? And a ship that is vulnerable to conventional weapons fire shouldn't be able to survive getting near a wormhole.

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Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#28 - 2013-03-20 12:30:37 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
To be fair, it's a good point and observation. Then again, such oddity of Eve wouldn't be alone. Eve's wormholes, for instance, don't seem to behave like you would think either...for instance, shouldn't something akin to reverse-TiDi high on speed hit you when you're really close to one? And a ship that is vulnerable to conventional weapons fire shouldn't be able to survive getting near a wormhole.



Think your mistaken a wormhole to a black hole Smile

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#29 - 2013-03-20 12:34:04 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
And a ship that is vulnerable to conventional weapons fire shouldn't be able to survive getting near a wormhole.



We don't know for sure of course.....but on this point I think you mean Black Hole.

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Anunzi
Solace Corp
#30 - 2013-03-20 12:34:59 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Try Uranus.

"Uranus is the tilted planet. The axis through its North and South Poles is tilted by 98°."



herp de durp, getting my planets all :confused:

"It was the way she said it, Rimmer, to rhyme with scum"
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#31 - 2013-03-20 12:35:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Stan'din wrote:
Sobaan Tali wrote:
To be fair, it's a good point and observation. Then again, such oddity of Eve wouldn't be alone. Eve's wormholes, for instance, don't seem to behave like you would think either...for instance, shouldn't something akin to reverse-TiDi high on speed hit you when you're really close to one? And a ship that is vulnerable to conventional weapons fire shouldn't be able to survive getting near a wormhole.



Think your mistaken a wormhole to a black hole Smile


Beat me to it ! Smile

I am dissapoint that EVE Players know so little about RL Space.



EDIT: But then I'm the one always going on and on about the downfall of the educational system.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#32 - 2013-03-20 12:37:30 UTC
Anunzi wrote:


herp de durp, getting my planets all :confused:




This is the danger of trusting Forum Posts.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#33 - 2013-03-20 12:38:57 UTC
But anyway back on subject. The first DEV to answer this properly may get a beer this fanfest

Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican.
Anunzi
Solace Corp
#34 - 2013-03-20 12:39:20 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Anunzi wrote:


herp de durp, getting my planets all :confused:




This is the danger of trusting Forum Posts.



No no, its the danger of posting from memory instead of checking my facts first!

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#35 - 2013-03-20 12:44:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Anunzi wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Anunzi wrote:


herp de durp, getting my planets all :confused:




This is the danger of trusting Forum Posts.



No no, its the danger of posting from memory instead of checking my facts first!



Roger. Over.

(No, Roger Oveure.) Smile

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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
#36 - 2013-03-20 12:46:50 UTC
Admittedly, I really hope that one day CCP manage to fit real-life planetary movement and orbits in to game, could you imagine a game that is so real that the planet you made a safespot on then moved slightly 30 days later? Would be good, but irritating i guess ^^
-Buhhd
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#37 - 2013-03-20 13:07:47 UTC
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Admittedly, I really hope that one day CCP manage to fit real-life planetary movement and orbits in to game, could you imagine a game that is so real that the planet you made a safespot on then moved slightly 30 days later? Would be good, but irritating i guess ^^
-Buhhd



The moons would move too. Then how do you find your POS ? Bad idea is bad idea.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#38 - 2013-03-20 13:15:02 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Admittedly, I really hope that one day CCP manage to fit real-life planetary movement and orbits in to game, could you imagine a game that is so real that the planet you made a safespot on then moved slightly 30 days later? Would be good, but irritating i guess ^^
-Buhhd



The moons would move too. Then how do you find your POS ? Bad idea is bad idea.







.... If your POS is orbiting the moon why would your POS not move with the moon ? come on people use those braincells Cool

Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#39 - 2013-03-20 13:24:36 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Give it a few years and we wont have any eitherBlink

good point.


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Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-03-20 13:27:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Markku Laaksonen
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Admittedly, I really hope that one day CCP manage to fit real-life planetary movement and orbits in to game, could you imagine a game that is so real that the planet you made a safespot on then moved slightly 30 days later? Would be good, but irritating i guess ^^
-Buhhd



The moons would move too. Then how do you find your POS ? Bad idea is bad idea.


BMs could be made relative to the nearest whatever.

As a station orbits a moon as it orbits a planet as it orbits a sun as it orbits some big ass black hole/galactic center of mass, your instant undock BM remains instant relative to the station because the BM would be made relative to the station, rather than as a fixed location in space with some x,y,z coordinate.

As your POS spins around some orbit with its moon, you can BM the POS directly or tactical BMs relative to the POS. As the POS moves, the tactical BMs move with it, becasue as above, the BM was made relative to the POS, and not some fixed position in space.

Maybe making a BM relative to some position would be automatic and the nearest object would be chosen, or you could select "I want this BM 16 AU from that station to be relative to the station, rather than this other planet which is closer." Not sure how that would be done from a developer point of view, but that's how I imagine it working.

Edit: fixed typos/formatting.

Edit: As for temperate planets not having visibly cold polar regions, seems like a simple oversight from the art guys.

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