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23/7 mission running?

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twchris13579 Aivoras
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-18 21:27:07 UTC
First of all Im not sure where to post this nor am I sure if its even going to matter. I put in a petition under the exploits tab but idk how long before a GM gets back to me.

I currently operate mostly around the Ikami solar system and Hampinen and have seen this for quite a number of weeks, just never really noticed until now. These players are seemingly always on.

There is a group of characters, more then 20 I believe that seem to be bots. I currently see 9 Raven Navy Issues all with the same name running seperate missions here in Hampinen and each of these ravens is followed by a noctis with a random name of letters. Looking back I have seen these ravens every single time i come through this system and I play quite often. Im not sure if it is indeed a bot or just someone with a lot of accounts but I feel I should bring it to your attention. (zyysuyrkcnq) (ahcwzivxis) (ec dbyn) are the names of a few of the noctis pilots but I cant tell the ravens pilots names as they are all in missions and changed the name of the ship to Raven. Maybe some griefers would like to come get some fancy faction BS kills if the GMs cant do anything about it?

And again Im not sure where to post this so feel free to move this thread to the correct forum if need be.
Orlacc
#2 - 2013-03-18 21:32:53 UTC
Sounds like a bot program I have heard of.....some might say multi-box, but separate missions? GJ reporting 'em.

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baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#3 - 2013-03-18 21:33:10 UTC
Report them as bots using to UI tool but only do this if you are sure they are bots.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2013-03-18 21:34:59 UTC
A GM will never get back to you, CCP does not disclose what actions they take (if any) in regards to bans or botting. .


You basically have to treat such petitions like a message in a bottle, and just hope that someone gets your message (in a bottle... yeah).

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

twchris13579 Aivoras
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-03-18 21:36:51 UTC  |  Edited by: twchris13579 Aivoras
baltec1 wrote:
Report them as bots using to UI tool but only do this if you are sure they are bots.



^How? I tried the method that was listed but dont get the option to do it. I think it was removed maybe. And I just got a response from the GMs, that was the fastest they have ever answered a petition for me lol less than 10 minutes!

Edit: The GM reply was just a "yes thank you for the info" message lol
Whitehound
#6 - 2013-03-18 21:44:30 UTC
twchris13579 Aivoras wrote:
... Maybe some griefers would like to come get some fancy faction BS kills if the GMs cant do anything about it? ...

You call them "griefers" but now you need their help. LolRoll

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baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#7 - 2013-03-18 21:47:46 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
twchris13579 Aivoras wrote:
... Maybe some griefers would like to come get some fancy faction BS kills if the GMs cant do anything about it? ...

You call them "griefers" but now you need their help. LolRoll


If he provides a ship scan result with a nice selection of goodies we will happily send a detatchment to deal with them.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2013-03-18 22:21:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
twchris13579 Aivoras wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Report them as bots using to UI tool but only do this if you are sure they are bots.



^How? I tried the method that was listed but dont get the option to do it. I think it was removed maybe. And I just got a response from the GMs, that was the fastest they have ever answered a petition for me lol less than 10 minutes!

Edit: The GM reply was just a "yes thank you for the info" message lol


Unless it's changed recently, right click on their name, select report bot from the drop down menu. As baltec1 said if you get the chance to ship scan them and the possible loot is shiny enough then there are multiple groups in the game who will be more than happy to purge them.

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Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-03-19 00:37:56 UTC
There is literally an infestation of 1 man corps all the corporations are named after the one character in the Corp. All fly Raven Navy Issue and are similarry fitted. Usually somewhat pimped ships actually. I've seen them in all mission hubs i've been too.
bufnitza calatoare
#10 - 2013-03-19 01:06:54 UTC
are they in a npc corp?

if not.. make an alt throw him into a quick corp and war dec them every time they make a new corp.
blackmail them into payng a ransom. but report your actions to ccp if they pay.

we managed to get a group in khanid to pay us 1.5b, we reported them to ccp afterward and the entire corp was perma banned.. 50+ gone lol.
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-03-19 01:23:03 UTC
bufnitza calatoare wrote:
are they in a npc corp?

if not.. make an alt throw him into a quick corp and war dec them every time they make a new corp.
blackmail them into payng a ransom. but report your actions to ccp if they pay.

we managed to get a group in khanid to pay us 1.5b, we reported them to ccp afterward and the entire corp was perma banned.. 50+ gone lol.


Yes but did you get to keep the isk?

Maybe I should use my Research alt that is holding a corp for me to war dec them, See if they will pay a ransom without researching the corp. =)
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#12 - 2013-03-19 01:53:44 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Cura Ursus
Orlacc wrote:
Sounds like a bot program I have heard of.....some might say multi-box, but separate missions? GJ reporting 'em.


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twchris13579 Aivoras
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-03-19 03:47:15 UTC
Seems like I hit the botting goldmine lol. Just checked and they are all still there flying their Ravens. GM replied to me nearly 5 hours ago and seems like they have done nothing. Maybe if enough people post here CCP will take more notice and see that we really do have an infestation as an above poster so clearly stated lol.

