EVE General Discussion

They could banhammer it at any time pointing to the EULA, chapter 6 paragraph 3.
Programs like ISBoxer are a violation of it.

So far they have just not taken any action against it.

Have they ever explicitly stated that it is within the rules and EULA?

You say that as if multi-boxing being banned is a bad thing, hell, even Blizzard have just stopped it working in WoW.

Do you think multiboxing being banned would be a good thing? I know very few people who have been playing this game for a long time who do not have at least two accounts...

There is quite a bit of difference between multi-boxing and having multiple accounts. That said, i think one of your first responses was the correct one, that you'll only get banned if you have the bot extension from ISBoxer.

I think that's fine...perhaps you aren't aware that many ppl will pvp with their friends in low/null but carebear by themselves in high sec with alts for the isk they need to pvp.

Hi Guys,

I've trimmed this thread slightly.

As CCP Eterne has stated, they are still discussing this internally and that your feedback is appreciated; so please leave feedback and not turn this into another big argument about whether or not its right or wrong.

This has consistently led to arguments and trolling.

Now's your time to make your points constructively, so please do so without resorting to attacking each other about it!

Thanks.

Greetings! Disclosure: I wrote ISBoxer.

Lelouch edited that post a month ago! People are just noticing now because CCP has started specifically targeting various bots with detection mechanisms. Some people who use bots also happen to use ISBoxer, and naturally anyone who is caught red handed with their cheating is going to try to pretend they were just using ISBoxer and no hacks.

If they meant to ban ISBoxer, then why would they not just say that in one of the many multiboxing threads since the edit? Probably because they are not specifically banning for ISBoxer. They are banning for bots; if you're worried about the changes, the solution is simple: STOP BOTTING/HACKING. (And that has nothing to do with ISBoxer...)

Another thing to remember is that back in 2008 or so with World of Warcraft, Blizzard started detecting and banning bots, similar to what CCP is currently doing. Through discussions with Blizzard at the time, they basically agreed that they could work on the bots without banning Inner Space, and they would much rather have multiboxers than botters -- wouldn't you? And, frankly, there's a lot more interest in multiboxing than botting, simply for the fact that people don't want their accounts banned.

Besides, people claiming to just be using ISBoxer when they're hacking/botting, are attacking ISBoxer. These are not my friends...

I don't have experience with it in this game (I've not seen someone doing it) but I HAVE seen it in other MMOs. Here's my newbie view on it:

If someone wants to run 17 accounts then by all means go ahead, as long as he controls those 17 accounts in person. The second you automate it (and ISBoxer does automate, it relays your input to other accounts) is where it's just wrong. It breaks immersion to see 6 Mages run around doing the exact same thing as if they were radio controlled, it looks wrong, it feels wrong and it is wrong. In an MMO it's kinda backwards to allow ways of playing that exclude the need for others and while that could also extend to using more than one account at least then the player has to divide his attention between them meaning there's a disadvantage to it.

A company that allows stuff like ISBoxer is effectively stating they're ok with lowering the quality of their game towards "real" players, just like botting in that respect.

You probably should read the EULA Section 6 A: