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Help in a wormhole c4
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HoogaStank SHOSHO
Zima Corp
Legion of xXDEATHXx
#1 - 2013-03-15 07:06:43 UTC
Hey everyone
I am anther new eve player that is intrested in worm holes.
I found a great worm hole that is a c4 and i got everything set up in there.
I have a mate in the wh but he is struggling to find an good exit out of the worm hole and if any one is trust worthy and is willing to help us to find a exit please i need to find a exit to high sec before saturday .contact me
we are also looking for a trust worthy corp to join us in the worm hole if you are intrested let me know thanks in advance
Sushi Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-03-15 07:19:36 UTC
There are 505 c4 wormholes. The chances of someone reading these forums and actually being connected to that system is low.

Source: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/List_of_All_W-Space_Systems

Advice? I would suggest that your friend to get scanning. Take any k-space entrance possible.

Hint: No direct K-space to C4s.

Good luck!

The Guns of Knowledge 
HoogaStank SHOSHO
Zima Corp
Legion of xXDEATHXx
#3 - 2013-03-15 07:34:27 UTC
Hey,Thanks for the response.
I guess we have to just find a exit so we can get more ships and ppl in if a new worm hole is activated what is the life span and how do you determine the life span of that hole.
thanks
IgnasS
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-03-15 07:45:25 UTC  |  Edited by: IgnasS
You most certainly will not find an exit from C4 to low/null/hi sec, although its possible that you will have those connections at some point. Your scanner should go through your static chain and find a connection to k-space. And please read a guide about wormholes, you just don't imagine how much you don't know yet, here's the link : http://fiercewebs.com/arcdragon/joomla/
Keno Skir
#5 - 2013-03-15 12:16:57 UTC
Oh for god sake lol.

Go read MUCH MUCH more about wormholes before you try to move into one.

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Ethan Revenant
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#6 - 2013-03-15 12:52:54 UTC
This may help you get started: http://www.wormholefundamentals.com/

There are a lot of resources out there that will teach you about wormhole lifespans and mass limits. Scanning you will have to learn on your own, though there are a few tutorials out there for that too.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#7 - 2013-03-15 14:17:27 UTC
IgnasS wrote:
You most certainly will not find an exit from C4 to low/null/hi sec, although its possible that you will have those connections at some point.


No you won't.

Also, need an exit by Saturday? I wonder why that is... Twisted

http://www.wormholes.info
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#8 - 2013-03-15 14:28:41 UTC
Nathan Jameson wrote:
IgnasS wrote:
You most certainly will not find an exit from C4 to low/null/hi sec, although its possible that you will have those connections at some point.


No you won't.

Also, need an exit by Saturday? I wonder why that is... Twisted



I've always been curious as to if anyone knows if O128 from k-space to C4s is live on TQ or not - given that even assuming its spawned from the k-space side the chances are you could scan 24x7 for ~500 days before seeing one and then taking into account the number of k-space systems they could spawn in and how few of them there supposedly are the chances of someone actually spawning the k162 side is tiny. (Granted its somewhat academic given how small a chance of one happening is even if they are live). When I've asked devs about them I've had somewhat ambiguous responses.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#9 - 2013-03-15 14:36:30 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Nathan Jameson wrote:
IgnasS wrote:
You most certainly will not find an exit from C4 to low/null/hi sec, although its possible that you will have those connections at some point.


No you won't.

Also, need an exit by Saturday? I wonder why that is... Twisted



I've always been curious as to if anyone knows if O128 from k-space to C4s is live on TQ or not - given that even assuming its spawned from the k-space side the chances are you could scan 24x7 for ~500 days before seeing one and then taking into account the number of k-space systems they could spawn in and how few of them there supposedly are the chances of someone actually spawning the k162 side is tiny. (Granted its somewhat academic given how small a chance of one happening is even if they are live). When I've asked devs about them I've had somewhat ambiguous responses.


There's also a connection that would allow a titan through on the database. That one is definitely not live. I lived in a C4 for over two years, and there was not a connection to k-space once in that time.

http://www.wormholes.info
Matt Ellis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-03-15 15:24:39 UTC
Nathan Jameson wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Nathan Jameson wrote:
IgnasS wrote:
You most certainly will not find an exit from C4 to low/null/hi sec, although its possible that you will have those connections at some point.


