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Gallente Drone Ship Lineup
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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-03-18 09:54:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Omnathious Deninard
I will be brief, I was thinking the other day about the new AI and drones, and began to wonder how it would affect game play if the Gallente drone line up was geared more toward the Support role.
The ships would not RR as well as other support ships but would have a drone damage and HP buff.
Affected ships from such a change would be

Tristan would become a missile ship? or a rail gun ship
Navitas would gain a drone bonus and the bandwidth and drone bay that the Tristan had.
Algos not sure where to go here
Vexor gain optimum range for hybrid and go down to 50mbps 100m3 drone bay
Exequror gain drone bonus 75mbps and 125m3 drone bay
Oneiros gain drone bonus and 125mbps and 250m3 drone bay
Myrmidon gain RR bonus
Eos gain RR bonuses
Dominix gain RR bonus
Sin Gain RR bonus

*Disclaimer*
This is just a thought I had and under no means feel that drone ships are underpowered.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2013-03-18 10:36:01 UTC
Yeah drone ships totally need EHP and damage buff :DDD

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#3 - 2013-03-18 10:56:16 UTC
IDK ... not really sure where you're going with this TBH... but I haven't really played so much with the "fixed" drone boats.

I did like the idea (elsewhere on the forums here) that the drone bay can rep drones (via timer or module, or hell just nanite paste)...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-03-18 11:08:00 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
IDK ... not really sure where you're going with this TBH... but I haven't really played so much with the "fixed" drone boats.

I did like the idea (elsewhere on the forums here) that the drone bay can rep drones (via timer or module, or hell just nanite paste)...

Amarr drone ships are e-war and drones, this idea would make Gallente drone ships remote assistance and drones.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#5 - 2013-03-18 11:09:25 UTC
Why can't they stay like they are?

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-18 11:13:07 UTC
Roime wrote:
Why can't they stay like they are?

I like them as they are, this was an thought I had and figured there was no reason not to bring it into discussion.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Zella Polaris
Pitchfork Uprising Holdings
#7 - 2013-03-18 11:50:23 UTC
Current logistics drones feel useless.

Mining drones are relatively useless.

EWAR drones need tech2 variants.

All-in-all I'm for a non-combat drone buff-a-thon.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#8 - 2013-03-18 12:22:24 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
IDK ... not really sure where you're going with this TBH... but I haven't really played so much with the "fixed" drone boats.

I did like the idea (elsewhere on the forums here) that the drone bay can rep drones (via timer or module, or hell just nanite paste)...

Amarr drone ships are e-war and drones, this idea would make Gallente drone ships remote assistance and drones.



So damps and the like? or do you mean RR?

Damps, rebos, etc -- yes, this could make for the things used more (not that they're NOT used ... but it seems they're under-used compared to other things).

RR -- not so much, we already have that with other vessels (many of which were the leaders in dronebay for that "class" amongst the empires anyway).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-03-18 12:28:47 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
IDK ... not really sure where you're going with this TBH... but I haven't really played so much with the "fixed" drone boats.

I did like the idea (elsewhere on the forums here) that the drone bay can rep drones (via timer or module, or hell just nanite paste)...

Amarr drone ships are e-war and drones, this idea would make Gallente drone ships remote assistance and drones.



So damps and the like? or do you mean RR?

Damps, rebos, etc -- yes, this could make for the things used more (not that they're NOT used ... but it seems they're under-used compared to other things).

RR -- not so much, we already have that with other vessels (many of which were the leaders in dronebay for that "class" amongst the empires anyway).

I mean RR, use the Thanatos as a guide. Adjust the modules for each size of ship.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-03-18 12:45:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Omnathious Deninard
I will update the OP when I have access to a computer. Then it may be less confusion of what the idea is.
Edit: OP updated

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
#11 - 2013-03-18 15:46:25 UTC
Gallente combat doctrine is drones and guns. It's a good fit. If I was to change anything (and I would) it would be to move the Drone Damage Augmentor module to the mid slots so it could compete with Omnidirection Tracking Links and Drone Navigation computers for space.

A further line of drone augmenting modules to improve the performance of drones mining and ewar functions that also competed for midslot space would be good too---allowing drone ships to project their ewar the same way they project their damage, with the same trade offs. Rebalancing the ewar drones to their proper effectiveness would be good too. If they wanted to keep droneship strength with flexability, they could just make the DDA augment all those drone functions, but again, make it compete with midslot space like the other drone modules.

All that said, I too would love to see the drone ships move away from gun bonuses because it's effectivly a split weapon bonus. RR, especially the healthy range bonuses the logi ships enjoy, would be a good second bonus to drone platforms, allowing them to feild their drones and keep them out under fire. I really would as well love to see a true drone DPS platform that got something like the drone tracking bonus of the Tristan on top of the normal 10% HP/Damage bonus the other drone ships get. If we are going to lose slots to them, I'd like to see all drone bonused ships get a role bonus or something that repaired drones in the dronebay. If the new deal is we have to put them out and pull them in constantly, they need to survive that and not ablate out of existance to the tune of a few million ISK per mission. It's not every mission, but it's enough to keep me from flying my favorite space potato.