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Moa vs Thorax
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Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#1 - 2013-03-18 12:59:25 UTC
Now since the T1 cruiser tweak I've been thinking which of these are now the best against each other. Pre retribution it was the thorax

what do you guys think ?

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feihcsiM
THE B0YS
#2 - 2013-03-18 13:06:13 UTC
One looks like a penls
One looks like a chicken

This thread is going places

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Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#3 - 2013-03-18 13:14:29 UTC
feihcsiM wrote:
One looks like a penls
One looks like a chicken

This thread is going places



Great argument you have made there, do you communicate with humans often ?

Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican.
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#4 - 2013-03-18 13:29:02 UTC
Stan'din wrote:
feihcsiM wrote:
One looks like a penls
One looks like a chicken

This thread is going places



Great argument you have made there, do you communicate with humans often ?


hahaha

Anyway, if you;re talking 1v1 it'd be pretty close and just personal preference and style. I'd favour the moa, and the shield buffer just suits it so well and allowing for triple mag stabs gives a great result. Such simple ships though, 9 times out of 10 it's just a straight up brawler.
feihcsiM
THE B0YS
#5 - 2013-03-18 13:33:12 UTC
Stan'din wrote:
feihcsiM wrote:
One looks like a penls
One looks like a chicken

This thread is going places



Great argument you have made there, do you communicate with humans often ?


Almost as often as I specify 'which of these are now the best against each other' when asking for fits.

Most likely to win 'fits wot I gots from battleclinic'?
Most likely to win 1v1 both blaster shield fit?
Most likely to win 1v1 different tanks?
Most likely to win both kite fit?
Most likely to win 1v1 - one kite one brawler?
Best in gang situation with/without logi support & links?
Quickest/most suitable to finish missions?
Fight starting at zero/range?
Best cyno bait?
Cheapest?
Which looks most like a chicken?

?





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Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#6 - 2013-03-18 15:16:51 UTC
I'd say thorax, it's more likely to have ecm and light scout drones up it's sleeves

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Denuo Secus
#7 - 2013-03-18 15:36:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Denuo Secus
Thorax is way faster compared to the Moa, and has much less tank. Moa is a combat cruiser, Thorax an attack cruiser. Moa is more straight forward, Thorax more flexible.
Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#8 - 2013-03-18 16:39:54 UTC
Seems they both have pro's and con's. thanks for the input P

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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#9 - 2013-03-18 16:42:10 UTC
haha this thread, but seriously I would make my choice completly based on pilot skill training.

Shield skills VS tank skills
Drone skills and don't forget about the skills you want to train I.E. where your gonna take your pilot, either Gallante or Caldari direction.

their both good ships, seen them both used, Used the Mao myself way back when.

Also!, don't forget about fleet comp, what do your fleet mates like to use more? what will the fleet benefit more from, a short range DPS brawler I.E. armor blobs or small fleet 7man or smaller gangs that need something more survivable under those types of situations.

the Thorax, also tends to get primaries very early in the fight because its basically used to come real close to the biggest enemy and start putting out that crazy DPS that is can do point blank, Mao, not done any small gangs with Mao being part of the comp so cant say much more then that.

Im not a pro when it comes to choosing fleet comps but that's pretty much all I know.

good luck and have fun with your choice.
Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#10 - 2013-03-18 16:44:45 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
haha this thread, but seriously I would make my choice completly based on pilot skill training.

Shield skills VS tank skills
Drone skills and don't forget about the skills you want to train I.E. where your gonna take your pilot, either Gallante or Caldari direction.

their both good ships, seen them both used, Used the Mao myself way back when.

Also!, don't forget about fleet comp, what do your fleet mates like to use more? what will the fleet benefit more from, a short range DPS brawler I.E. armor blobs or small fleet 7man or smaller gangs that need something more survivable under those types of situations.

the Thorax, also tends to get primaries very early in the fight because its basically used to come real close to the biggest enemy and start putting out that crazy DPS that is can do point blank, Mao, not done any small gangs with Mao being part of the comp so cant say much more then that.

Im not a pro when it comes to choosing fleet comps but that's pretty much all I know.

good luck and have fun with your choice.



I can fly both very well, i was just trying to create a little discussion lol, i mean since retribution ***** changed

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Defcanz
Intelligence Operation NetCorp
#11 - 2013-03-18 18:10:42 UTC
Drake Doe wrote:
I'd say thorax, it's more likely to have ecm and light scout drones up it's sleeves


I have a MOA you can take a shot or two at. Big smile

Twisted Defcanz Twisted
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-03-18 18:35:14 UTC
If 2 r3tards beat each other with sticks, who will win? The answer is moot. They both suck then, and still do now. Both will meet the horribly nerfed cane and be butchered by it.P
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#13 - 2013-03-18 19:43:55 UTC
Defcanz wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
I'd say thorax, it's more likely to have ecm and light scout drones up it's sleeves


I have a MOA you can take a shot or two at. Big smile

Twisted Defcanz Twisted

Challenge accepted, as long as you do it on a toon with a similar amount of spBig smile

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Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#14 - 2013-03-18 22:22:00 UTC
If the Forums are any indication, the Moa wins hands down. The Thorax pilot will be too busy to react while they chat in their corp channel asking whether everyone agrees that the Moa is the ugliest ship in Eve.

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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#15 - 2013-03-18 23:44:23 UTC
Comparing "tradition" fits. Mao is slow but has more dps and more ehp and resistances (key in RR fleet). Rax is faster and generally has dual webs in solo/small scale fit.

Heads up, Moa is probably going to win however a rax has a significant speed advantage which should allow for escape at any time. The rax also has a much broader target selection, which includes the majority of cruisers, and almost all frigs.

In the end it comes down to the situation in which you would be interested in flying them. Rax is much better for solo, Moa is imo, much better for fleets. The Shield Rax has it's merits however again, Moa is probably just a better shield/blaster platform.
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#16 - 2013-03-19 03:31:00 UTC
Personally Rax is better, but something about the Moa. Like and fly them both Smile
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#17 - 2013-03-19 05:26:04 UTC
Bridgette d'Iberville wrote:
If the Forums are any indication, the Moa wins hands down. The Thorax pilot will be too busy to react while they chat in their corp channel asking whether everyone agrees that the Moa is the ugliest ship in Eve.

And then everybody promptly states that despite the ugliness CCP should never change the hull because it's a chicken doing a drop kick, or a dinosaur with a briefcase, or something of the sort.
Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#18 - 2013-03-19 11:06:50 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Comparing "tradition" fits. Mao is slow but has more dps and more ehp and resistances (key in RR fleet). Rax is faster and generally has dual webs in solo/small scale fit.

Heads up, Moa is probably going to win however a rax has a significant speed advantage which should allow for escape at any time. The rax also has a much broader target selection, which includes the majority of cruisers, and almost all frigs.

In the end it comes down to the situation in which you would be interested in flying them. Rax is much better for solo, Moa is imo, much better for fleets. The Shield Rax has it's merits however again, Moa is probably just a better shield/blaster platform.



Thanks for that, i'd have to agree.

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Frank Doberman
7th Church of the Apocalyptic Lawnmower
#19 - 2013-03-19 22:02:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Frank Doberman
Goldensaver wrote:
or a dinosaur with a briefcase.


Thankyou.

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Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-03-19 22:50:34 UTC
The Thorax pilot that snuck in a Vigilant instead.
"Oh sorry bro, I just saw the hull and fitted everything without looking at the ship name/stats/type/pricetag/color."
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