No you won't.

Also, need an exit by Saturday? I wonder why that is... Twisted



I've always been curious as to if anyone knows if O128 from k-space to C4s is live on TQ or not - given that even assuming its spawned from the k-space side the chances are you could scan 24x7 for ~500 days before seeing one and then taking into account the number of k-space systems they could spawn in and how few of them there supposedly are the chances of someone actually spawning the k162 side is tiny. (Granted its somewhat academic given how small a chance of one happening is even if they are live). When I've asked devs about them I've had somewhat ambiguous responses.


There's also a connection that would allow a titan through on the database. That one is definitely not live. I lived in a C4 for over two years, and there was not a connection to k-space once in that time.


Same here. Lived in C4s for a while now, and no K-space connections for me... Kinda makes logistics a pain, but hey, you live with it.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-03-15 15:57:58 UTC
HoogaStank SHOSHO wrote:
Hey everyone
I am anther new eve player that is intrested in worm holes.
I found a great worm hole that is a c4 and i got everything set up in there.
I have a mate in the wh but he is struggling to find an good exit out of the worm hole and if any one is trust worthy and is willing to help us to find a exit please i need to find a exit to high sec before saturday .contact me
we are also looking for a trust worthy corp to join us in the worm hole if you are intrested let me know thanks in advance



Honestly I'm kind of confused. Can your mate in the WH scan? Or is he stuck without probes?

If he can scan, then its just a matter of scan scan scan. What kind of WH static is it?
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#12 - 2013-03-15 16:00:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Nathan Jameson wrote:


There's also a connection that would allow a titan through on the database. That one is definitely not live. I lived in a C4 for over two years, and there was not a connection to k-space once in that time.


IIRC thats a low/null to low/null connection tho, there are no 1800 mass k-space to w-space links - ages back on SISI a dev fudged one to C5 space from null to test what happened but I've never gotten a straight answer on O128s - end of the say it doesn't really make much odds as they'd be extremely rare even if they were live.

EDIT: Oops just noticed its one of the mass regen wormholes - dunno how I missed that before, those aren't live on TQ.
Orlacc
#13 - 2013-03-15 16:33:12 UTC
So you are new. You set up inside a WH without the ability to find your own way out. I am afraid this may not end well.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Euthanasia Anneto
Embers Children
#14 - 2013-03-15 16:36:07 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Oh for god sake lol.

Go read MUCH MUCH more about wormholes before you try to move into one.

+1 on that...
Every human pilot should at least having 1 scanning toon and certainly for C4's.

wish I had a C2 with static c4 so I could teach some lessons there

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dark dreamur
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-03-15 17:45:29 UTC
remind me again how mush fuel did you say you had left?
Akinesis
Black Rose Inc.
Black Rose.
#16 - 2013-03-15 18:35:19 UTC
Struggling.... to.... find.... sympathy....

One of two things are happening here:

You moved into a C4 with zero research and experience with Wormholes, and without even realising that they will never have a connection to K-Space

Or

Troll

I really want believe troll, otherwise you have thrown yourself right into the deep and I do not believe this will end positive for you. Especially if you are inviting 'trustworthy' people to join your Corp or for other Corps to join your WH, and annoucning how much fuel you have left.

Please look into joining an established WH Corp (C2/C3) or start yourself off in a C1 if you are adament on setting up as you are. But, hey, it's your subscription.

But, seriously, good luck all the same. You have to 'scan scan scan' as mentioned before. Expect to have to travel through 3-6 other wormholes before you find a stable empire exit, let alone HS. It depends how much Bob likes you.
Domoso
Planisphere Salvage
#17 - 2013-03-15 18:45:03 UTC
HoogaStank SHOSHO wrote:
Hey everyone
I am anther new eve player that is intrested in worm holes.
I found a great worm hole that is a c4 and i got everything set up in there.
I have a mate in the wh but he is struggling to find an good exit out of the worm hole and if any one is trust worthy and is willing to help us to find a exit please i need to find a exit to high sec before saturday .contact me
we are also looking for a trust worthy corp to join us in the worm hole if you are intrested let me know thanks in advance