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#14 - 2013-03-19 03:56:07 UTC
No, don't post here. Posting here will achieve nothing (except, perhaps, a visit from ISD to lock the thread, purge character names, and give you a short forum posting holiday).

Go ingame and report them as bots. If there are enough reports showing that these characters are indeed on for more than 12 hours a day, that should give the security team more ammo for their bot-war.
bufnitza calatoare
#15 - 2013-03-19 04:38:18 UTC
Tuttomenui II wrote:
bufnitza calatoare wrote:
are they in a npc corp?

if not.. make an alt throw him into a quick corp and war dec them every time they make a new corp.
blackmail them into payng a ransom. but report your actions to ccp if they pay.

we managed to get a group in khanid to pay us 1.5b, we reported them to ccp afterward and the entire corp was perma banned.. 50+ gone lol.


Yes but did you get to keep the isk?

Maybe I should use my Research alt that is holding a corp for me to war dec them, See if they will pay a ransom without researching the corp. =)



yes we got to keep the isk. as we kept ccp in the loop.
Yigal Tzadok
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-03-19 05:10:46 UTC
stop snitchin
twchris13579 Aivoras
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-03-19 06:24:25 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
No, don't post here. Posting here will achieve nothing (except, perhaps, a visit from ISD to lock the thread, purge character names, and give you a short forum posting holiday).

Go ingame and report them as bots. If there are enough reports showing that these characters are indeed on for more than 12 hours a day, that should give the security team more ammo for their bot-war.



Again I dont see the report bot option anywhere. Right clicked on name, clicked portrait, checked everything I could think of. I only get the report isk spammer option.
bufnitza calatoare
#18 - 2013-03-19 08:44:09 UTC
twchris13579 Aivoras wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
No, don't post here. Posting here will achieve nothing (except, perhaps, a visit from ISD to lock the thread, purge character names, and give you a short forum posting holiday).

Go ingame and report them as bots. If there are enough reports showing that these characters are indeed on for more than 12 hours a day, that should give the security team more ammo for their bot-war.



Again I dont see the report bot option anywhere. Right clicked on name, clicked portrait, checked everything I could think of. I only get the report isk spammer option.



took me a while to find it...

lemme login and see..

ok right click in said pilot/s

when the basic info comes up you will see in the top left hand corner a icon to on, at the bottom it has the option of report bot.

there you go
asteroidjas
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#19 - 2013-03-19 14:11:46 UTC
I've personally found HUNDREDS of characters doing the exact thing you describe....somehow in the space of a couple of hours i can find a bunch of bots with NO dev tools....i'll flag them to see just how long they stay around...turns out, they are doing something that CCP's anti botting protocols can't find. I've watched these guys be around long enough to skill into T2 launchers. I even just stumbled on a new set the other day...(yes, i am even accidentally finding these guys, where CCP is looking for and MISSING them)

Oh, and in November with Retribution, CCP decided they didn't want players ganking other players in missions, as after that AI update, the rats retarget the new pilots on grid within seconds...leaving not enough time to survive in a gank Teir3 BC...using Talos since it has the best DPS. Could use Nado's for alpha, but that would require a heck of alot more than 2. (was possible before that patch to follow them into the mission, and wait for them to hit ~60 shield then melt them with two 1,800 dps talos's (in a .5-.6 system)

But that is a mute point anyway since i was not able to pull off any more ganks after that patch since my gank pilots were already getting shot before i could get close enough to facemelt the bot's CNR.

It is fun to break their missions though....go in and steal their mission critical loots, they won't attack you, but you break their code for a short time as it figures out what to do.

But even when you report 50+ accounts at the same time, and they all get banned, CCP won't give you even so much as a "thanks for your help". Its funny how they'll give "glitch" snitches a plex for their effort, but when you find hundreds of bots they somehow missed...zero-zip-nada. Well fine, you don't want to encourage me to do YOUR job...fine, i'll stop doing the work for you.

And yes, i'm pretty sure these are bots, as a pilot running multi-box software would have a hard time manipulating 20 different accounts each in their own mission with different objectives (for over 10 hours every day). Also, these bots never tried to make the kill-rights they had on me public.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#20 - 2013-03-19 18:12:42 UTC
Us drone users have learned that there are ways of handling the AI. For example:

First send in a cloaky ship. Wait for the NPCs to dwindle down to 1 or 2 remaining, then send in the DPS ships. Issue: You need more ships now as the target will have their shields in good shape.

Use an extra ship and spider tank the group.

The AI will only switch once every couple of minutes, or when a target goes away. So send in a sacrificial small ship, let it get destroyed by the NPCs (or warp it out real fast), wait for them to go back to your target, then send in the gank ships. You will have a minute or two before the AI switching timer will cause them to switch to you.

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