EVE General Discussion

I'd throw $20 at a WiS kickstarter, but that's about it.

You all realize that WIS is already out.. DUST??

Houm. To keep it simple, let's consider 400.000 subs x 15 usd/sub/month =72 million USD/year (factors subs worth less than 15 usd, PLEX trade and the chinese and japanese subscribers)

Cloud Imperium Games is developing Star Citizen, whose funds are a bit short of 8.4 million USD, and that's going to be spent developing an AAA game in 2 years.

Of course, CIG is not running the most powerful server in industry and so and so. CCP's operational expenses are obviously higher than a game in development. Also, there is some "production magic", aka using an off the shelve engine and hiring a 3rd party with ample expertise to do the hard work (no need to reinvent the wheel), so CIG can stay small and yet afford the manpower needed for an AAA title. Having in charge guy like Chris Roberts doesn't hurt, neither.

But the point is that a whole AAA game costs less than two months of CCP's income.

If CCP can't undertake that kind of effort, well, sure they have their reasons. All in all they're developing three games on a single income source. Obviously I feel they're cheating us by developing WoD in a way that can't be used in EVE, which means that EVE is not planned to get any avatar content in any scheduled time, but for some reason CCP hasn't said that.

Avatars are the mother of all half-assed features abandoned for years to come until further iteration -and they've established a record for being the first featureless feature ever implemented in EVE.

It's a pity and a shame, but it's the way it is.

I have no doubt we will see it worked on down the road. I personally think CCP took a look at the state of the game, their plans for dust and realized its a bit to soon to start working on it again.

First get dust up and running. This gets you many more players, some actual avatar gameplay, and some great experience with avatars.

We know that their plans are to keep improving the integration between DUST and EVE, and eventual avatar interactions would be a natural step (not a first step, or even second, but an eventual one). So if their avatar goals consider both games then they really are waiting for DUST to get rolling, and for the interactions between the games to become deep enough to need/warrant a form of DUST/EVE avatar interaction.

Till they are ready for that step were going to be left cooling our heels in our quarters.

You just made it pretty clear that you didn't even bother to read the whole thread subject line, let alone the OP's post.

OP is asking for CCP to allow players who want WIS, to raise funds to hire new devs, just for the WIS project. Now if you care to argue and say that you DID read the full subject line, and you DID read the entire post, it just proves that you couldn't read more than 3 words without immediately forming an (incorrect) opinion.

Your post. I fixed it. You are welcome.

if WiS gets implemented I want my suicide smartbomb vest so I can clear out some jita trade alts :P

Shooting in Space = EVE
Shooting on Sand = DUST514
Shooting on Stations = Future of WiS?

I would be ready to pay full game price for WIS expansion if it was sold in stores.

I think there should be poll that asks how many people are ready to do the same.

WiS is like the inbred cousin that rich people hide in the attic. A twisted parady of itself. A Cthuthluesc spawn of a feature.

IMHO I think they are waiting to bring out WoD before they work on it again. Thats if WoD has the same technology any more. If you haven't noticed they've been doing a lot of hiring recently for WoD related Devs