First, if you really want help, post the j-sig of the system you're in. Second, go to wormnav and look for the locator feature. It may be that your friend's skills are not adequate to the task. If it takes him 15 minutes to find a sig then I think you're in deep doodoo. Maybe now is the time to put your characters to sleep and focus training on Astrometrics, Rangefinding, Pinpointing and Acquisition. Get Astrometrics to level 4 quick. Then Acquisition to level 4. Rangefinding and pinpointing to level 3. Ideally, you want them all level 4 or higher. Then log back in and find your exit. Seriously, takes me 15 minutes to probe a system if there are a shtton of sigs.

If that fails you can always self-destruct taking the express back to hs. Good luck!
HoogaStank SHOSHO
Zima Corp
Legion of xXDEATHXx
#18 - 2013-03-19 07:34:15 UTC
Hey guys thanks for the replays...
We been scanning and scanning finding wormhole to wormhole nothing to highsec yet but we will find a exit with some patents
it is static to c5 and c2 as far as i know we went through 8 worms holes nothing to high sec yet and we did that in a hour so we will get right here is the wormhole j165943


Thanks for the advice and i have taken it thanks
Pearlescent Blue
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-03-19 08:34:35 UTC
HoogaStank SHOSHO wrote:
Hey guys thanks for the replays...
We been scanning and scanning finding wormhole to wormhole nothing to highsec yet but we will find a exit with some patents
it is static to c5 and c2 as far as i know we went through 8 worms holes nothing to high sec yet and we did that in a hour so we will get right here is the wormhole j165943


Thanks for the advice and i have taken it thanks


mmmhh..... well my advice is, use the same method you used to get into your C4, to get out again. So you know how to scan apparently. If you have a static C5 and C2 according to what you wrote above. A C2 has almost always a high sec exit. So keep looking in that C2 for high sec exit. Living in a C4 myself before, the logistic is abitch to handle in a C4 if you dont have enough people that help with scanning etc.

Anyway, but I am not too sure based on your questions here if you are ready for a C4. As suggested already might need to do a little more reading on Wormholes before moving into a C4 with no empire exits. If you havent known that already but C4 never have K-space exits. You need to find your chain out to K-Space again.

Again if you are certain you have a static C2 connection then its not hard to find a K-space exit, just be careful becuase most C2 are occupied and moving stuff in and out will attract attention. So having a scout is a must in womrholes if you want to move stuff savely.

Not sure if that helps you at all but that are my 2cents.


P.Blue
Vjorn Angannon
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#20 - 2013-03-19 09:26:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Vjorn Angannon
First off, read the two guides that are stickied at the top of the Wormholes Forum; while one is a bit dated, both are chock-full of very useful information.

C4's only have 1 (one) static....period. K162 is NOT a static; those are in-bound connections....meaning someone scanned that wormhole out, warped (or initiated warp) to it......and could very well be inside watching you at this very moment!

Strongly recommend you get yourself setup using wormnav. takes just a minute or so to set up in your in-game browser. Plus, there are instructions in there to help you with various sig sizes and such, as well as telling you what the static connection is for each w-system you are in.

Lastly, do realize that the unknown is a harsh place, filled with both rabbits and wolves. At some point the wolves will find you. If (ahem, WHEN) you get ganked, my advice is to not whine about it, but instead treat that experience as lesson learned. After waking up in high sec, try convo'ing the group, and maturely ask them wtf just happened?!?!?! hehehe. most times if you are nice about it, folks will help you out....perhaps even get you back into your home...

Anyways, best of luck....always keep a scout out and mash the DS button.

Fly it like you stole it!

Edit: Sometimes BOB (THE wormhole God) is fickle.....

yesterday had a chain that looked like:

H>C5>C2>NS
................|>C5>C3>NS
....................|........|>LS (15to HS)
....................|>NS
....................|>LS............|>C5
....................|>C4>C4>C5>C6
....................|>NS>C5>C3>NS
.........................................|>NS

but today;

H>C5>C3>HS

[shrugs] that is daily life in the unknown.
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